The Myth of Minnesota Superiority

Yeah I know what you mean, I had the same random thoughts. I liked the part about reusing the milk. I can totally identify, but I really made an effort to marry just the right amount of milk with cereal. I only feel successful if my last bite of cereal is also my last drop of milk. I feel badly about myself if I fail.

My cereal is no longer my own, but just borrowed from my son until he gets to drink the sugared milk finally. I haven't found a way to explain how the sugar is stuffed into the cow to make the milk so sweet. Any ideas?
 


My cereal is no longer my own, but just borrowed from my son until he gets to drink the sugared milk finally. I haven't found a way to explain how the sugar is stuffed into the cow to make the milk so sweet. Any ideas?

I hadn't thought about that. Good question, hopefully he doesn't ask until you find an answer. I had a similar thought about banana flavored milk. I don't know if they still sell it, but I always wondered if the cows had to eat alot of bananas or if they milked monkeys. I was hoping for the cows. But I never did find out for sure.

As to your original question I'm thinking it has something to do with gummy worms. I seem to recall something about that. Too much snacking, you'll generally find this to be a problem with younger milk cows. Perhaps they segregate this sugary milk just for cereal.
 

I sure hope our new cultured resident can explain how many gummy worms you can plant before you end up with a bunch of rif raff digging up your land. I hope we didn't scare him away with these simpleton concerns. We do have a lot of transplates from neighboring states. It is so hard to keep up with the Jones and their fancy pancy gingerbread homes.
 

I think that's the real problem, my formative cereal years were prior to all the variations. I mean Kix was neat to have, except you didn't want to spill the box, they go everywhere. I never really got into the different kinds of kix. I imagine Berry Berry kix would be good. I think I'll look for them on sale and give it a go. Thanks for the tip.

I've never been much of a fan of the berry cereals and other kinds of artificial flavored cereal. People need to stick with the basics, as for me Cheerios are my staple and if I'm feeling adventurous I will reach for the Honey Nut Cheerios or Lucky Charms.

I've also found that Kix tend to become stale more rapidly than other cereals.
 


Yeah I know what you mean, I had the same random thoughts. I liked the part about reusing the milk. I can totally identify, but I really made an effort to marry just the right amount of milk with cereal. I only feel successful if my last bite of cereal is also my last drop of milk. I feel badly about myself if I fail.

I like to drink the sugary milk at the bottom of a bowl of cereal. Although I also strive for the perfect milk/cereal ratio but it seldom works out in the end.
 

I've never been much of a fan of the berry cereals and other kinds of artificial flavored cereal. People need to stick with the basics, as for me Cheerios are my staple and if I'm feeling adventurous I will reach for the Honey Nut Cheerios or Lucky Charms.

I've also found that Kix tend to become stale more rapidly than other cereals.

I don't mean to sound Iowan but cheerios is something you do when you are like 9months old. You need to start hitting up the Guthrie and move on to Life.
 

I've never been much of a fan of the berry cereals and other kinds of artificial flavored cereal. People need to stick with the basics, as for me Cheerios are my staple and if I'm feeling adventurous I will reach for the Honey Nut Cheerios or Lucky Charms.

I've also found that Kix tend to become stale more rapidly than other cereals.

I kind of always liked nabisco shredded wheat. The old style, remember when you had to take one out and break it up. I thought that was neat. I like them because they were locally grown. I still like to see all the nabisco shredded wheat farms across the landscape with all those great big biscuits just sitting on the field waiting to be broken into little ones and packaged for the store.
 




As for the rest of it, grow up. It makes you sound provincial and insecure. My guess is that most posters on this board have never been to the Guthrie Theatre, so don't give me the culture crap. I regularly attend Broadway quality theatre in Des Moines.

haha, this sentence voids your whole argument. Theatre is the contrapositive of Iowa, you have failed here. And when you compare Minneapolis to Chicago, well, in my opinion, we're better than our counter-parts in some areas, and very competitive in others. Everyone knows that Iowa is filled with farms, and well, that's about it. Your comparative state, Nebraska, at least has Warren Buffet to save them.

But for you, no one is there. But hey, I'll give you this, if there ever is a zombie invasion, Iowa would definitely look like an attractive refuge.
 

