Tubby to DePaul?

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I've heard some inside rumblings that Tubby might be considering a look at the DePaul job. Apparently, from the article, DePaul is offering some huge monitary inscentives to get their program back on the map.
Apparent Reasons Why He will leave:
- It is closer to home
- Better basketball tradition with better fan/academic support
- Due to academic and legal frustrations at the U of MN
- This team likely will not be an NCAA team for some years

I put the reliability of the information at 30% but it might make some sense, thus could be true.
 

More like a senior moment pal. I'll give you 25-1 odds for $100 bucks. In?
 


Missed-layup said:
I've heard some inside rumblings that Tubby might be considering a look at the DePaul job.
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Excuse me for questioning you, but how in the Lord's name do you have "inside" connections to even hear about such "rumblings?"

Second of all, DePaul? Honestly? DEPAUL?

The reasons you list are completely ridiculous..."close to home?" Saying Chicago is closer than Minneapolis to Tubby's home in Maryland is like saying Ohio State is closer than Penn State to Los Angeles...it's still halfway across the country, and about a 40 min difference in flight time.

Have you SEEN the fan/academic support at DePaul? Their home games make a MIAC game look crowded. Lastly, in regards to "tourney team," I can PROMISE you that we'll be a tourney team years before DePaul.

In all honesty, I'll assume you are trolling and posted this thread in jest, because you honestly cannot be serious?
 

I'm not into the internet "Lingo", so can you please tell me what a "troll" is?

I apologize, I have never worked for the Geek Squad nor was I ever into Dungeons and Dragons, so forgive my ignorance. I'm just trying to contribute some information to this blog.
 


Missed-layup said:
I'm just trying to contribute some information to this blog.
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I guess we can all "contribute" some info as well...I've heard "inside rumblings" that Tubby is considering moving to Vegas to become a show girl because it would offer him financial stability, he'd have adoring fan support, and he wouldn't face "academic and legal frustrations" there.

FYI, here's the definition of a Troll, per Wikipedia: "In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."
 

This message is hidden because Missed-layup is on your ignore list.

This is what I see when I click on this link. If the rest of you are smart, this is what you'll see too after you take 10 seconds to ignore the troll. After that's done, stop feeding him.
 

Laughable. DePaul should take a flier on Webster and hire him. He knows how to recruit the Chicago area. Another name I'd throw out there is Jerrance Howard. That job isn't appealing with the beast that is the Big East so why not go with a young guy, with a good coaching pedigree, who knows Chicago and can recruit?
 

My inside source is someone in the Athletic department at DePaul. They heard "rumors" today that Depaul is trying to return to the glory days of the Ray Meyer era when Basketball was king around DePaul in the 1970s-1980s. Again, I put the accuracy of this at 30%, so take it for what it is worth. Apparently, what was being discussed was a 4 year deal with Tubby then Saul takes over when Tubby retires as coach after 4 years. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm not a troll as it probably is not accurate.

Lately DePaul has been bad, but DePaul has a rich tradition of BBall:

Career Scoring
Player (Seasons) Pts.
1. Mark Aguirre (1978-81)....................................2,182
2. David Booth (1988-92).....................................1,933
3. Dave Corzine (1974-78)...................................1,896
4. George Mikan (1942-46)..................................1,870
5. Tom Kleinschmidt (1991-95).............................1,837
6. Stephen Howard (1988-92)..............................1,691
7. Dallas Comegys (1983-87)...............................1,555
8. Terry Davis (1989-93).......................................1,534
9. Sammy Meija (2003-07)...................................1,494
10. Curtis Watkins (1975-79)..................................1,463
Terry Cummings
Tyrone Corbin
 



Missed-layup said:
My inside source is someone in the Athletic department at DePaul. They heard "rumors" today that Depaul is trying to return to the glory days of the Ray Meyer era when Basketball was king around DePaul in the 1970s-1980s. Again, I put the accuracy of this at 30%, so take it for what it is worth. Apparently, what was being discussed was a 4 year deal with Tubby then Saul takes over when Tubby retires as coach after 4 years. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm not a troll as it probably is not accurate.

