The 5 worst firings over the past 10 years in college football (Mason/Minnesota #2)

[BleedGopher]

per the link:

The 5 worst firings over the past 10 years in college football

There's been some good decisions when it comes to new coaches being hired & fired over the past ten years, and some bad decisions. I arrived at this list with 5 criteria: What was the state of the program before the coach arrived at the particular school? How successful was the coach had at the school? How was the team's competition? What was the aftermath of the decision/how did the school do after they fired him?, and lastly, how has the coach followed up with his new job(s) after he was fired?

2.) Minnesota - Glen Mason:

Former Buckeye Linebacker Glen Mason is the like the hot girlfriend you break up with, because you think you can find a hotter girl. Then one day it sinks in that you screwed up royally, and didn't realize how good you had it until she's gone. You're left face down on a cold floor, borderline passed out, quasi-depressed, surrounded by empty bottles of Stroh's, with the Counting Crows August and Everything After cd playing in he background...and she's gone for good. And you'd pay the devil to replace her. Or Tim Brewster.

Okay, maybe it's not that bad. But, Mason was about as good as it's going to get for the Golden Gophers in this day and age, (see Tubby Smith). Mason was a solid coach who built a respected program. A program predicated on strong offensive line play, with an even stronger running game. This was the right approach for the Big Ten. Minnesota's rush offense was always highly-ranked under Mason. In 2003, for just the 30th time in college football history, the Gophers had 2 running backs with at least 1,000 yards each in the same season: Marion Barber III and Laurence Maroney. Both RBs went on to the NFL. Mason led the Gophers to an overall 38-25 record his last 5 seasons at the helm. But on the last day of 2006, following an epic meltdown in the Insight Bowl against Texas Tech where the Gophers blew a 38-7 third-quarter league to lost the game 41-44 in overtime, Mason was fired. At the time I really thought this was an emotional, knee-jerk reaction by the Minnesota powers-that-be.

Minnesota has to swallow the pill that, for the time being at least, they have a ceiling. Mason and his success was about as good as it was going to get. With Ohio State, M*chigan, Penn State, and other B1G squads to battle with, Minnesota was never going to be a favorite to win the conference. They really haven't been in decades, (haven't won the conference since 1967), and don't seem to be anytime soon. It's hard to recruit out-of-state players to Minneapolis; especially when Ohio State, M*chigan, and now Nebraska, are in the same conference. With 3 different head coaches since 2007, Minnesota has struggled since firing Mason, going 26-46 since they let him go. It seems that the Gophers may have finally found a guy who can turn the corner though, in Jerry Kill. More important than coaching records is the health of the current Gophers head coach. Hopefully Coach Kill's health can improve, after he's battled various health problems, including a few seizures during games.

Glen Mason has managed to stay away from getting back on the coaching carousel, and continues his job as an analyst for the Big Ten Network. I've always thought he'd make a great Running Backs Coach for Ohio State, or perhaps an Offensive Coordinator or Head Coach somewhere in the BIG or MAC.

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/blogs...gs-over-the-past-10-years-in-college-football

Go Gophers!!

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

Such a terrible firing that not 1 school has even seriously entertained the idea of hiring him.

They are confusing "bad firing" with "bad hiring".

 

[highwayman]

He fails to mention the fabulous 4th quarters, including the Indiana melt-down, the Northwestern melt-down, the North Carolina State melt-down, the Purdue melt-down, the Ohio State meltdown, the near-Northwestern melt-down II, the Wisconsin melt-down I, the Michigan melt-down I, the Wisconsin melt-down II, the Michigan melt-down II, and the Virginia melt-down that all preceded that.

I guess he did win one of those.

 

[Ski U Mah Gopher]

Plus, it's only two head coaches, unless he counts Horton, who only coached 5 games as the interim coach.

 

[Goofers71]

Insight Bowl vs. Texas Tech

 

[The 12th Man]

Such a terrible firing that not 1 school has even seriously entertained the idea of hiring him.

They are confusing "bad firing" with "bad hiring".

Agreed. I really bristle at this idea of a magical ceiling for Minnesota. Do people just think Wisconsin was always good? A good hire made by a committed administration is all it takes for a school with the size and resources of Minnesota. Unfortunately, that did not happen for a few years/decades.

 

[imthewalrus]

xyz...

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[forever a gopher]

No way...a Buckeye site has a hard on for Grinnin' Glen?