I kind of always liked nabisco shredded wheat. The old style, remember when you had to take one out and break it up. I thought that was neat. I like them because they were locally grown. I still like to see all the nabisco shredded wheat farms across the landscape with all those great big biscuits just sitting on the field waiting to be broken into little ones and packaged for the store.

this has to be the best one yet. bravo! :clap:
 


Minnesota is superior, just for the simple fact that we know it's "drivel", not "dribble". I'll wager you wasted your entire evening on this garbage, I suggest you go to bed, you'll have to be up quite early to milk Bessie and Bossie in the morning.

+1 this is great lol
 




I've never been much of a fan of the berry cereals and other kinds of artificial flavored cereal. People need to stick with the basics, as for me Cheerios are my staple and if I'm feeling adventurous I will reach for the Honey Nut Cheerios or Lucky Charms.

I've also found that Kix tend to become stale more rapidly than other cereals.

No one talks about my Kix that way!!:mad:

"People 'need' to stick to the basics" I think we can make the connection between cereal choice and communism if needed. I look at Berry Berry Kix in the same light as freedom. I like fruit, but I don't always have the real thing..hence the artificial fruit flavor. I choose to eat 'Red'. I choose to eat 'yellow'. That is America right there...the right to eat red and yellow.
 

I think that you have all missed the point. I have never said that Iowa is better than Minnesota. My sense of self doesn't require that I thump my chest and make stupid comparisons. What I am saying is that from the time that I was a student at Mankato State in the 1960's, I have been surprised at the need for many Minnesota people to put down Iowa. I can only conclude that it comes from a combination of insecurity and human nature. Human nature in that when we hear the same things being said enough times, we assume that they must be true. In other words, you just can't help it because you have heard the same old crap your entire lives.

If you imagine that your quality of life is better than mine, you are delusional. The way that people live is determined by economic circumstance, not where they live. The Twin Cities are obviously larger than Des Moines, but that only means that you have more of the same things that you would find in cities all over the United States. A shopping mall is a shopping mall all over the U.S. People in Des Moines shop in the same chain stores, they eat the same food, they watch the same television shows, read the same magazines, see the same movies, and, if they can afford it, they seek the same entertainments. You might be surprised to learn that Forbes magazine ranked Des Moines as the third most livable city in 2009, and that the Des Moines Civic Center was ranked in the top fifteen theatre venues in the world by Pollstar magazine in 2008. The Des Moines Art festival regularly ranks in the top ten in the nation.

Of course, none of that makes any difference to you. Your minds are made up and that is fine with me. But as a long time reader of this board, I have to wonder why there are so many unprovoked posts in which you feel the need to preach to the choir about how superior you are to Iowa. I think that it says something about you, not me.
 

I think that you have all missed the point. I have never said that Iowa is better than Minnesota. My sense of self doesn't require that I thump my chest and make stupid comparisons. What I am saying is that from the time that I was a student at Mankato State in the 1960's, I have been surprised at the need for many Minnesota people to put down Iowa. I can only conclude that it comes from a combination of insecurity and human nature. Human nature in that when we hear the same things being said enough times, we assume that they must be true. In other words, you just can't help it because you have heard the same old crap your entire lives.

If you imagine that your quality of life is better than mine, you are delusional. The way that people live is determined by economic circumstance, not where they live. The Twin Cities are obviously larger than Des Moines, but that only means that you have more of the same things that you would find in cities all over the United States. A shopping mall is a shopping mall all over the U.S. People in Des Moines shop in the same chain stores, they eat the same food, they watch the same television shows, read the same magazines, see the same movies, and, if they can afford it, they seek the same entertainments. You might be surprised to learn that Forbes magazine ranked Des Moines as the third most livable city in 2009, and that the Des Moines Civic Center was ranked in the top fifteen theatre venues in the world by Pollstar magazine in 2008. The Des Moines Art festival regularly ranks in the top ten in the nation.

Of course, none of that makes any difference to you. Your minds are made up and that is fine with me. But as a long time reader of this board, I have to wonder why there are so many unprovoked posts in which you feel the need to preach to the choir about how superior you are to Iowa. I think that it says something about you, not me.

I thought this thread was about cereal?
 

Schnoodler, your first entry on this thread is probably the best thing I've ever read on this board.

athelstan, Des Moines is nice. The Twin Cities are nice. Duluth is nice. I grew up in a small town in Minnesota in the 1960s and I'm sure that our slack-jawed yokels and Iowa's slack-jawed yokels are similar. Life wherever it is lived can be full of enjoyment. What's your point?
 

