This offense sucks, plain and simple

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No one can argue that. You'd have to have never seen the game of football to not know that. They had 2 opportunities starting in Illinois territory to put the game away by going up 3 scores, (even with a field goal!!!) and they couldn't do it! Just imagine NE and WI. I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong, and I hope I get to do that, but I don't think so.

This offense does everything to make the game close. Does nothing to help the defense EVER! Leaves it up to the defense EVERY TIME. Can't go out and win it themselves, EVER!

Brutal


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Let's enjoy the win and pick this up on Monday.
 

Good enough to get the win today, good enough to get the win last week, good enough to get the win the week before that. That's the goal, right? Texas Tech's QB threw for 740 yards last week (literally) and lost.

Good work today offense, defense and special teams!

Go Gophers!!
 

Some Day...Is Coming! said:
No one can argue that. You'd have to have never seen the game of football to not know that. They had 2 opportunities starting in Illinois territory to put the game away by going up 3 scores, (even with a field goal!!!) and they couldn't do it! Just imagine NE and WI. I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong, and I hope I get to do that, but I don't think so.

This offense does everything to make the game close. Does nothing to help the defense EVER! Leaves it up to the defense EVERY TIME. Can't go out and win it themselves, EVER!

Brutal

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40 points brutal ?
 


Some Day...Is Coming! said:
No one can argue that. You'd have to have never seen the game of football to not know that. They had 2 opportunities starting in Illinois territory to put the game away by going up 3 scores, (even with a field goal!!!) and they couldn't do it! Just imagine NE and WI. I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong, and I hope I get to do that, but I don't think so.

This offense does everything to make the game close. Does nothing to help the defense EVER! Leaves it up to the defense EVERY TIME. Can't go out and win it themselves, EVER!

Brutal


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Guessing you didn't see any of the non-conference games.
 

Not complaining at the offense today they did a good job with what we have at QB ...
 

You're in luck, Texas Tech now plays TCU on ESPN2. You can watch all offense and no defense.
 

At least three good points - rushing attack/RB combination, limiting turnovers and good red zone scoring percentage.

I don't think we can complain too much on a day when (I think the commentator confirmed) we've scored our highest point total ever on the road in Illinois.
 



This offense is now averaging over 32 points per game, has scored at least 26 in 4 of the last 5 Big Ten Games and has scored over 30 in the last 3 games. That certainly does not "suck."
 

die hard gopher said:
This offense is now averaging over 32 points per game, has scored at least 26 in 4 of the last 5 Big Ten Games and has scored over 30 in the last 3 games. That certainly does not "suck."
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Suck is definitely not the right way to describe the offense but you do have to take opponents into account when looking at points per game. Our points per game should be up this year over last year because the teams we are playing in general or worse then what we faced last year.

That said I would say the rushing offense on this team is just fine, the passing offense still sucks and in a lot of ways seems to be regressing as the season goes on. As long as our offense can move the ball on the ground we will be just fine in most games. If we run into a game here where we fall behind or need big plays out of the passing game against a quality opponent we are in a lot of trouble.

Should be able to run on Purdue, real test will be those last three games as the quality of opponent will take a step up in class from what we have faced in the last 3.
 

Some Day...Is Coming! said:
No one can argue that. You'd have to have never seen the game of football to not know that. They had 2 opportunities starting in Illinois territory to put the game away by going up 3 scores, (even with a field goal!!!) and they couldn't do it! Just imagine NE and WI. I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong, and I hope I get to do that, but I don't think so.

This offense does everything to make the game close. Does nothing to help the defense EVER! Leaves it up to the defense EVERY TIME. Can't go out and win it themselves, EVER!

Brutal


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IMO, you suck, plain and simple. :blah::blah::blah:
 




S&P+ rankings from the other thread through last week. I added the defensive S&P+ of our future opponents below them. Compared to last year we've had a cakewalk Big Ten schedule. We are not a terrible offense but I think it is obvious we have some pretty large deficiencies. Could be worse...could be better.


Team Offense Defense Overall
Oregon State 97 67 88
Colorado State 46 84 61
Penn State 36 14 16
Iowa 66 34 42
Maryland 72 47 63
Rutgers 125 95 116
Illionis 99 68 85
Minnesota 68 25 39

Purdue 104
Nebraska 22
Northwestern 37
Wisconsin 5
 

Navin said:
:rolleyes:

Five rushing touchdowns in a B1G road win.
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The Claeys/Kill system obviously does not work at a BCS/B1G level. 37-35 overall, 18-27 B1G; 28-19, 13-15 the last 3-1/2 seasons. This will be 5 straight bowl seasons--the second time in history. Better defense than anything we've had in 40 years. Time to sh!tcan the whole thing. :rolleyes:
 



There are positive and negative people in this world. I don't know why some get so bent out of shape about it. For me it's hard to get too excited about wins over bad teams but i don't discount its still a W on the ledger.