I will never understand the obsession with people on the outside saying that a program only deserves to be mediocre. Wisconsin, Oregon, Boise State, Northwestern, etc...nope, you're not allowed to be good, or even think about trying to be good because you've been bad in the past. Do not hope. Do not dream. Do not attempt to improve your situation. Nope; just accept your lot in life, and if you're not a "helmet school", just fall in line.

10 years, and his best finish was tied for 4th in the conference. 4th out of 11 teams. Wow; we should only be so lucky to have such a world beater. If Mason would have been here another 2 years, the national perception on the firing would have been very different. It was obvious he was just mailing it in in the recruiting department towards the end, and the downward trajectory was starting. Brewster was one of the worst head coach hires I can ever remember, but you can't say he was coaching with a full cupboard either, and the majority of that falls on Mason.

 

[MNGoldenGophers1]

Everyone knows Mason was far from perfect. Although I wouldn't put him on a pedestal, I don't see the need to rip on him. I think one could make a case he did O.K. given the lack of institutional and arguably incompetent administrative support. Sure, he made a decent living while he coached here so it's hard to feel too bad about him being fired. But I'll say this for him, he lives in MN and he seems to support the program and in particular Kill. As such, I'm O.K. with his time here as a coach and will admit I enjoy his current status as an analyst.

Go Gophers!

 

[MspHawk]

one of the better posts ive read here in a long time. You might have been half in the bag when you wrote it but I agree with you.

Ok...IF and WHEN...mostly IF the Gophers get back to turning out All-Americans and ALL Big Ten players and the NEXT time they EVER go 10-3...and IF they ever beat Michigan or Ohio State and have a nice string of wins against Oregon, Arkansas and Alabama, MSU, Penn State, wisky again then you can try to get on your high horses about how horrible Mason was. BUT, until the day comes when Minnesota Football is as much of all those things as it was under Mason, I think you need to be reminded that you are trying entirely too hard to TRASH and BASH the BEST multi-year string memories of being a Gopher Fan I have had since some of the good years of the last half of Warmath's tenure here, some of the Stoll years and a couple of Guttey years when the team got a bowl game.

I am really rooting for Coach Kill to get us back to the level of play Mason had achieved. And, I sincerely hope he can go busting through the Mason levels and surpass them. BUT, until I see that happen, to have you people try to trash what I firmly believe was a really well-balanced time to be a Gopher Fan...when I used to LOVE to go on Big Ten Road trips. I saw wins in Ann Arbor, Columbus, Champaign, iowa city, Evanston, East Lansing. I saw wins in El Paso (Oregon), Nashville (Arkansas, Alabama). I saw home wins against Purdue, Illinois, iowa, wisky, Penn State, Northwestern, Indiana and Michigan State.

Yes, I saw those losses. But, in my book it was good to have been competitive enough against Michigan and wisky, NU, Purdue and that Texas Tech team in 2006 had given Texas all they could handle and I believe had defeated Oklahoma. That was one hell of a potent Texas Tech offense. Sure those losses hurt...but...at least our Gophers took a shot at those bad guys from Michigan, wisky, etc.

So, UNTIL someone does better for a TEN YEAR STRETCH as our coach...I think it is totally foolish of you people to try to totally trash and bash Coach Mason, his players and MY good memories of loving to go to road games because there really WAS a possibility that the Gophers might come away with a win.

And, I LOVED watching some of those All-American players...All-Big Ten players and those offensive lines...and those running backs.

Well...I guess a LOT of people got their way. But, damn...I miss a lot of the POSITIVE things that Glen Mason teams used to do. Of course there were weaknesses...of course they let some games get away...be stolen from them. BUT we haven't seen anything to match or really come close to what those Mason teams could do on offense.

I know...there is offense and there is defense and there are special teams. Certainly you can criticize many things....but you can NOT really criticize EVERYTHING.

I really am rooting for Coach Kill to get us back to that Mason level AND beyond. Will he accomplish it? I don't know...but I sure hope so.

But, don't go trying to mess with the GREAT memories I have from the Mason Era. It was most certainly not all great...BUT what was GREAT really was GREAT. Quite frankly I have missed a LOT about those Glen Mason Coached Days. So a pox on anyone who tries to paint EVERYTHING in negative terms from that period of time...

Here is hoping Jerry Kill can get us a little closer to the Mason Era in 2013... Boys and girls...we simply HAVE to keep this fair and balanced...

