Teague v Maturi

Norwood knows what he is doing. He is a single man whose life is his job. He is a totally bottom line man and willl put this whole program including womens bb in good shape. It might take 5-10 yrs, but the yrs. under NT will go down in history of U of M as good for athletics. Sit back and have some patiencs. Rome wasn't built in a day or for Doogie a week.
 

What were Maturi's biggest negatives?

You really don't know? His first few years seemed OK. Hockey was winning titles, Mason had the football running smoothly, Monson was being given a long leash, Borton was leading us to Final Fours. Around 2005, the wheels started to come off.

-2005: Dithers around and lets Mason's contract negotiations go down to literally the last minute, then gave him a big extension. Well run programs don't do this.

-2006: Let's it leak that he's firing Monson. It gets reported in the Star Tribune, etc. Then changes his mind for reasons we never find out. Holds the worst press conference of all time to tell us that he would fire him, but it's not all about wins and losses. This was Maturi's single worst moment. Just awful.

-2006: Mason has become unpopular after starting 3-6 before winning 3 in a row. They don't fire him. After losing a bowl game they were expected to lose, they fire him. In January. When all the best coaches have already been hired. Awful timing.

-2007: Hires Tim Brewster. The pickings were slim, but still this was one of the worse BCS football hires this century.

-2009: Trevor Mbakwe has issues. Instead of issuing a clear statement on whether he can or cannot play while it's worked out, he dithers and refuses to make a decision until the last minute. When Royce White gets in trouble too, he takes the safe route and suspends them both. When the Royce White stuff drags out for an unreasonable period of time, he does nothing. Royce has enough and quits. To be clear both Royce and Trevor are at fault. But a strong AD would have acted more decisively at a minimum.

-2011: Makes an awful mess of the football search, starting with promising to make a 'Tubby Smith' hire, getting spotted flying coach to interview coaches, etc. The fact that he may have tripped into the right hire doesn't completely erase the ugliness of the sausage making. Norwood appears to have missed this.

Maturi's biggest flaw was his indecisiveness. If you want to keep Glen Mason, sign him to an extension right away. If you want to fire him, do it the day after the regular season. If the President tells you to do it in an emotional knee-jerk after a Bowl Game, refuse. If a player under a pending charge can't play, let him know immediately, etc.
 

What were Maturi's biggest negatives?

He loved the non-revenue sports but failed to understand it was football, men's hockey and men's basketball that essentially funded all the non-revenue. If you really love non-revenue sports you better have a happy bunch of alumni and nothing says happy alums quite like winning FB and BB. See Stanford.
 

Woody's major moves so far:

-Agrees to an extension for Tubby when it seems apparent he wasn't his biggest fan. It's unclear how far down the road this was and how much cheaper the buyout would have been if it were not done, so he gets a partial pass.

-Agrees to pay $800K to get out of two football games against a middling ACC team. Perhaps too much is made of it, but at the least he vastly underestimated the public response. It was simply not worth the terrible optics.

-Fires Tubby. I'm 50/50 on whether it was the right move, but the decisiveness is appreciated.

-Oversees a coaching search that has some ugly sausage making, at least with regards to the Flip situation. Incomplete, but not off to a great start.
 

You really don't know? His first few years seemed OK. Hockey was winning titles, Mason had the football running smoothly, Monson was being given a long leash, Borton was leading us to Final Fours. Around 2005, the wheels started to come off.

-2005: Dithers around and lets Mason's contract negotiations go down to literally the last minute, then gave him a big extension. Well run programs don't do this.

-2006: Let's it leak that he's firing Monson. It gets reported in the Star Tribune, etc. Then changes his mind for reasons we never find out. Holds the worst press conference of all time to tell us that he would fire him, but it's not all about wins and losses. This was Maturi's single worst moment. Just awful.

-2006: Mason has become unpopular after starting 3-6 before winning 3 in a row. They don't fire him. After losing a bowl game they were expected to lose, they fire him. In January. When all the best coaches have already been hired. Awful timing.

-2007: Hires Tim Brewster. The pickings were slim, but still this was one of the worse BCS football hires this century.

-2009: Trevor Mbakwe has issues. Instead of issuing a clear statement on whether he can or cannot play while it's worked out, he dithers and refuses to make a decision until the last minute. When Royce White gets in trouble too, he takes the safe route and suspends them both. When the Royce White stuff drags out for an unreasonable period of time, he does nothing. Royce has enough and quits. To be clear both Royce and Trevor are at fault. But a strong AD would have acted more decisively at a minimum.

-2011: Makes an awful mess of the football search, starting with promising to make a 'Tubby Smith' hire, getting spotted flying coach to interview coaches, etc. The fact that he may have tripped into the right hire doesn't completely erase the ugliness of the sausage making. Norwood appears to have missed this.

Maturi's biggest flaw was his indecisiveness. If you want to keep Glen Mason, sign him to an extension right away. If you want to fire him, do it the day after the regular season. If the President tells you to do it in an emotional knee-jerk after a Bowl Game, refuse. If a player under a pending charge can't play, let him know immediately, etc.



Oh, I knew about a lot of this, just was very busy with my business for a period of time in there, and wasn't aware of ALL of the details. So thank you for that list.
 


Our football performance during his time here, our B1G and NCAA tournament performance in basketball during his time here, and one of the longer stretches without a tournament win in Gopher hockey history.

So we have this straight

1) the Gophers just completed the 2009 Mariucci Classic
2) were 10-3-5 and ranked third in the country
3) Maturi injects Lucia with a virus that causes Sarcoidosis
4) Lucia doesn't make trip to Grand Forks and Gophers outscored 12-4
5) takes a month to identify what his illness is
5) the team finishes the year 7-10-2 and misses the tournament as Lucia often misses practice, can't drive himself to work, naps frequently in his office which continues into the following season

Is there no limit to Maturi's evil?
 

"-2005: MASON dithers around and lets contract negotiations go down to literally the last minute, then signs a big extension though for roughly $400,000 a year less than he was asking for. Well run programs don't do this."

Oh and the difference between coaching searches is ANY name that was mentioned anywhere in the country was taken as gospel by the board then. Now even if Norwood offers the job to someone live at Halftime during the Final Four, and that guys says "No thanks" loud and clear, dozens of guys will come on here to state that technically, since a contract was presented and torn-up on camera, no offer was made.

There, fixed it. Carry on.
 

"-2005: MASON dithers around and lets contract negotiations go down to literally the last minute, then signs a big extension though for roughly $400,000 a year less than he was asking for. Well run programs don't do this."

There, fixed it. Carry on.

The negotiations were going so well for him for the first 3 quarters.... :cool:
 




Fired Tubby - actually happened. People can make their judgements.

'Blowing the Flip deal' - We don't really know what happened. Too early to judge.

Yes and no imo. We don't know what happened exactly? But we do know he couldn't ink the only sure thing he had going into this. I'd call that blowing it...
 

Yes and no imo. We don't know what happened exactly? But we do know he couldn't ink the only sure thing he had going into this. I'd call that blowing it...

Can't really say if Flip was a sure thing. We don't know if Teague or Flip 'blew it'. Could it have been Teague? Yes, but at this time we don't know exactly what happened, though I'm sure most everyone will line up behind Flip no matter what.
 




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