Teague: What we have to do is establish some great traditions in the stadium

Honestly I am not so sure tailgating is the answer. I am sure it would help to have better tailgating but I don't think that will get more students in the stadium. Tailgating to me is more of a pastime for people who no longer go to school and need a place to party a little before the game. Sure some students may do this too but I don't think it will bring a ton more in. Just allowing people to party and get drunk isn't the answer. All that does is bring people in who want to get drunk and not care about the game. Bringing in uninterested fans who just want to party will just make it obvious that we have mostly uninterested fans. It would be much better to have fans who actually care about the team and want to cheer their a**es off rather than drink, party and carry on with their friends.
 

Honestly I am not so sure tailgating is the answer. I am sure it would help to have better tailgating but I don't think that will get more students in the stadium. Tailgating to me is more of a pastime for people who no longer go to school and need a place to party a little before the game. Sure some students may do this too but I don't think it will bring a ton more in. Just allowing people to party and get drunk isn't the answer. All that does is bring people in who want to get drunk and not care about the game. Bringing in uninterested fans who just want to party will just make it obvious that we have mostly uninterested fans. It would be much better to have fans who actually care about the team and want to cheer their a**es off rather than drink, party and carry on with their friends.

So are you saying that a social hour(s) that precede a civic, corporate or social gathering are held for the sole purpose of promoting debauchery?:rolleyes:
 

Honestly I am not so sure tailgating is the answer. I am sure it would help to have better tailgating but I don't think that will get more students in the stadium. Tailgating to me is more of a pastime for people who no longer go to school and need a place to party a little before the game. Sure some students may do this too but I don't think it will bring a ton more in. Just allowing people to party and get drunk isn't the answer. All that does is bring people in who want to get drunk and not care about the game. Bringing in uninterested fans who just want to party will just make it obvious that we have mostly uninterested fans. It would be much better to have fans who actually care about the team and want to cheer their a**es off rather than drink, party and carry on with their friends.

If the students are near the stadium partying they will be more likely to go into the game.

Honestly this fanbase is going to be shrinking very soon unless Kill has unparalleled success.
You basically saw the "hardcore" fanbase cheering their a**es off at the past 2 season finales, and it was about 25000 gopher fans, maybe 2000 students.
That's not going to be enough to sustain the fanbase or much less grow it.

There needs to be a fundamental change in attitudes up top at the U, where they understand that long term goals need to trump short term budgets and perceptions.

The river flats is great, but it's not near enough to campus to parlay the atmosphere into the game, at least with the students in mind. A centralized location near the stadium would work. Heck even frat row would work if they were allowed to party unhindered.
It's not enough to expect everyone to be dedicated fans right away, maybe 1000 to 2000 students a year actually are in that group, the rest are casual fans that can grow their loyalty with a good time and a good product on the field.

Everyone loves a winner and everyone loves a good time.
 

If the students are near the stadium partying they will be more likely to go into the game.

Honestly this fanbase is going to be shrinking very soon unless Kill has unparalleled success.
You basically saw the "hardcore" fanbase cheering their a**es off at the past 2 season finales, and it was about 25000 gopher fans, maybe 2000 students.
That's not going to be enough to sustain the fanbase or much less grow it.

There needs to be a fundamental change in attitudes up top at the U, where they understand that long term goals need to trump short term budgets and perceptions.

The river flats is great, but it's not near enough to campus to parlay the atmosphere into the game, at least with the students in mind. A centralized location near the stadium would work. Heck even frat row would work if they were allowed to party unhindered.
It's not enough to expect everyone to be dedicated fans right away, maybe 1000 to 2000 students a year actually are in that group, the rest are casual fans that can grow their loyalty with a good time and a good product on the field.

Everyone loves a winner and everyone loves a good time.

And people attract people.
 

Everyone loves a winner and everyone loves a good time.

Exactly why while tailgating will help there still needs to be other things done to improve the overall experience.
 


The U may be an 'autonomous entity' but it is not a sovereign country.