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[Gopher Bandanna Guy]

So tired of this 'know your place, Minnesota' attitude we are getting barraged with these days. I guess everyone but Gopher fans are tired of the status quo. Shame on us.

I would rather continually try and strike gold with that magic coaching hire that eventually wins us a conference title, than settle for an honorable mention in the middle of the Big Ten. If that means cycling thru coaches every 4-7 years to get there, so be it. I'd rather try, than just settle for crap bowls, and a sub-.500 Big Ten record.

 

[GoGophers2005]

I don't think anyone is trashing Mason. I don't think there are too many people that can question how well he did compared to the coaches who came before and after him. But you can't ignore some of the let downs that happened either.

In hindsight Mason should have taken this team into TCF Bank and then have been evaluated after a couple of seasons.

I also say f you to all these people telling us who we can and can't fire or who we can and can't hire. Minnesota is B10 and one of the largest universities in the of country. Put the right pieces together and there shouldn't be any reason why we can't be great in football and hoops.

 

[EE_Gopher]

I would say it was the #1 worst fire/hire sequences in history.

 

[Gopherdrummer]

Most outsiders don't realize that a lot of the U's administrators really didn't like Mason that much. The Insight Bowl meltdown was basically the last straw. From what I heard, the guy treated a lot of his co-workers outside of football like garbage, and didn't really seem to have a passion to be here anymore. At some point in the real world, if you can't have a good working relationship with someone, you let them go. Sometimes even with "winning" records.

Of course, leave it to the incompetent abilities of Maturi to make the worst hire you could have done at the time. He thought of how he could save money rather than add value in the long run by hiring a quality coach.

 

[GeniusGopher]

So tired of this 'know your place, Minnesota' attitude we are getting barraged with these days. I guess everyone but Gopher fans are tired of the status quo. Shame on us.

I would rather continually try and strike gold with that magic coaching hire that eventually wins us a conference title, than settle for an honorable mention in the middle of the Big Ten. If that means cycling thru coaches every 4-7 years to get there, so be it. I'd rather try, than just settle for crap bowls, and a sub-.500 Big Ten record.

Exactly! The thing with Mason was we knew where the ceiling was. Beat up a bunch of creampuffs in the non-conference, win most of the winnable Big Ten games, and suprise one victory every now and then. So what?

Mason was not a "hot girlfriend". A hot girlfriend would have been regular Rose Bowls. Mason was more like the average looking girlfriend with a few flaws: you're happy to get some head regularly, but you're not about to brag about her to anyone.

 

[MRJ]

Such a terrible firing that not 1 school has even seriously entertained the idea of hiring him.

They are confusing "bad firing" with "bad hiring".

My feelings exactly.

 

[50PoundHead]

I don't think anyone is trashing Mason. I don't think there are too many people that can question how well he did compared to the coaches who came before and after him. But you can't ignore some of the let downs that happened either.

In hindsight Mason should have taken this team into TCF Bank and then have been evaluated after a couple of seasons.

I also say f you to all these people telling us who we can and can't fire or who we can and can't hire. Minnesota is B10 and one of the largest universities in the of country. Put the right pieces together and there shouldn't be any reason why we can't be great in football and hoops.

I supported the firing of Mason and was hopeful (with hopes quickly dashed) with the Brewster hire. Maturi hires the right guy and we don't even have a whiff of this debate. I equate Mason with Tubby. He had played out his string. Frankly, I would have fired him the year before when he became a drama queen over his contract extension. Sure, we had some nice performances from individual players during the Mason era and one really fine season, but the rest of it kind of melts into a big pile of vanilla mediocrity. Plus, the team was woefully undisciplined during the Mason era. Stupid mistake after stupid mistake (of course, that went on for a couple of decades before he got here and continued with his immediate predecessor, so I'm not going to level him for that) that cost teams ball games.

For me, the jury is out on Kill, but at least he appears to demand discipline and is willing to try a few things outside the box. Some of it works and some of it doesn't and I think he should get a full five years to see how things go. I'm hoping for an Iowa level program under Ferentz (without the wacko training staff and off-the-field shenanigans) where we are consistently tough/disciplined and have a few years with a performance spike that gets us into a big-time bowl.

 

[dpodoll68]

He thought of how he could save money rather than add value in the long run by hiring a quality coach.

