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According to NCPA, starting July 1

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I am not sure what the state governments are trying to do here.

Texas athletes are not NCAA property but if they accept money they aren’t NCAA eligible either. It currently isn’t illegal for a college athlete to accept money, so this changes nothing.
If they accept money they are still ineligible so it changes nothing on that end either.


nice PR tho I guess
 

I assume this is just keeping up with other states with top football programs that already have similar laws in the works or on the books.

Really hope the federal government can step up and make this uniform across all states, instead of a patchwork of laws that could potentially make it an (even more) unlevel field.
 

Some guy said:
I am not sure what the state governments are trying to do here.

Texas athletes are not NCAA property but if they accept money they aren’t NCAA eligible either. It currently isn’t illegal for a college athlete to accept money, so this changes nothing.
If they accept money they are still ineligible so it changes nothing on that end either.


nice PR tho I guess
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And if the NCAA says that's against the rules, Texas (and other states) sue the NCAA, and win big.

The NCAA isn't stupid. It doesn't want to get dissolved into oblivion.
 

MplsGopher said:
And if the NCAA says that's against the rules, Texas (and other states) sue the NCAA, and win big.

The NCAA isn't stupid. It doesn't want to get dissolved into oblivion.
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Yep, the NCAA ultimately will have no power to govern this. Like you said, they're not stupid, they will give in.
 


Gophers1992 said:
Yep, the NCAA ultimately will have no power to govern this. Like you said, they're not stupid, they will give in.
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The NCAA only has the power to do what their voting members want them to do.
 

What is going on with college sports? They are politicizing it for the benefit of a few elite athletes at the expense of the greater team. What a joy it will be with advertising pollution on the uniforms which will be next if greedy athletes think they aren't making enough.

Attention governors: leave our college sports alone. Is SOTUS going to step in and strip the NCAA of their Amatuer status?

What a freaking mess.
 
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Gophers1992 said:
Yep, the NCAA ultimately will have no power to govern this. Like you said, they're not stupid, they will give in.
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I don't understand why they are powerless. People are agreeing to be a part of the NCAA, are they not? If the schools voluntarily agree to play by the rules of not paying the athletes, with the penalty of being kicked out of the NCAA for breaking said rule, what's illegal about that? Unless the implication is that schools will leave the NCAA?
 



MplsGopher_fan said:
I don't understand why they are powerless. People are agreeing to be a part of the NCAA, are they not? If the schools voluntarily agree to play by the rules of not paying the athletes, with the penalty of being kicked out of the NCAA for breaking said rule, what's illegal about that? Unless the implication is that schools will leave the NCAA?
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Yeah. If Texas players take money, they’ll be ncaa ineligible without the ncaa changing the rules.

Texas can’t just sue the ncaa to change the rules. It would have to happen via national legislation Or by an ncaa rule change which May or may not have the votes
 

Just another reason to start a Junior Football and Junior Basketball League.
 

I didn't know it was illegal before.

So now it's not a crime for college athletes in Texas to receive money for their name, image, and likeness but if they do, the NCAA can and will still stop them from playing. Other than laying groundwork for when the NCAA changes their rules this doesn't do much of anything.
 

GoGophersUMN said:
I didn't know it was illegal before.

So now it's not a crime for college athletes in Texas to receive money for their name, image, and likeness but if they do, the NCAA can and will still stop them from playing. Other than laying groundwork for when the NCAA changes their rules this doesn't do much of anything.
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This is how I would see it as well. As long as taking money is an NCAA violation it doesn't matter what an individual state decides to do with their laws.
 



MNVCGUY said:
This is how I would see it as well. As long as taking money is an NCAA violation it doesn't matter what an individual state decides to do with their laws.
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Correct. And it actually doesn’t change anything at all, because profiting of their own likeness was already legal. And it already wouldn’t get them expelled from school.
 

This is mostly grandstanding supported by those that can possibly make money from this.

If they cared about the players, legislation for lifetime health insurance coverage for injuries would be a good place to start.
 

www.usatoday.com

NCAA unveils proposed rules changes related to athletes' name, image and likeness

College athletes would gain new abilities to make money from the use of their name, image and likeness, beginning Aug. 1 under a series of proposals.
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Some further context; good background article. NCAA seems pretty far down the road on permitting players to sell name and image, but with caps and limitations. There is federal legislation proposed that would go much further than the NCAA—no caps or limitations. Some Congresspersons want to make college athletes actual employees of their college or university, which will have huge secondary legal consequences. The amateur student athlete edifice might crumble this year, and nobody really knows what the new regime will look like. Maybe a few Minnesota players will be able to afford a car on par with the ones every player on Alabama already has!
 

Gophergrandpa said:
www.usatoday.com

NCAA unveils proposed rules changes related to athletes' name, image and likeness

College athletes would gain new abilities to make money from the use of their name, image and likeness, beginning Aug. 1 under a series of proposals.
www.usatoday.com
Some further context; good background article. NCAA seems pretty far down the road on permitting players to sell name and image, but with caps and limitations. There is federal legislation proposed that would go much further than the NCAA—no caps or limitations. Some Congresspersons want to make college athletes actual employees of their college or university, which will have huge secondary legal consequences. The amateur student athlete edifice might crumble this year, and nobody really knows what the new regime will look like. Maybe a few Minnesota players will be able to afford a car on par with the ones every player on Alabama already has!
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The federal bills won’t get much traction this session. But just getting them introduced, increases their their chances.
 


Those saying the NCAA has the power: so you're telling me that the NCAA is going to tell OU, Texas, USC, Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, Clemson, etc. "hey sorry guys, we know your states have laws saying that's legal, but that's actually against our rules! You're ineligible in football now" ?