Neither Kaler nor Sid are a Pope.:rolleyes:

It's not a soverign country, but Minneapolis PD has been told multiple times that as far as they are concerned, the U of M campus is private property. This was a result of a massive jurisdiction fight after the 2002 Dinkytown hockey riots. Also, if you ever noticed, Facilities plows campus streets, not the City,
 

Spot on.
I really don't want to spend all week on this topic, but if the city is the main problem then the U needs to lean on the city in the court of public opinion.
Call their bluff and get them to allow tailgating everywherein private lots/loosen up restrictions on parties/open containers, etc.

My bet is the U's upper administration is lock step with the city and that's why there have been no changes made.

There is no reason the U of MN should have to bow down to Minneapolis. Maybe they should contact St. Paul and see if they could be annexed. The U is an autonomous entity right? Why does the city have control of campus?
Again, I think the administration is behind much of the wet blanket, but if not a simple guerrilla campaign in the media would be sufficient to move Minneapolis.

You want to know who makes the decisions about tailgating on private property around the U and the temporary closing of University Avenue for the marching band? Here they are. All zoning decisions and street closings start with the people who run these groups. They will NOT happen without their support. The politicians who represent these areas will NEVER go against the desires of the neighborhood groups and the U will NEVER fight the politicians. End of story.

Official Neighborhoods in the University Community

Marcy-Holmes

Marcy-Holmes is the first neighborhood of Minneapolis. It is named for William L. Marcy and Oliver Wendell Holmes. Its boundaries are the Mississippi River, the University of Minnesota, the East Hennepin/Central Avenue commercial area, and the Como Neighborhood. It is home to the famous commercial district, Dinkytown. It also provides housing for students at the University of Minnesota. Marcy-Holmes is entirely within Minneapolis' and it is currently represented by Diane Hofstede on the Minneapolis City Council.

Prospect Park

Prospect Park is an historic neighborhood within the University community of the U.S. city of Minneapolis, Minnesota. The area is bounded by the Mississippi River to the south, the City of Saint Paul, Minnesota to the east, the Burlington Northern railroad yard to the north, and the Stadium Village commercial district of the University of Minnesota to the west. The neighborhood is composed of several districts which include the East River Road area and it is currently represented by Cam Gordon on the Minneapolis City Council.

University

University is a neighborhood within the greater University community in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It is almost completely occupied by the Minneapolis campus of the University of Minnesota, hence the name. The Mississippi River divides it into two, making it the only official neighborhood in Minneapolis that occupies both sides of the river. On the west bank, the neighborhood is bound by 1st Street on the north, 19th Avenue on the west, 4th Street on the south, and the river to the east. On the east bank, it is bound by the river to the west and south and Oak Street to the east; the northern boundary, going from west to east, is along 11th Avenue, University Avenue, 15th Avenue, and the railroad tracks near 8th Street. It is currently represented by Cam Gordon on the Minneapolis City Council.
 


Isn't that unconstitutional, as in, the U is a self autonomous republic, grand fathered to self govern, and unable to swill beer from a boot.

Nice try, but this doesn't have anything to do with the U's Constitutional Autonomy. The private lots that are being restricted aren't U property.
 



Ding ding ding. These guys hold a lot of power over the student party scene.

F'ing bleep them.
You live next to a college campus. Deal with the consequences.
The U shouldn't have to tip toe around issues like this.
Maybe someone should set up a party next to Mr. Gordon's or Mrs. Hofstede house at 6AM on gamedays. They don't like the noise? Maybe loosen up the restrictions ON CAMPUS and AROUND THE STADIUM.
 

Nice try, but this doesn't have anything to do with the U's Constitutional Autonomy. The private lots that are being restricted aren't U property.

If that is the case, the U should pressure the whole area with Eminent Domainin. I'm sure these people will cooperate sooner rather than later. Not a very nice way to do it. But it will be very useful. I would not mind if the U dips into its billion dollar endowment to buy out all these land around the U. Ironically, it is what the U has been doing since early 1900s.
 

If that is the case, the U should pressure the whole area with Eminent Domainin. I'm sure these people will cooperate sooner rather than later. Not a very nice way to do it. But it will be very useful. I would not mind if the U dips into its billion dollar endowment to buy out all these land around the U. Ironically, it is what the U has been doing since early 1900s.
I'm pretty sure the U doesn't have eminent domain powers. Can't prove that for sure, it's just a strong hunch based on MN Legislature's definition: http://www.leg.state.mn.us/lrl/issues/issues.aspx?issue=eminentdomain
 




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