Lately DePaul has been bad, but DePaul has a rich tradition of BBall:

Career Scoring
Player (Seasons) Pts.
1. Mark Aguirre (1978-81)....................................2,182
2. David Booth (1988-92).....................................1,933
3. Dave Corzine (1974-78)...................................1,896
4. George Mikan (1942-46)..................................1,870
5. Tom Kleinschmidt (1991-95).............................1,837
6. Stephen Howard (1988-92)..............................1,691
7. Dallas Comegys (1983-87)...............................1,555
8. Terry Davis (1989-93).......................................1,534
9. Sammy Meija (2003-07)...................................1,494
10. Curtis Watkins (1975-79)..................................1,463
Terry Cummings
Tyrone Corbin
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Penn has a rich tradition of basketball but Tubby Smith isn't going there either. The success of DePaul is directly correlated by how good you recruit Chicago. You keep some of that talent home and have a halfway decent x's and o's guy? You might have a shot at the NCAA's playing in the Big East.

You keep ALL that talent there, the one's that end up at Marquette, Illinois, etc?, and you got a guy that can coach? You've got a better shot at finishing middle of the pack and maybe getting up there at the top eventually-and then you lose that guy to a bigger school. Why do you think St. John's has turned into a sinkhole lately? They can't keep the elite talent at home anymore and the grind that is the Big East just wears you down.
 

The Truth said:
Penn has a rich tradition of basketball but Tubby Smith isn't going there either. The success of DePaul is directly correlated by how good you recruit Chicago. You keep some of that talent home and have a halfway decent x's and o's guy? You might have a shot at the NCAA's playing in the Big East.

You keep ALL that talent there, the one's that end up at Marquette, Illinois, etc?, and you got a guy that can coach? You've got a better shot at finishing middle of the pack and maybe getting up there at the top eventually-and then you lose that guy to a bigger school. Why do you think St. John's has turned into a sinkhole lately? They can't keep the elite talent at home anymore and the grind that is the Big East just wears you down.
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You make great points about coaching in the Big East. I am not debating that nor am I an expert on Big East Basketball. I assume what you say is true and Tubby has done a good job in keeping the local kids at MN so I assume DePaul feels he can do the same with the Chicago kids. Plus, Tubby has shown to be great at finding mediocre talent and turning them into 20win per season teams. Again, it probably is just a false rumor, I just passed it along and now I feel like I have to defend it. I hope it is not true, I want Tubby to stay.
 


Why is that?

I have made 2 threads in my short time here.
1. I predicted the rest of the gophers season
2. I shared the rumor I heard.

- What is wrong with that? Will I be fired off the site or something? I'm just an insider who wants the gophers to win it all and want to share whatever limited knowledge I have.
 



Missed-layup said:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...ivision-i-college-basketball-coaching-changes

I've heard some inside rumblings that Tubby might be considering a look at the DePaul job. Apparently, from the article, DePaul is offering some huge monitary inscentives to get their program back on the map.
Apparent Reasons Why He will leave:
- It is closer to home
- Better basketball tradition with better fan/academic support
- Due to academic and legal frustrations at the U of MN
- This team likely will not be an NCAA team for some years

I put the reliability of the information at 30% but it might make some sense, thus could be true.
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I have never laughed so hard in my entire life, I'll bet my mortgage Tubby doesn't go to Depaul! You mean to tell me he is going to leave the "U" in Minneapolis (in a major sports market) after having a top 20 recruiting class with a legit shot at the #5 high school prospect in the nation next year in Cory Joseph, coaching in the Big Ten, for a 7-10 DePaul squad who is the piss on of the Big East!??? You are a complete moron for posting this, anyone who thinks Tubby would give this thought more than 2 seconds is off their rocker....you have got to be kidding me! Think logincally for 2 seconds!
 

Where do these terrible posters come from? And how do we send them back? 3 of your 4 "apparent reasons" why Tubby Smith will leave are laughably bad. The only one that even makes some logical sense is Tubby being frustrated with the U's handling of legal situations.
 

"I have never laughed so hard in my entire life, I'll bet my mortgage Tubby doesn't go to Depaul! You mean to tell me he is going to leave the "U" in Minneapolis (in a major sports market) after having a top 20 recruiting class with a legit shot at the #5 high school prospect in the nation next year in Cory Joseph, coaching in the Big Ten, for a 7-10 DePaul squad who is the piss on of the Big East!??? You are a complete moron for posting this, anyone who thinks Tubby would give this thought more than 2 seconds is off their rocker....you have got to be kidding me! Think logincally for 2 seconds!"