How long do you think it would take the FBS conferences + a few top bball confs to announce that they're leaving the NCAA and forming a new association? I'd say less than a week for sure, maybe a day or two.
 

Assuming the NFL and NBA eliminate their age restrictions, if a kid wants cash he can go pro. If a kid wants a free education, play college athletics and be a part of something we all dreamed about as high school athletes, colleges are holding your seat. College athletics is flooded with kids that want nothing to do with academics.

Is it any coincidence that the state with a public university with underperforming programs that has one of the highest college AD budgets is progressing this idea? The NBA has already suffered a significant drop in their ratings due to the formation of “super teams”. College football won’t be far behind if it becomes an open market.
 

Gophergrandpa said:
www.usatoday.com

NCAA unveils proposed rules changes related to athletes' name, image and likeness

College athletes would gain new abilities to make money from the use of their name, image and likeness, beginning Aug. 1 under a series of proposals.
www.usatoday.com
Some further context; good background article. NCAA seems pretty far down the road on permitting players to sell name and image, but with caps and limitations. There is federal legislation proposed that would go much further than the NCAA—no caps or limitations. Some Congresspersons want to make college athletes actual employees of their college or university, which will have huge secondary legal consequences. The amateur student athlete edifice might crumble this year, and nobody really knows what the new regime will look like. Maybe a few Minnesota players will be able to afford a car on par with the ones every player on Alabama already has!
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Yeah. NCAA rule changes are what will change things. Legislation from state legislatures changes nothing
 

MplsGopher said:
Those saying the NCAA has the power: so you're telling me that the NCAA is going to tell OU, Texas, USC, Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, Clemson, etc. "hey sorry guys, we know your states have laws saying that's legal, but that's actually against our rules! You're ineligible in football now" ?
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Yes, that's exactly what I'd expect them to say. And then those teams can sit at home and watch the CFP. Plus I'd expect the NCAA to tell schools that if you play Texas, etc that even if you win, it's going to be counted as a no-contest, so then Oklahoma wouldn't be 12-0, they'd be 9-0 because the games against Texas schools (Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech) don't count. And if Oklahoma missed out on the CFP because their 9-0 record got passed over for some 12-0 team, then the Big 12 would just kick the Texas schools out and replace them with compliant schools.
 

MplsGopher_fan said:
Yes, that's exactly what I'd expect them to say. And then those teams can sit at home and watch the CFP.
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I'd rather the NCAA change its rules, than for the top teams to leave the NCAA.

You're dreaming if you really believe they won't. That's my opinion
 

MplsGopher said:
How long do you think it would take the FBS conferences + a few top bball confs to announce that they're leaving the NCAA and forming a new association? I'd say less than a week for sure, maybe a day or two.
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The announcement might not take long, but the logistics of it would. And college football would survive just fine without them. We don't watch/cheer for the athletes, we watch/cheer for the school. Since it's next to impossible to find high school kids ready for the NFL, I'll use basketball for my analogy. March Madness will still be just as great/popular if the 20 or so best high school seniors went straight to the pros every year.
 

MplsGopher said:
I'd rather the NCAA change its rules, than for the top teams to leave the NCAA.

You're dreaming if you really believe they won't. That's my opinion
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But who would watch? Even if 10 schools decided to do this, who's going to watch those same 10 schools play each other in a 9 game season or whatever when their own school now has a chance to win the conference and go to the CFP? No one outside of those schools' fans would care, and the interest might wane quickly if they're playing a shorter season and aren't a part of the CFP or any bowl games.

It's like the NBA D-league, they aren't drawing fans away from March Madness.
 

MplsGopher_fan said:
And college football would survive just fine without them.
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Most or all of FBS would break off into its own association. That would continue to thrive, and I would continue to watch the Gophers play in that new standalone group.

The remainder of DI football in the NCAA would be the same thing as what FCS now. They'd probably just rebrand it as "NCAA Division I". And it would continue to receive the same interest as DII and DIII receive.


So your comment here doesn't really make any sense.
 

MplsGopher_fan said:
But who would watch? Even if 10 schools decided to do this, who's going to watch those same 10 schools play each other in a 9 game season or whatever when their own school now has a chance to win the conference and go to the CFP?
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No, no, no.

The base unit of college athletics, at least at the top level, is the conference. At a very minimum, the P5 would break away (plus Notre Dame), probably take the Big East and maybe a couple other bball confs with them too.
 

MplsGopher said:
Most or all of FBS would break off into its own association. That would continue to thrive, and I would continue to watch the Gophers play in that new standalone group.

The remainder of DI football in the NCAA would be the same thing as what FCS now. They'd probably just rebrand it as "NCAA Division I". And it would continue to receive the same interest as DII and DIII receive.


So your comment here doesn't really make any sense.
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Re: the first bolded, that's just your assumption, isn't it? Do you really think the Wake Forests and Virginia, and even our beloved Gophs, and similar programs, would want to get involved in that arms race of a league? I'm not an expert on the leadership of the U of M, but I did go there for quite a number of years and I'm not convinced the regents would just sign off on us having a semi-pro team. Certain faculty/admin probably don't even want us competing in big time sports as it is.

Re: the second bolded, it makes sense if we take away your assumption.
 

MplsGopher said:
No, no, no.

The base unit of college athletics, at least at the top level, is the conference. At a very minimum, the P5 would break away (plus Notre Dame), probably take the Big East and maybe a couple other bball confs with them too.
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Again, isn't this your assumption? I'm sure Nebraska would leap at the chance because paying players is their only real path back to success. I just don't see all the schools wanting to embrace having these players as employees. Far more issues once you "employ" someone formally.
 

Anyone else feel like we are watching a split personality argue with itself in this thread? :)
 

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