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The majority of MTSU fans predict a W
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I'm not trying to start anything but...Minnesota fans think that MTSU is being too overconfident about this game?!? Have you read your posts??? Just because Dasher is out, you guys think it's an automatic win. Maybe you need to read up on some of our other players. There is a lot more to a team than just a QB. I'm not saying that we're going to win or completely blow you guys out of the water, but I really don't believe that it's going to be as easy as you guys think it is. With or without Dasher, we will still play hard and compete. I'm still looking forward to a close, tough game.
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Unless the players are posting these, I just wouldn't put too much stock into it.
TBH: I'm one of those people who think it isn't going to be close. I thought it was with Dasher, but am less confident now. I'm considering bringing my 3yr old to the bank, so he can run around on the field. If he gets bored early I can take him home and catch up on the rest of the game on the DVR.
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I think we might be a little susceptible to a couple big plays against us. Outside of that I think we dominate. 42-20
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Our collective confidence after finding out Dasher wouldn't be playing is equivalent to the collective confidence MTSU fans had with Dasher.
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This and the fact that mobile, run first Quarterbacks have been given the Gophers fits going back to the Wacker days. The big problem for their Defenses going back to 2003, maybe even 1999 is they haven't been able to get to the QB. Now throw in a guy who can run, Randle, Kafka, a bunch of Purdue QB's, DASHER and long time Gopher fans get nervous.
Now tell us that he's out and being replaced by a guy, any guy, who will probably stay in the pocket, and those same Gopher fans are a lot happier.
See dancer, combine our history with the glowing repots from national sources with the ones coming from MTSU fans and no one should begrudge Gopher fans for felling a hellva lot better now.
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yes, but those were the national news freak occurrences. if mtsu beats us there wont be more than the usual 5 second highlight of their RB running it in for TD before moving on. boise st has been good for a while, yes they were a surprise at first but now theyre expected to be good. MTSU is not boise state.
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But that mich team that got beat by fcs app st went on to beat Florida in a new years day bowl, the ia point I made as the ok state ranking. Point being that even pretty good bcs teams get beat by percieved 'davids'. By most accounts we are not in the 'pretty good bcs team' category.
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I understand but... you guys are still just a 3 point favorite, without Dasher. Plus, Minnesota (and MTSU for that matter) have no idea what this Kilgore guy can do. He may come out to play and be better than Dasher. Just because Dasher isn't playing isn't a reason to think that you're just going to blow us out of the water. I definitely think that there will still be competition. Like I said, a QB doesn't make a whole team.
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If Dasher is indeed 70% or more of your offense, it should be a blowout win and not up for debate. We've played similar games in the past against Toledo and Tulsa in recent memory with similar aspirations and destroyed them. The fact is, we don't exactly know how good we are so it becomes debatable. If we lose this game it's going to be a very long year in Gopherland.
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Im changing my prediction. The fans on this board have made me realize the error in my MTSU win prediction. The gophs are too big and talented and MTSU is missing their QB.
GOPHERS 42
MTSU 17
GOPHERS 42
MTSU 17
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That's the thing...Dasher ISN'T 70% of our offense. He was just our player that the media paid so much attention to because he had a great game against Southern Miss and set a record. But hey, think whatever you want. Hopefully your team is thinking the same so it will just make it easier for us to win.
Um....actually, statistically that may be true.
I just did a rough estimation and last year we scored somewhere between 45 and 50 TD's and Dasher was responsible for 36 of them. Don't forget he finished the season last year 7th nationally in total offense and 9th nationally in points responsible for.
Does that mean that we couldn't have found the points somewhere else? No absolutely not. Perhaps last year if Dasher had gone down, Burnette could have stepped in, he wouldn't have rushed for nearly as many touchdowns, but he was much more accurate and he probably would have thrown for more and thrown less interceptions....or maybe we wouldn't have scored nearly as many points.
No one knows what our offense would have looked like without Dasher last year, just like no one knows what it's going to look like for at least a few games this year without him, but statistically speaking Dasher probably was somewhere around 70% of our offense last year.
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PiKapp...you have to remember though, Beyah is back at WR (which he excelled at in 2008)-adds percentage to the offense. Also, Phillip Tanner is back which adds percentage to the offense. I doubt Daher makes 70%.
None of that has anything to do with the fact that Dasher was roughly 70% of our offense last season. Beyah and Tanner don't add percentage to the offense, they add options to the offense. If we had both of them in 2009, Dasher probably still would have been around 70% of our offense. In 2009 our offense went through Dwight Dasher and somewhere around 10 or our TD's all season were not ran for or thrown by #9. Having Tanner and Beyah wouldn't have decreased Dasher's percentage much, if at all, Tanner would have decreased Kyles % and Beyah would have decreased some of the WR's %, but just adding them into the mix wasn't going to magically make this a balanced offense.