A. Why on Earth do you presume that his main concern when hiring Brewster was to save money?

B. Who do you think sets the budget for the amount that the AD is allowed to offer? Do you think he has the autonomy to just offer as much or as little as he wants?

 

[mplsbadger]

Ok...IF and WHEN...mostly IF the Gophers get back to turning out All-Americans and ALL Big Ten players and the NEXT time they EVER go 10-3...and IF they ever beat Michigan or Ohio State and have a nice string of wins against Oregon, Arkansas and Alabama, MSU, Penn State, wisky again then you can try to get on your high horses about how horrible Mason was. BUT, until the day comes when Minnesota Football is as much of all those things as it was under Mason, I think you need to be reminded that you are trying entirely too hard to TRASH and BASH the BEST multi-year string memories of being a Gopher Fan I have had since some of the good years of the last half of Warmath's tenure here, some of the Stoll years and a couple of Guttey years when the team got a bowl game.

I am really rooting for Coach Kill to get us back to the level of play Mason had achieved. And, I sincerely hope he can go busting through the Mason levels and surpass them. BUT, until I see that happen, to have you people try to trash what I firmly believe was a really well-balanced time to be a Gopher Fan...when I used to LOVE to go on Big Ten Road trips. I saw wins in Ann Arbor, Columbus, Champaign, iowa city, Evanston, East Lansing. I saw wins in El Paso (Oregon), Nashville (Arkansas, Alabama). I saw home wins against Purdue, Illinois, iowa, wisky, Penn State, Northwestern, Indiana and Michigan State.

Yes, I saw those losses. But, in my book it was good to have been competitive enough against Michigan and wisky, NU, Purdue and that Texas Tech team in 2006 had given Texas all they could handle and I believe had defeated Oklahoma. That was one hell of a potent Texas Tech offense. Sure those losses hurt...but...at least our Gophers took a shot at those bad guys from Michigan, wisky, etc.

So, UNTIL someone does better for a TEN YEAR STRETCH as our coach...I think it is totally foolish of you people to try to totally trash and bash Coach Mason, his players and MY good memories of loving to go to road games because there really WAS a possibility that the Gophers might come away with a win.

And, I LOVED watching some of those All-American players...All-Big Ten players and those offensive lines...and those running backs.

Well...I guess a LOT of people got their way. But, damn...I miss a lot of the POSITIVE things that Glen Mason teams used to do. Of course there were weaknesses...of course they let some games get away...be stolen from them. BUT we haven't seen anything to match or really come close to what those Mason teams could do on offense.

I know...there is offense and there is defense and there are special teams. Certainly you can criticize many things....but you can NOT really criticize EVERYTHING.

I really am rooting for Coach Kill to get us back to that Mason level AND beyond. Will he accomplish it? I don't know...but I sure hope so.

But, don't go trying to mess with the GREAT memories I have from the Mason Era. It was most certainly not all great...BUT what was GREAT really was GREAT. Quite frankly I have missed a LOT about those Glen Mason Coached Days. So a pox on anyone who tries to paint EVERYTHING in negative terms from that period of time...

Here is hoping Jerry Kill can get us a little closer to the Mason Era in 2013... Boys and girls...we simply HAVE to keep this fair and balanced...

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Well said Wren. I agree with your take but not the authors. There is no ceiling at Minnesota. I'd have liked to see if Mason could have broken through at TCF with a better budget for assistants.

 

[vagopher]

So tired of this 'know your place, Minnesota' attitude we are getting barraged with these days. I guess everyone but Gopher fans are tired of the status quo. Shame on us.

I would rather continually try and strike gold with that magic coaching hire that eventually wins us a conference title, than settle for an honorable mention in the middle of the Big Ten. If that means cycling thru coaches every 4-7 years to get there, so be it. I'd rather try, than just settle for crap bowls, and a sub-.500 Big Ten record.

+1

 

[imthewalrus]

xyz

wren's way up there on the high road right now...

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[Monty519]

I would say it was the #1 worst fire/hire sequences in history.

The hiring is what made the firing look so incredibly horrible. What if Gary Patterson had come here? I think we'd be looking at things quite differently, I'm guessing. But you know, that's how things went with the previous administration, a whole lot of mess. I can only hope that the new crew in here has a little more going for it.

