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short ornery norwegian said:
So, the Gophers in hiring a DC need someone who will accept the salary that MN is willing to pay - and will be a good fit with Fleck. that narrows the field of candidates.
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isn’t this true of every coordinator hire in all of college football?

Needs to fit with head coach + accept the salary offered?
 

Elevenseven said:
Looks like the favs might be 2 guys PJ knows well. One is Carolina LB coach Ten Lebuka and Joe H from Rutgers. The Kansas ST DC is from Hammond WI and has Minnesota connections.
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The rumor I have heard is K state guy
 


Some guy said:
isn’t this true of every coordinator hire in all of college football?

Needs to fit with head coach + accept the salary offered?
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in general, yes. but the details matter.

at MN, that coordinator is coming to a school that is on the lower end of its conference for assistant coaching salaries, and would need to fit with a coach who has a very conservative coaching philosophy.

I think that makes it somewhat more difficult than, say, going to a school that pays higher salaries or has a head coach with a different style.

there are reasons why MN has had a revolving door for assistant coaches during the Fleck era. I believe only Simon and Callahan are left from his original staff - and Simon is the only coach still in the same position. (Callahan was the TE coach in 2017).
 


short ornery norwegian said:
in general, yes. but the details matter.

at MN, that coordinator is coming to a school that is on the lower end of its conference for assistant coaching salaries, and would need to fit with a coach who has a very conservative coaching philosophy.

I think that makes it somewhat more difficult than, say, going to a school that pays higher salaries or has a head coach with a different style.
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I think the offensive style is probably more favored by a lot of DCs, but that’s just my experience in coaching circles
short ornery norwegian said:
there are reasons why MN has had a revolving door for assistant coaches during the Fleck era. I believe only Simon and Callahan are left from his original staff - and Simon is the only coach still in the same position. (Callahan was the TE coach in 2017).
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Please dont mention Simon. It’s like a bat signal for MPLSGopher
 

short ornery norwegian said:
in general, yes. but the details matter.

at MN, that coordinator is coming to a school that is on the lower end of its conference for assistant coaching salaries, and would need to fit with a coach who has a very conservative coaching philosophy.

I think that makes it somewhat more difficult than, say, going to a school that pays higher salaries or has a head coach with a different style.

there are reasons why MN has had a revolving door for assistant coaches during the Fleck era. I believe only Simon and Callahan are left from his original staff - and Simon is the only coach still in the same position. (Callahan was the TE coach in 2017).
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Would you advocate overpaying our staff of inexperienced and untested P5 guys more just to make our salary pool look better?
 

Some guy said:
The rumor I have heard is K state guy
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Alright, if it is him, I agree with your statement of solid hire, but not a home run. He's got proven experience running a solid D, so hopefully we won't shit the bed next season on D. Maybe he can keep some of those defensive commits here as well...
 





Gopherchase said:
Works for me. Hire him up.
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I am not confident in my source. I would be pleased with the hire in that I’m not sure who is realistic that I would think is a home run

And I can think of many worse choices
 









Scottsdale Gopher said:
If it is Klanderman from K-State, a couple interesting things: 1) they’ve been running a three-man front, though that isn’t the only system he’s run and 2) Safety Kobe Savage entered the portal yesterday. Klanderman is his position coach
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That’s a great name for a hard hitting strong safety.
 

If it's Klanderman there is likely a buyout involved. He has a two-year deal that started for 2023. KSU pool is $4.77M

www.heartlandcollegesports.com

Collin Klein Receives Big Raise From Kansas State

The Kansas State Wildcats’ splurge on providing raises for assistant coaches worked well as the 2023 salary pool will increase to $4.77 million, nearly one million dollars higher than the 2022 season. While the biggest increase was for offensive coordinator and Wildcat legend Collin Klein...
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MaxyJR1 said:
If it's Klanderman there is likely a buyout involved. He has a two-year deal that started for 2023. KSU pool is $4.77M

www.heartlandcollegesports.com

Collin Klein Receives Big Raise From Kansas State

The Kansas State Wildcats’ splurge on providing raises for assistant coaches worked well as the 2023 salary pool will increase to $4.77 million, nearly one million dollars higher than the 2022 season. While the biggest increase was for offensive coordinator and Wildcat legend Collin Klein...
www.heartlandcollegesports.com www.heartlandcollegesports.com
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I tapped out on the Rossi thread due to negativity. Did Rossi's deal have a buyout that we could turn around and use?
 