I've really rediscovered Raisin Bran. Sweet but substantial.

If I go for sugar, I go Captain Crunch. Problem is it tears up the roof of my mouth and then the coffee burns like hell. Complaints about pain fall on dead ears at the breakfast table AND at work.
 

Two posts and he can't stand no more. Funny stuff. If MN wasn't superior, he wouldn't care enough to post about it. Thanks for the Iowa comments on MN, they were hilarious.
 

Nice try, hayseed

Go back to your slop pail, only 8 hour hours till Old Country Buffet starts the early seating!
 

I think that you have all missed the point. I have never said that Iowa is better than Minnesota. My sense of self doesn't require that I thump my chest and make stupid comparisons. What I am saying is that from the time that I was a student at Mankato State in the 1960's, I have been surprised at the need for many Minnesota people to put down Iowa. I can only conclude that it comes from a combination of insecurity and human nature. Human nature in that when we hear the same things being said enough times, we assume that they must be true. In other words, you just can't help it because you have heard the same old crap your entire lives.

If you imagine that your quality of life is better than mine, you are delusional. The way that people live is determined by economic circumstance, not where they live. The Twin Cities are obviously larger than Des Moines, but that only means that you have more of the same things that you would find in cities all over the United States. A shopping mall is a shopping mall all over the U.S. People in Des Moines shop in the same chain stores, they eat the same food, they watch the same television shows, read the same magazines, see the same movies, and, if they can afford it, they seek the same entertainments. You might be surprised to learn that Forbes magazine ranked Des Moines as the third most livable city in 2009, and that the Des Moines Civic Center was ranked in the top fifteen theatre venues in the world by Pollstar magazine in 2008. The Des Moines Art festival regularly ranks in the top ten in the nation.

Of course, none of that makes any difference to you. Your minds are made up and that is fine with me. But as a long time reader of this board, I have to wonder why there are so many unprovoked posts in which you feel the need to preach to the choir about how superior you are to Iowa. I think that it says something about you, not me.

You have the typical country cousin mentality: why do I need the big city when all I need is right here? The problem is that the things you need probably amount to a bowl of shredded wheat and the USA today. For people who want more, there are large metropolitan areas like Minneapolis.

Your ridiculous argument is like me saying Minneapolis is as grand as New York City or London because we have food to eat and a movie theater.

EDIT: to stay on topic for the football board, I will also point out that Minnesota has 6 National Championships and Iowa has zero. Hope this helps.
 

I think that you have all missed the point. I have never said that Iowa is better than Minnesota. My sense of self doesn't require that I thump my chest and make stupid comparisons. What I am saying is that from the time that I was a student at Mankato State in the 1960's, I have been surprised at the need for many Minnesota people to put down Iowa. I can only conclude that it comes from a combination of insecurity and human nature. Human nature in that when we hear the same things being said enough times, we assume that they must be true. In other words, you just can't help it because you have heard the same old crap your entire lives.

If you imagine that your quality of life is better than mine, you are delusional. The way that people live is determined by economic circumstance, not where they live. The Twin Cities are obviously larger than Des Moines, but that only means that you have more of the same things that you would find in cities all over the United States. A shopping mall is a shopping mall all over the U.S. People in Des Moines shop in the same chain stores, they eat the same food, they watch the same television shows, read the same magazines, see the same movies, and, if they can afford it, they seek the same entertainments. You might be surprised to learn that Forbes magazine ranked Des Moines as the third most livable city in 2009, and that the Des Moines Civic Center was ranked in the top fifteen theatre venues in the world by Pollstar magazine in 2008. The Des Moines Art festival regularly ranks in the top ten in the nation.

Of course, none of that makes any difference to you. Your minds are made up and that is fine with me. But as a long time reader of this board, I have to wonder why there are so many unprovoked posts in which you feel the need to preach to the choir about how superior you are to Iowa. I think that it says something about you, not me.