Look, I'm sure if I would have posted that Tubby was leaving KY to come to MN the same reaction would have been had by those left who liked him at KY. As for Joseph, I don't know anything about that situation in relation to Tubby's leaving. Money talks and a solid BBall school is calling, you never know. Its happened hundreds of times before and it fits Tubby's modus operandi, to use one of my law school terms. Maybe someone on here has some contacts within the U or at DePaul who know more then my insiders do about the situation and can confirm or deny this rumor.
 

Missed-layup said:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...ivision-i-college-basketball-coaching-changes

I've heard some inside rumblings that Tubby might be considering a look at the DePaul job. Apparently, from the article, DePaul is offering some huge monitary inscentives to get their program back on the map.
Apparent Reasons Why He will leave:
- It is closer to home
- Better basketball tradition with better fan/academic support
- Due to academic and legal frustrations at the U of MN
- This team likely will not be an NCAA team for some years

I put the reliability of the information at 30% but it might make some sense, thus could be true.
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DePaul won't even be offering their next coach $1 million per season. Their facilities are terrible. And their academics are tougher than most.

And the last reason (not NCAA team for years) is appealing to NO coach, least of all Tubby.

Those rumors are utterly absurd.
 

The Truth said:
Laughable. DePaul should take a flier on Webster and hire him. He knows how to recruit the Chicago area. Another name I'd throw out there is Jerrance Howard. That job isn't appealing with the beast that is the Big East so why not go with a young guy, with a good coaching pedigree, who knows Chicago and can recruit?
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Webster has no experience as HC. Nor does Howard. DePaul wants experienced HC.
 

Missed-layup said:
My inside source is someone in the Athletic department at DePaul. They heard "rumors" today that Depaul is trying to return to the glory days of the Ray Meyer era when Basketball was king around DePaul in the 1970s-1980s. Again, I put the accuracy of this at 30%, so take it for what it is worth. Apparently, what was being discussed was a 4 year deal with Tubby then Saul takes over when Tubby retires as coach after 4 years. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm not a troll as it probably is not accurate.

Lately DePaul has been bad, but DePaul has a rich tradition of BBall:

Career Scoring
Player (Seasons) Pts.
1. Mark Aguirre (1978-81)....................................2,182
2. David Booth (1988-92).....................................1,933
3. Dave Corzine (1974-78)...................................1,896
4. George Mikan (1942-46)..................................1,870
5. Tom Kleinschmidt (1991-95).............................1,837
6. Stephen Howard (1988-92)..............................1,691
7. Dallas Comegys (1983-87)...............................1,555
8. Terry Davis (1989-93).......................................1,534
9. Sammy Meija (2003-07)...................................1,494
10. Curtis Watkins (1975-79)..................................1,463
Terry Cummings
Tyrone Corbin
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Typo. You said 30% accuracy. You meant 0% accuracy.
 

Missed-layup said:
You make great points about coaching in the Big East. I am not debating that nor am I an expert on Big East Basketball. I assume what you say is true and Tubby has done a good job in keeping the local kids at MN so I assume DePaul feels he can do the same with the Chicago kids. Plus, Tubby has shown to be great at finding mediocre talent and turning them into 20win per season teams. Again, it probably is just a false rumor, I just passed it along and now I feel like I have to defend it. I hope it is not true, I want Tubby to stay.
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Mediocre talent where?

At Georgia, he signed two straight Top 20 rated classes and had 20+ W both years.

At Kentucky, he signed Top 20 (or better) classes in 8 of 9 recruiting years and had 20+ W each year there.

At Minnesota, he has signed Top 20 classes both years and has 20+ W both years.

Mediocre talent where???
 

And the last reason (not NCAA team for years) is appealing to NO coach, least of all Tubby.

Those rumors are utterly absurd.
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Which is why we know this fool is a troll. Anyone who has read any recent news regarding Tubby and his feelings towards this job and Minneapolis would know this is complete BS. Only a troll would start a thread like this.

Please Missed-layup go back to whatever messageboard you crawled out from and stay there.
 

Friend Of Tubby said:
Webster has no experience as HC. Nor does Howard. DePaul wants experienced HC.
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Good luck with that then. They're not going to get anyone worth a damn considering the mess they have in regards to facilities, compensation and, most of all, their chances of winning in the Big East. Better to take a flier (which I pointed out and said zero about HC experience) on someone like Webster/Howard who are young, hungry, and know how to recruit (especially the talent rich Chicago area) than another castoff or retread.

What experienced HC is going to want to walk into that mess for what they're willing to pay?
 