 

[short ornery norwegian]

I think (or at least I have the perception) that Mason's biggest problems were off the field. He just didn't seem to be interested in promoting the program. He refused to take calls on his WCCO radio segment; he seemed to disappear in the off-season; and he didn't seem to have very good relationships with the local media (outside of Sid.)
I've also heard rumors over the years about some kind of an incident at that final bowl game - don't know the details - where Mason had some kind of an argument with some boosters and/or administrators.

Compare that to Kill, who seems to be much more open about promoting the program - doing speaking engagements; interacting with students on campus; and he's been doing a short segment with Sid every Sunday morning. It may not be that informative, but at least he's on the radio talking about Gopher FB.

In retrospect, I think the off-field and personality issues have colored how people perceive Mason. A coach with the same on-field results, but a more engaging personality, would still be coaching here.

 

[50PoundHead]

I think (or at least I have the perception) that Mason's biggest problems were off the field. He just didn't seem to be interested in promoting the program. He refused to take calls on his WCCO radio segment; he seemed to disappear in the off-season; and he didn't seem to have very good relationships with the local media (outside of Sid.)
I've also heard rumors over the years about some kind of an incident at that final bowl game - don't know the details - where Mason had some kind of an argument with some boosters and/or administrators.

Compare that to Kill, who seems to be much more open about promoting the program - doing speaking engagements; interacting with students on campus; and he's been doing a short segment with Sid every Sunday morning. It may not be that informative, but at least he's on the radio talking about Gopher FB.

In retrospect, I think the off-field and personality issues have colored how people perceive Mason. A coach with the same on-field results, but a more engaging personality, would still be coaching here.

I have heard similar things, but have absolutely no idea if they are true or not. I hate to keep belaboring the Tubby comparison, but I think it's apt. The program had little if any buzz under Mason. Like Tubby, the Gopher faithful felt lucky when Mason took the job, but the thrill subsided at some point. I agree that it would have been interesting to see Mason get to coach at TCF. Maybe that would have elevated the team (and it maybe wouldn't have).

 

[imthewalrus]

wren was here...You'll find him way up on the high road...

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[Killjoy]

wren - you were doing so well here since you returned but I am afraid your campaign for sainthood for Glen isn't going to work this time either. Even though Glen did let you carry his suitcase once, he like all us is flawed. His flaws are pretty well know to most people, i.e not liking recruiting and promoting the program. You certainly can choose not to recognize this but sainthood for him is not in the cards unless he does something miraculous this Sunday.

 

[highwayman]

I've also heard rumors over the years about some kind of an incident at that final bowl game - don't know the details - where Mason had some kind of an argument with some boosters and/or administrators.

There were three incidents, two that I saw, one that I saw the collateral damage.

#1 was at Nashville in 2005. We were at the rally at the stadium club room. Mason was supposed to come out at fire up the legions. 15 minutes go by, then 30. They brought out Darrell Thompson to tell some stories to fill the time and I think we sang the rouser three times. Finally, after about 40 minutes, Mase, Maturi, and Bruininks come out of a side room. Mason and Bruininks are beet-red and it was obvious that there had been some shouting that had been going on. Mase spoke for about a minute and left. This was in the midst of his contract negotiation.

#2 was at Tempe/Phoenix the next year. We went to a rally downtown the day before the game. Mase gave the strangest, rambling speech. He touched on everything from lack of support from the fans and administration, to bad press and crappy Arizona weather. A lot of us thought he was drunk.

#3 was the next day at the rally on the Minnesota Plaza at Sun Devil stadium. Bruininks and other U luminaries spoke, lastly Harvey McKay. McKay gave his usual go-go spiel, but talked of Mason in almost past-tense. I distinctly remember him saying the line "new leadership" at least twice. A lot of us thought he was referring to a new coach. That was bizarre. I figure Mase had crapped on Harvey.

 

[imthewalrus]

BleedGopher: what have you done?

per the link:

The 5 worst firings over the past 10 years in college football

There's been some good decisions when it comes to new coaches being hired & fired over the past ten years, and some bad decisions. I arrived at this list with 5 criteria: What was the state of the program before the coach arrived at the particular school? How successful was the coach had at the school? How was the team's competition? What was the aftermath of the decision/how did the school do after they fired him?, and lastly, how has the coach followed up with his new job(s) after he was fired?

2.) Minnesota - Glen Mason:

Former Buckeye Linebacker Glen Mason is the like the hot girlfriend you break up with, because you think you can find a hotter girl. Then one day it sinks in that you screwed up royally, and didn't realize how good you had it until she's gone. You're left face down on a cold floor, borderline passed out, quasi-depressed, surrounded by empty bottles of Stroh's, with the Counting Crows August and Everything After cd playing in he background...and she's gone for good. And you'd pay the devil to replace her. Or Tim Brewster.