swelna said:
If we could pull Joe H from Rutgers, I would be happy.

I also remember earlier in the season PJ mentioned something about clashing philosophies on the coaching staff. I wonder if maybe Rossi was disagreeing with some of the other defensive coaches? And then if PJ wasn't fully taking Rossi's side it could have built a bit of animosity. Complete speculation though
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I heard some of the coaches wanted to play to win.
 

Gopherchase said:
Would you advocate overpaying our staff of inexperienced and untested P5 guys more just to make our salary pool look better?
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I actually might. It's hard to outrun the perception that you're cheap in hiring circles. I also wouldn't want to give the impression to our opponents, staff, and recruits that we couldn't afford a Big 10 staff.
 

Scottsdale Gopher said:
If it is Klanderman from K-State, a couple interesting things: 1) they’ve been running a three-man front, though that isn’t the only system he’s run and 2) Safety Kobe Savage entered the portal yesterday. Klanderman is his position coach
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NDSU runs 40 front, I’m sure he has run that at other places as well.
 

The KSU guy would satisfy those here that want an established guy. Think we had other options that weren’t terrible from within as well but coach Winston probably wasn’t ready yet and is more risky than an established guy. Anyone have stats on how the KSU defense has ranked?
 

CentralGopher said:
The KSU guy would satisfy those here that want an established guy. Think we had other options that weren’t terrible from within as well but coach Winston probably wasn’t ready yet and is more risky than an established guy. Anyone have stats on how the KSU defense has ranked?
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Keeping my powder dry and not digging anything up beyond his bio unless/until we get a sourced report that he's the guy. But the bio is encouraging on the surface: https://www.kstatesports.com/staff-directory/joe-klanderman/296
 

CentralGopher said:
The KSU guy would satisfy those here that want an established guy. Think we had other options that weren’t terrible from within as well but coach Winston probably wasn’t ready yet and is more risky than an established guy. Anyone have stats on how the KSU defense has ranked?
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Top 3 in Big 12 for two years and top 2 in scoring defense. I think he would fit Fleck's complimentary football mold he desires.

We would be able to give him a raise, allow him to be back 50 minutes from where he grew up and he would help solidify local recruiting.
 

I wonder how Klanderman is in recruiting circles? On 247 his name isn’t tied to many of the defensive recruits as being the primary or secondary recruiter. Of course in the NIL world, the qualities we look for in regards to being a good recruiter might not matter any more. Could just be all about the money. He is listed as the primary recruiter for one safety they have committed.
 

U2Gopher said:
I wonder how Klanderman is in recruiting circles? On 247 his name isn’t tied to many of the defensive recruits as being the primary or secondary recruiter. Of course in the NIL world, the qualities we look for in regards to being a good recruiter might not matter any more. Could just be all about the money. He is listed as the primary recruiter for one safety they have committed.
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Kansas State has lost there OC to Texas A&M who was an alum and they have 15 guys in the portal. I read last night that of 40 guys they brought in for the 2021 and 2022 classes only 19 are left. (That might be average as I haven't compared.)

They seem to be having some similar issues to us.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Kansas State has lost there OC to Texas A&M who was an alum and they have 15 guys in the portal. I read last night that of 40 guys they brought in for the 2021 and 2022 classes only 19 are left. (That might be average as I haven't compared.)

They seem to be having some similar issues to us.
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Seems to be common for the teams that don't have an infinite payroll.
 

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