The Athletic: Why the cost of college football roster building won’t slow down anytime soon

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GopherGrit said:
On one hand, T Boone Pickens donated to Oklahoma State right to the bitter end. Never got to seem them win a natty for his money.

They easily could have in 2011. They went 11-1
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And that one loss was to an unranked team in the final game of the season.

Not exactly a great way to try and convince people you deserve to play for the NC.
 


gopherbadgerman said:
Exactly, agree. So the fans that get the streaming services, buy sports packages, or get the cable packages, or buy the merch end up paying?
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That's not fans directly paying for player salaries in the slightest.

NFL owners aren't even paying the player's salaries out of their own pockets, let alone fans.
 

GopherTheJugular said:
And that one loss was to an unranked team in the final game of the season.

Not exactly a great way to try and convince people you deserve to play for the NC.
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2OT loss on the road when four people just died in a plane crash.

If that wasn't god smiting Pickens for trying to buy a national championship, nothing was.


They would have made even a four-team playoff. Would have been interesting for sure.
 



Ope3 said:
Money was only part of Indiana winning the National Championship. I'm sure any team could afford the Hoosier player who blocked the critical punt against the Hurricanes.
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Without having bought Mendoza, they go 9-3 in the regular season. Just that simple, just that correct.

I already won this discussion in another thread, not going to go back down that road again.
 


GopherGrit said:
That's not fans directly paying for player salaries in the slightest.

NFL owners aren't even paying the player's salaries out of their own pockets, let alone fans.
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Nope they are paying indirectly in some cases. But they’re still paying. The fans should pay shouldn’t they?
 




GopherGrit said:
Without having bought Mendoza, they go 9-3 in the regular season. Just that simple, just that correct.

I already won this discussion in another thread, not going to go back down that road again.
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Lol
 


GopherGrit said:
Without having bought Mendoza, they go 9-3 in the regular season. Just that simple, just that correct.

I already won this discussion in another thread, not going to go back down that road again.
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Why would you think that? They went 11-2 the previous season with Kurtis Rourke as their QB. They likely beat Notre Dame if Rourke isn't injured.

Mendoza went to Indiana for the money (like all transfers) and because they were a legit contender. It was an ideal situation for a good QB and Indiana created that ideal situation by being a legit contender with a QB need.

Obviously, no one knows what happens without Mendoza, but this was a REALLY good football team prior to Mendoza.
 





gopherbadgerman said:
And wouldn’t fans fund those employers?
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I think he's saying "yes, but not directly". There is a slight difference between you funding the employer who then funds the employee, vs you funding the employee via a side relationship.
 


gopherbadgerman said:
Nope they are paying indirectly in some cases. But they’re still paying. The fans should pay shouldn’t they?
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You asked who should pay.

Pay means direct payments. That should be the schools, just as the teams pay them in the NFL.

"Indirect" is not at all the same thing, and it's a flimsy concept that can be contorted to mean basically whatever you want it to mean.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
For players' salaries, IMO, no.

Employer should pay the employee and charge me for the product.
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This is correct, other than that students on college varsity rosters are not and must not become common-law employees of the schools.

They receive 1099-NEC forms to pay taxes on their payments.
 
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gopherbadgerman said:
And wouldn’t fans fund those employers?
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All money continuously flows around. Even money just "sitting" in bank accounts is not really sitting there, the bank is using your money to invest in various things in the hopes of keep the earnings for themself.

If you're going to arbitrarily discard accepted, standard definitions, then you can wave your hands around and claim that anything "funds" anything.

The $20 I spent at the gas station went partially to the attendant in the store, and then he spent some of that on a slice of pizza, some of that went to the pizza cook's wages, who then spent some of that on a new car, etc etc etc etc
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Why would you think that? They went 11-2 the previous season with Kurtis Rourke as their QB. They likely beat Notre Dame if Rourke isn't injured.

Mendoza went to Indiana for the money (like all transfers) and because they were a legit contender. It was an ideal situation for a good QB and Indiana created that ideal situation by being a legit contender with a QB need.

Obviously, no one knows what happens without Mendoza, but this was a REALLY good football team prior to Mendoza.
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They beat 11 teams ranging from bad to meh. The only good team they played the entire year was Ohio State, and they lost.

Last year, on the other hand, they played three good teams that they easily could have lost to (one of which, at Penn State, they absolutely deserved and should have lost).

Mendoza won the Heisman as the best player in college football.


Quite plainly, simply, and I say correctly ... you don't won those three if you don't have the best player in college football as your QB. One of the most, if not the most important positions in all of sports.
 

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