Okay, maybe it's not that bad. But, Mason was about as good as it's going to get for the Golden Gophers in this day and age, (see Tubby Smith). Mason was a solid coach who built a respected program. A program predicated on strong offensive line play, with an even stronger running game. This was the right approach for the Big Ten. Minnesota's rush offense was always highly-ranked under Mason. In 2003, for just the 30th time in college football history, the Gophers had 2 running backs with at least 1,000 yards each in the same season: Marion Barber III and Laurence Maroney. Both RBs went on to the NFL. Mason led the Gophers to an overall 38-25 record his last 5 seasons at the helm. But on the last day of 2006, following an epic meltdown in the Insight Bowl against Texas Tech where the Gophers blew a 38-7 third-quarter league to lost the game 41-44 in overtime, Mason was fired. At the time I really thought this was an emotional, knee-jerk reaction by the Minnesota powers-that-be.

Minnesota has to swallow the pill that, for the time being at least, they have a ceiling. Mason and his success was about as good as it was going to get. With Ohio State, M*chigan, Penn State, and other B1G squads to battle with, Minnesota was never going to be a favorite to win the conference. They really haven't been in decades, (haven't won the conference since 1967), and don't seem to be anytime soon. It's hard to recruit out-of-state players to Minneapolis; especially when Ohio State, M*chigan, and now Nebraska, are in the same conference. With 3 different head coaches since 2007, Minnesota has struggled since firing Mason, going 26-46 since they let him go. It seems that the Gophers may have finally found a guy who can turn the corner though, in Jerry Kill. More important than coaching records is the health of the current Gophers head coach. Hopefully Coach Kill's health can improve, after he's battled various health problems, including a few seizures during games.

Glen Mason has managed to stay away from getting back on the coaching carousel, and continues his job as an analyst for the Big Ten Network. I've always thought he'd make a great Running Backs Coach for Ohio State, or perhaps an Offensive Coordinator or Head Coach somewhere in the BIG or MAC.

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/blogs...gs-over-the-past-10-years-in-college-football

Go Gophers!!

I realize that you don't intend to have this interesting and insightful comment about our former coach become a tool for a certain group of posters to continue their unending campaign to smear this former coach. Read the thread and you can see for yourself what they are ATTEMPTING to do. Someone needs to bring some balance to this board by presenting the facts and the record to counter their haphazardly constructed stories. In other times, I would have been more than happy to carry the water in that regard. However, having my favorite monikers "retired" quite prematurely by order of the rulers of GOPHERHOLE LAND, I am on what you would call a very short-leash.

So, now we have this situation in which this killjoy is attempting to engage me to counter his funny little things that he tries to do. (well. he's really not funny...but he is attempting to draw some sort of response from me.,. I of course find this killjoy to be no one worth even responding to...so of course, I won't. I'll merely laugh at him and his henchmen. They are not worth being voted off the island again for. However, I will ask you to think before you post material that will lead to this rampant Mason bashing that some of your posters are allowed to do. It really is pretty demeaning to this site and is very disrespectful on their parts.

I always take the HIGH ROAD Bleed. I'm counting on you to not post any more Material on Coach Mason because it is not RIGHT that a bunch left over from the brewball disaster should cast stones at Coach Mason.

Thanks for your consideration BleedGopher. You see, it puts me in a very tough situation to have sit back seeing what these very disrespectful people say. I have not been given my freedom to respond and contrast their ill-will and mean-spiritedness.

I really do like this site and value being here...but...this Mason Bashing Stuff is pretty low-rent. I just don't like to see GOPHERHOLE being abused the way some of these people feel they have a license to do...

But, don't worry BleedGopher: I'll NEVER let these ba$hers get me down. I'll continue to take the high road and have fun...

wren

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[Great Plains Gopher]

Minnesota CAN do better than Mason, but firing him at that moment was self-destructive and led to the much worse Brewster hiring. The whole episode was a fiasco, following as it did an expensive renewal of his contract. Overall, it was a huge mistake.

 

[mkAz]

I don't really fault the timing of the Mason firing, it was time for a change. The Brewster hiring on the other hand, not good. Where would we be now had Charlie Strong gotten the job instead of Brewster?