The ordeal of no divisions

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If fans don't raise hell, we may be stuck with an 18-team "league" indefinitely. Also, send UCLA, USC, Washington, and especially, Oregon, back to the West Coast where they belong. With them gone, we'd have two 7-team divisions, based again on geography. The massive greed has led to massive cash for the B10, but still most schools will be short on the new crazy cost of paying players. It never ends - so a 16 team playoff, then more teams added, as in basketball, the playoffs being a second season. The greed leads down a rabbit hole that has no end.
 


The division system had its fair share of criticism, too. Reaction to Leagues and Legends was mixed and the West was often looked at as the lesser of the two during its existance.

Regardless, I don't see anything changing. The recent changes were all about TV. I don't think that was always the case. Adding Penn State and Nebraska was genuinely expanding the conference with two prolific football programs in Midwest/B1G adjacent states.

That's not the case with the East and West Coast additions. By bringing those in, the Big Ten now has a presence in states with 4 of the top 5 media markets, and 18 of the top 40. The recent additions, in bold, added 8, including the 2 largest.

No. 1 New York City - Rutgers
No. 2 Los Angeles - USC, UCLA
No. 3 Chicago - Illinois, Northwestern
No. 5 Philadelphia - Penn State
No. 8 Washington DC - Maryland
No. 10 Bay Area - USC, UCLA
No. 13 Seattle - Washington
No. 14 Detroit - Michigan, Michigan State
No. 16 Twin Cities - Minnesota
No. 19 Cleveland - Ohio State
No. 23 Portland - Oregon
No. 25 Indianapolis - Indiana, Purdue
No. 27 Pittsburgh - Penn State
No. 29 Baltimore - Maryland
No. 30 San Diego - USC, UCLA
No. 35 Columbus - Ohio State
No. 37 Cincinnati - Ohio State
No. 38 Milwaukee - Wisconsin
 

IceBoxGopher said:
The division system had its fair share of criticism, too. Reaction to Leagues and Legends was mixed and the West was often looked at as the lesser of the two during its existance.

Regardless, I don't see anything changing. The recent changes were all about TV. I don't think that was always the case. Adding Penn State and Nebraska was genuinely expanding the conference with two prolific football programs in Midwest/B1G adjacent states.

That's not the case with the East and West Coast additions. By bringing those in, the Big Ten now has a presence in states with 4 of the top 5 media markets, and 18 of the top 40. The recent additions, in bold, added 8, including the 2 largest.

No. 1 New York City - Rutgers
No. 2 Los Angeles - USC, UCLA
No. 3 Chicago - Illinois, Northwestern
No. 5 Philadelphia - Penn State
No. 8 Washington DC - Maryland
No. 10 Bay Area - USC, UCLA
No. 13 Seattle - Washington
No. 14 Detroit - Michigan, Michigan State
No. 16 Twin Cities - Minnesota
No. 19 Cleveland - Ohio State
No. 23 Portland - Oregon
No. 25 Indianapolis - Indiana, Purdue
No. 27 Pittsburgh - Penn State
No. 29 Baltimore - Maryland
No. 30 San Diego - USC, UCLA
No. 35 Columbus - Ohio State
No. 37 Cincinnati - Ohio State
No. 38 Milwaukee - Wisconsin
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Time to break into Texas.
 

18 doesn’t really work
Once it expands to 20, 24, or 28 it’ll go to two sides round robin

I don’t think there’ll be divisions but basically there’ll be scheduling divisions that could change every year
 



Great Plains Gopher said:
If fans don't raise hell, we may be stuck with an 18-team "league" indefinitely. Also, send UCLA, USC, Washington, and especially, Oregon, back to the West Coast where they belong. With them gone, we'd have two 7-team divisions, based again on geography. The massive greed has led to massive cash for the B10, but still most schools will be short on the new crazy cost of paying players. It never ends - so a 16 team playoff, then more teams added, as in basketball, the playoffs being a second season. The greed leads down a rabbit hole that has no end.
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Virtually no fans will raise hell. You, I guess.
 


Perhaps after the Big 10 & SEC merge to form a Super Duper Conference, divisions will return.
 



Some guy said:
18 doesn’t really work
Once it expands to 20, 24, or 28 it’ll go to two sides round robin

I don’t think there’ll be divisions but basically there’ll be scheduling divisions that could change every year
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Agree 18 is tough for scheduling. I’m guessing they’ll use a “pods” scenario once they get to 20+ and still put the top 2 teams in CCG. Everyone would play all the teams in their pod and one other, plus 1 or 2 more conf games. I’d actually love an unscheduled opponent the last week of the season who finishes in the same spot in a 3rd pod (1 v 1, 2 v 2, etc.) like some HS conferences do.
 

MGGopher said:
Agree 18 is tough for scheduling. I’m guessing they’ll use a “pods” scenario once they get to 20+ and still put the top 2 teams in CCG. Everyone would play all the teams in their pod and one other, plus 1 or 2 more conf games. I’d actually love an unscheduled opponent the last week of the season who finishes in the same spot in a 3rd pod (1 v 1, 2 v 2, etc.) like some HS conferences do.
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20 teams you go 4 groups of 5
You play your 4 plus an entire other group of 5
You play 4 teams every year. You play everyone home and home in 6.

Top two go. essentially rotating scheduling divisions but not actually divisions
 

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