Like I said, perhaps our offense would have been just as good and more balanced under Burnette, who knows? Perhaps our offense in 2010 will be just as good and more balanced under Kilgore, who knows? But the fact of the matter is Dasher was 70% of our offense last year and if you think that if he started every game this year that the numbers wouldn't be similar, you're fooling yourself. I think with the return of Tanner and the emergence of Benny Cunningham, the % might have gone down a little based on us not needing to lean on him in the running game nearly as much, but I imagine he still would have accounted for 60%-65% of our offense had he been the starter all season.
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When Dasher was down at the N.O. Bowl, Burnette played great. He even scored for us. I just don't see Dasher making up that much of our offense.
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But if he did, I think we have enough "options" now to replace him.
Why are you trying to downplay your guy like he wasn't a stud? It's okay to admit the guy was a HUGE part of your offense. The stats just simply bear that out, there's no denying this kid was a very large piece of what you do offensively. The QB isn't the whole team, but you are talking to the wrong fan base if you think we're gonna believe that QB play isn't important. QB play is part of the reason pundits are throwing 2-10 at our faces repeatedly.
All that said, I understand your belief that without Dasher, you can still produce effectively on offense. You guys do have some weapons to work with, and trust me, Brewster is well aware and has stated numerous times that MTSU isn't just about Dasher, so you don't have to worry about the actual players on the field taking your team lightly. But you can't blame any reasonable person for believing the task of beating your squad got easier with the loss of Dasher. Kilgore may very well come in and beast all over us (as has been mentioned a billion times, backup QBs have killed us before), but almost anyone would believe our odds of winning improved a ton without Dasher out there.
All that said, I understand your belief that without Dasher, you can still produce effectively on offense. You guys do have some weapons to work with, and trust me, Brewster is well aware and has stated numerous times that MTSU isn't just about Dasher, so you don't have to worry about the actual players on the field taking your team lightly. But you can't blame any reasonable person for believing the task of beating your squad got easier with the loss of Dasher. Kilgore may very well come in and beast all over us (as has been mentioned a billion times, backup QBs have killed us before), but almost anyone would believe our odds of winning improved a ton without Dasher out there.
What do you mean you don't see him making up that much of our offense? There is no debate, statistically he was responsible for somewhere around 70% of the points we scored and he was probably responsible for around that much of our yards gained in the year as well.
As I've said before, perhaps with Burnette under center last year our season would have went just as well, but even if it had, Burnette would not have accounted for the percentage of our offense like Dasher did, as Burnette would not have been running it. Dasher is a special player and to think that just anyone can replace his output is foolish. Perhaps Kilgore is also a special player, or with the emergence of an improved running game this year with the return of Tanner and the emergence of Cunningham, perhaps the combination of that run game and a more accurate passer in Kilgore will suitably fill the void left by Dasher, but to debate whether or not Dasher was 70% of our offense last year is asinine and to be blunt, it's stupid. When you look at the numbers, there is no reasonable way of saying anything to the contrary.
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MTSU gained 5482 yards on offense last season.
Dasher ran for 1154 yards and threw for 2789, which totaled 3943 yards.
Dasher made up 72% of their totaly yardage on offense.
MTSU had 47 TDs last season on offense
Dasher threw for 23 and ran for 13 TDs, which totaled 36 TDs
Dasher scored 77% of their offensive TDs last season.
Now, i'm not saying that Kilgore won't be able to replace him. I don't know a single thing about the kid (except that he can't run a 4.5 ), so maybe he'll be awesome. I also don't know much about the other players you are talking about, so I can certainly see if there are some players who step up and make the loss a bit less of an impact. However, it is a statistical fact that Dasher made up at least 70% of the Blue Raider's offense last season.
Dasher ran for 1154 yards and threw for 2789, which totaled 3943 yards.
Dasher made up 72% of their totaly yardage on offense.
MTSU had 47 TDs last season on offense
Dasher threw for 23 and ran for 13 TDs, which totaled 36 TDs
Dasher scored 77% of their offensive TDs last season.
Now, i'm not saying that Kilgore won't be able to replace him. I don't know a single thing about the kid (except that he can't run a 4.5
), so maybe he'll be awesome. I also don't know much about the other players you are talking about, so I can certainly see if there are some players who step up and make the loss a bit less of an impact. However, it is a statistical fact that Dasher made up at least 70% of the Blue Raider's offense last season.