In response I give you these FACTS, not opnions:

1.Minneapolis was the most literate city in the country in 2008 and St. Paul was the fourth most literate, according to a study by Central Connecticut State University. No Iowa cities on that list. http://web.ccsu.edu/AMLC08/overall_10.htm

2. Out of 50 cities, Minneapolis-St. Paul ranks seventh nationwide for “fun,” according to Bizjournal.com. Again..no Iowa cities on the list. http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/pages/138.html

3. 2008 US Sustainable Cities rankings: Minneapolis #7. Iowa cities....unlisted http://www.sustainlane.com/us-city-rankings/overall-rankings

4.Thedailybeast.com- America's smartest Cities 2008. #4- Minneapolis-St. Paul. Iowa?? MIA
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-...-to-worst/?cid=bs:archive9#gallery=787;page=1

5.Travel and leisure.com. America's favorite cities list. Theater rankings- Minneapolis- #3 behind New York and Chicago....Iowa...once again missing... http://www.travelandleisure.com/afc/2009/category/13/subcategory/69/

6. America's health rankings. Minnesota- 6th Healthiest State. Iowa- 15.
Prevelence of Obesity. Minnesota ranked 13th best. Iowa....26th.
Occupational Fatalities- Minnesota...#1 safest...Iowa...37th. Damn hog farming be killing people..
Just a few more to wrap up...you are going to like these:

You're thinking, well Minneapolis is the big bad city, of course its going to have some advantages, but Iowa is small town people...we are good, polite, law abiding people...
Air Pollution: Minnesota 13th best. Iowa 22...
Cardiovascular deaths: Minnesota- least deaths in nation, Iowa= 23
and my favorite:
Violent Crime: Minnesota 13th safest. Iowa 17th.
http://www.americashealthrankings.org/statecompare/2009/IA/MN.aspx

I rest my case your honor....Minnesota is better then Iowa.
 

Well done gopherguy. I like Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
 

I hate to break up the cereal orgy, but as you know, I just can't help myself.

More recently I have been reading the usual dribble on this board...ad nauseum.

Ha. "Dribble." Ha. "Ad nauseum."

Iowa has a better program than you do

Six national championships versus zero, and 18 Big Ten championships versus 11 would tend to disagree with you. Not to mention that pesky little 59-41 head-to-head record. This, of course, means that Iowa could win every single game against Minnesota from now through 2025, and still have fewer wins that Minnesota head-to-head. That's gotta hurt.

Iowa has a better team than Minnesota, but not a better program. Not even remotely in the vicinity of the ballpark of close.

Pro teams are artificial in nature with their fake cheerleaders, stupid fight songs, and in many cases spoiled overindulged players.

Blah, blah, blah I'm angry because I have to drive 6 hours to watch sports played at its highest level.

I regularly attend Broadway quality theatre in Des Moines.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fact is that I can do almost everything that you can do without leaving Iowa, and if I can't, I do the same thing that you would do; I get in my car and go to where I can.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm not even from Minnesota, but rather South Dakota, and there was a reason I moved here. I love my home state, but just like Iowa, it is an economic and cultural wasteland. There are a ton of things I can get here that I can't get in the Dakotas, Iowa, Nebraska, or Wisconsin. And you know it. And that's the reason why 9/10 young people in those states move to Minnesota or Illinois, either for college or immediately after it.

Also, it's Æthelstan. But I'm not surprised that they misinformed you about English history in Iowa's esteemed educational system.:rolleyes:
 

Once again, you are missing the point, but there is no good reason to keep repeating what I've said before. I can't comment on South Dakota because I have never lived there. When you say that it is an economic wasteland, I will have to defer to your judgement. I think that what you are really saying, however is that a very large metro area provides economic opportunities which are not present in rural America, which is suffering in every state.

The fact is, however, that most people living in the twin cities live no better lives than most people living in a smaller city like Des Moines. It is not about where you live, it is about taking advantage of the opportunities that exist where you live. I would be interested to know what % of Minnesota people regularly participate in "cultural activities." For all I know, they might as well live in Sioux Falls, which is a very nice city by the way.

I have no problem if you want to brag about what can be measured; it is the moronic stereotypes that I object to. One measurable which is indisputable, however is that Iowa football has been superior to Minnesota football for about 30 years. If you want to count what happened B.C. go for it. National championships have always been subjective, even in the era of the B.C.S. As I recall, the last time that Minnesota won one, they took the vote before the bowl game, which Minnesota lost. As for Iowa not having one, there is 1958 in which the title was a split decision with L.S.U., but that means about as much as the one you won in 1960. Absolutely nothing. Since 1979, Iowa has won five Big Ten titles, gone to three Rose Bowls and one Orange Bowl (which should have been a Rose Bowl except for the B.C.S.). I am not saying that that makes Iowa an elite national power. But it is a little better by far from what you have done.