Re the OP It's true that our passing scheme sucks. It's not true that our run game sucks. It's pretty amazing how well we're able to run facing as many plus defenses we see. Rod smith deserves a statue for his play this season.
 

Some Day...Is Coming! said:
This offense sucks, plain and simple

No one can argue that. You'd have to have never seen the game of football to not know that. They had 2 opportunities starting in Illinois territory to put the game away by going up 3 scores, (even with a field goal!!!) and they couldn't do it! Just imagine NE and WI. I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong, and I hope I get to do that, but I don't think so.

This offense does everything to make the game close. Does nothing to help the defense EVER! Leaves it up to the defense EVERY TIME. Can't go out and win it themselves, EVER!

Brutal

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I would argue that point, based on results. But as someone else already observed, your problem seems to be aesthetic rather than practical. You apparently wish for a more picturesque 38 offensive points than what we got today. I don't know what to say to you.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

everybody knows my name said:
I would argue that point, based on results. But as someone else already observed, your problem seems to be aesthetic rather than practical. You apparently wish for a more picturesque 38 offensive points than what we got today. I don't know what to say to you.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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It all boils down to spirals.
 

#2Gopher said:
I'm with Vandy. Why all the negative tones constantly from some people?
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Some people are more interested in seeing Claeys fired than they are in seeing the Gophers win.
 

To be fair, we amassed 283 yards today on 10/19 passing and 3.6 YPC vs a pretty average to bad defense. The turnovers and short fields were huge. Without the turnovers hard to believe we still march down and score 38.

We capitalized and that's the sign of a competent team. It doesn't mean we're a high flying offense but we did a good job today taking care of business. We need to get better if we want to get to the championship game. The defense is starting to play championship level football time for the offense to match it.
 

Iceland12 said:
Some people are more interested in seeing Claeys fired than they are in seeing the Gophers win.
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Really? I think people want to see a disciplined team playing competently on both sides of the ball. We all want Claeys to succeed. The OP was a little strident but it's balanced out by some of the other posters.
 

Pompous Elitist said:
We all want Claeys to succeed.
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There are many posters here who long ago decided they want Claeys fired, OP most definitely included. He'll probably be bitching and moaning and starting stupid threads if we win 10 or 11 games this year.
 

Pompous Elitist said:
Really? I think people want to see a disciplined team playing competently on both sides of the ball. We all want Claeys to succeed. The OP was a little strident but it's balanced out by some of the other posters.
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I agree with Iceland. the team could win out including an impressive NY6 bowl win and certain asshats here would call for Claeys to be fired because certain parts of this team don't pass the eye test.
 

Pompous Elitist said:
Really? I think people want to see a disciplined team playing competently on both sides of the ball. We all want Claeys to succeed. The OP was a little strident but it's balanced out by some of the other posters.
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Yes and it's not that unusual either. Fans of many teams who think they need a change in coaching want the team to lose because they feel that, in the long run, it would be better for their team.
 

dpodoll68 said:
There are many posters here who long ago decided they want Claeys fired, OP most definitely included. He'll probably be bitching and moaning and starting stupid threads if we win 10 or 11 games this year.
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I'll write the first check to build a statue of Claeys if we win 10 or 11 games. :cool:
 

Gophers7NatTitlesBadgers0 said:
I agree with Iceland. the team could win out including an impressive NY6 bowl win and certain asshats here would call for Claeys to be fired because certain parts of this team don't pass the eye test.
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Wrong. We've beaten some terrible teams and the jury is still out. If we win 2 of the last 3, everyone will be excited and on the bandwagon.
 

Ideally, the offense should be smart, energetic, inventive (not predictable), can both run and pass. QB can regularly hit 65%, is quick enough to escape a collapsing pocket and a good enough runner to occasionally do a designed QB run. Smith and Brooks would fit in perfectly, but we need more receivers + the above QB.
 

Iceland12 said:
Yes and it's not that unusual either. Fans of many teams who think they need a change in coaching want the team to lose because they feel that, in the long run, it would be better for their team.
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Let me expand on that. We were at a UCLA game in the Rose Bowl in 2002. Had great seats. A lot of people were sitting on the hands around us openly talking about how much they wanted Bob Toledo fired and how therefor, it wouldn't be so bad if they lost. Got real awkward because some of Toledo's relatives were in the stands near us. They were also very vocal in wanting him to stay. Didn't care either way but felt real sorry for those relatives.

Then go back to the last years of Wacker and Brewster. The A.D. had said that Wacker needed 5 wins to keep his job. He got 4. Hard to believe that zero Gopher Fans wanted him to only get those 4 wins.

Brewster? Who knows how many people wanted him out? There was plenty of people saying that they'd take a loss or two to make sure Tim wasn't coming back. Wouldn't even bet on whether those people were in the majority or not.

Now? I do not think that people who want the Gophers to lose "for the future" are in the majority or even that most of the whiners are in that camp. Just know that they are there.
 

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