Friend Of Tubby said:
Mediocre talent where?

At Georgia, he signed two straight Top 20 rated classes and had 20+ W both years.

At Kentucky, he signed Top 20 (or better) classes in 8 of 9 recruiting years and had 20+ W each year there.

At Minnesota, he has signed Top 20 classes both years and has 20+ W both years.

Mediocre talent where???
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Good Point, I might have used a bad choice of words. I was thinking about here at MN. None of his "people" have been anything other than average to slightly above average- Yet! Royce White and Mikbwekwe have yet to play so the jury is out on them. Recruiting classes don't necessarily equate to success, it depends how they play. Tubby has a great track record no doubt.
 

Missed-layup said:
Why is that?

I have made 2 threads in my short time here.
1. I predicted the rest of the gophers season
2. I shared the rumor I heard.

- What is wrong with that? Will I be fired off the site or something? I'm just an insider who wants the gophers to win it all and want to share whatever limited knowledge I have.
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Don't get mad at Glenn. He's just asking questions!
 

DePaul made a huge mistake. ...

moving to the Big East. If they're smart they'll get out and go back to Conference USA or perhaps the A-10. A-10 (much stronger than C-USA) probably out of the picture because it already has 14 teams.
 

Friend Of Tubby said:
Mediocre talent where?

At Georgia, he signed two straight Top 20 rated classes and had 20+ W both years.

At Kentucky, he signed Top 20 (or better) classes in 8 of 9 recruiting years and had 20+ W each year there.

At Minnesota, he has signed Top 20 classes both years and has 20+ W both years.

Mediocre talent where???
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It's not too hard to get to 20 wins when 60% of the victories are basically scrimmages for profit. Rodney Williams looked like a future lottery pick during the scrimmages for profit and now he looks like a freshman with some potential. Hard to say how much talent Tubby has brought in when the vast majority of games are that in name only.
 

Welcome to the Board Missed.

Here it is January already and this is the 1st Tubby leaving rumor of the season. Coaching rumors are definitely one of the many plusses of having Tubby as coach. The gossip is always a good sidelight to a season especially after a few disappointing losses. Not that rumors need a credibility factor at all but you clearly identified your rumor as having about 30% credibility. Let me open up our 30% new coach search by suggesting the name Tim Miles. Can we get him out of the mountains? :D

Just to add a little fuel to your 30% fire, last night on the Tubby Smith Show, Tubby said he doesn't think he has ever been involved in a season with so many distractions outside of basketball. He even sounded a bit wistful for a less distractive program. He definitely sounded like he would like to deal with basketball issues only and not have to deal with the increasing demand and distraction of problems unrelated to basketball. Maybe these distractions had a way of not showing up as much in Lexington. Would they be less of a factor in Chicago? Did he have a DePaul escape clause in his contract? ;)

Other things that come to mind as potential fuel for your 30% flame:

Has a sufficient amount of time transpired for DePaul to recover from the Joey Meyer era of basketball to take a chance on the future Saul Smith era?

Does Mayor Daley have better problem solving skills in addressing public relations 'distractions' than Mayor Rybak?

Does a private school have better academic tools available to it than a non-private school to address scholar/athlete 'distraction' issues?

Tubby seemed to enjoy his move up from Lexington to the Twin Cities. Is it possible he would also enjoy a move to an even larger city - one with with maybe broader shoulders, maybe a little more windy yet still warmer due to the effect of Lake Michigan?

How much of an impact would a return to a winning basketball program affect DePaul's endowment and how much could they afford to pay a new coach?

Here are a few top dollar figure amounts for endowments listed in Wikipedia for some Catholic Universities with big time Basketball (and football) programs:

Notre Dame ----- $ 5.5 billion
Boston College - $ 1.3 billion
Georgetown ----- $ 833 million
DePaul ------------ $ 407 million
Gonzaga --------- $ 150 million (Gonzaga bulletin estimate)

Tubby to DePaul?

30%, I don't know about that. I would say it is not unexpected for message board gossip on College basketball coaching moves though. Look out if Maryland loses 3 or 4 in a row?
 

depaul might want a big named coach but i think vince taylor could do big things there
 

Well after having read through this thread so far, I can honestly say one thing:

It's good for really long laugh.

Other than that, it's not worth much of anything.
 

Maybe Tubby's got his eye on Iowa too? I had a good laugh about this.
 

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