As for Saturday, good luck, and may the best team win. I am still not convinced that it will be Iowa, as I have been to every home game this year, and have yet to leave the stadium with a good feeling about what I have seen.
 

It is not about where you live, it is about taking advantage of the opportunities that exist where you live. I would be interested to know what % of Minnesota people regularly participate in "cultural activities." For all I know, they might as well live in Sioux Falls, which is a very nice city by the way.

You aren't grasping why major cultural centers are in large metropolitan areas. It's because a lot of people go to them. We could have put the Guthrie or the Minneapolis Institute of Arts in Red Wing MN (nice city by the way) but then not nearly as many people would go to the Guthrie and we'd have to change the name of the MIA. I have no idea what the percentage of Minnesotans regularly go to arts things, but the overall number of people doing those things is higher here than it ever will be in a rural area.

And just to go in a slightly different direction. Since we began the Floyd of Rosedale in 1935 Minnesota's won the pig 6 more times than Iowa. Add that to the 6 national titles versus your half a one and I'm pretty happy with my program overall.

Gotta be honest guys, I'm not really a cereal fan. I like to go out for breakfast (before attending a cultural event) for pancakes or waffles.
 

gophergrad that is kind of divisive language that splits us gopher fans. When you try to compare eggs to a delectable choice like Apple Jacks, that is when people start question your ability to cheer for a great tradition like the U.

The edit button is there. Make the right choice.
 

As I recall, the last time that Minnesota won one, they took the vote before the bowl game, which Minnesota lost. As for Iowa not having one, there is 1958 in which the title was a split decision with L.S.U., but that means about as much as the one you won in 1960. Absolutely nothing.

Why do people keep bringing that up like it is relevant? It's not like in the fall of 1960, they suddenly decided to vote before the bowl games to change things up. That's the way it had always been done - FOR 24 YEARS. But Minnesota's is meaningless, because they won the vote fair and square like everyone before and after them (until 1968)? Gotcha.

And to call Minnesota's 1960 national championship even remotely equivalent to Iowa's 1958 Grantland Rice Trophy is so absurd it's ridiculous. The AP has been the arbiter or co-arbiter of the consensus national championship for 73 years. No one outside of the FWAA cares about the Grantland Rice Award. I think it's pretty interesting (and telling) that the University of Iowa itself has never came out and commented either way on its number of national championships. That way, their fans can keep pretending they have one.
 

I normally don't post on other boards, but as Popeye once said, "that's all I can stands, I can stand no more." Awhile back there was a topic on this board in which one of you walked into a bar and made some remark to a couple of people minding their own business who happened to be wearing Iowa sweatshirts. Then when they responded, the Minnesota dude's daughter made that very predictable comeback "how are the pro teams doing in Iowa this year?"

More recently I have been reading the usual dribble on this board about no cultural activities in Iowa, nothing to do there, lack of Fortune 500 companies, Iowa stinks, we hate Iowa, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

Some of you obviously just don't get it. This board is about college football, and Iowa has a better program than you do (which doesn't mean that they will win Saturday). I could care less about the NFL, but if I did, I'd be a fan of the team of my choice. The state that I reside in would have nothing to do with my allegiance because I am smart enough to realize that Pro sports have little if anything to do with the state that they are located in.

Until the Twins and Vikings arrived, all pro franchises were named for the city of location. Calling them Minnesota whatever was just a brilliant marketing strategy. Pro teams are artificial in nature with their fake cheerleaders, stupid fight songs, and in many cases spoiled overindulged players. They have nothing to do with you except profit, and if you don't give them what they want, they will go some place else.

As for the rest of it, grow up. It makes you sound provincial and insecure. My guess is that most posters on this board have never been to the Guthrie Theatre, so don't give me the culture crap. I regularly attend Broadway quality theatre in Des Moines. The fact is that I can do almost everything that you can do without leaving Iowa, and if I can't, I do the same thing that you would do; I get in my car and go to where I can.

You see, state borders are simply political creations. Indeed, if it hadn't been for the desire to create another anti-slave state, there would never have been a Minnesota. Everything south and west of the Mississippi would have been Iowa, and the rest of it would have been Wisconsin. What all of this means is that its alright if you live in Minnesota and become a Hawkeye fan if the Brewster thing doesn't work out. Or you can persist with your "we wish we were Chicago" syndrome and try and make yourself feel better by putting other people down.
Didn't read this.
 




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