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Per Charley Walters:

Vikings paying $540,000 for new artificial turf at TCF Bank Stadium after using the Gophers' venue for two seasons.
 






This was part of the original deal. They also wanted the heating coils installed and paid for them.
 

I remember reading something about the NHL being responsible for damaged turf as part of the Stadium Series deal to play in TCF. If the turf is being ripped out anyway, who gives a rat's azs?
 

Schnauzer said:
I remember reading something about the NHL being responsible for damaged turf as part of the Stadium Series deal to play in TCF. If the turf is being ripped out anyway, who gives a rat's azs?
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Probably just part of a standard contract.
 

Ski U Master said:
Probably the manufacturer takes it back and recycles, or it is disposed of. Assuming whoever is putting in the new turf is responsible for removing the old as well.
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Correct, the rubber materials are recycled and produced into new turf.
 



When is the new turf supposed to be installed? What will be done if MN United is to play a season or 2 at TCF, will they replace the turf again when they are done, or just wait until then to replace the current turf?
 

All Golden All Gopher said:
When is the new turf supposed to be installed? What will be done if MN United is to play a season or 2 at TCF, will they replace the turf again when they are done, or just wait until then to replace the current turf?
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Doubt they would replace after MN United. The main reasons for replacement with the Vikings was the heating coils and the desire for the NFL logos/Hashes, although I'm not sure how painting soccer field markings (talking about the lines not MN United logos) would be handled if the football markings are sewn in like the original turf.
 

Ski U Master said:
Doubt they would replace after MN United. The main reasons for replacement with the Vikings was the heating coils and the desire for the NFL logos/Hashes, although I'm not sure how painting soccer field markings (talking about the lines not MN United logos) would be handled if the football markings are sewn in like the original turf.
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I'm not so sure. I don't think there is any team that plays on a field with football markings. I know New England and Seattle both change turf between football and soccer. So I would guess the league wouldn't be big on playing on a field with football markings. They are "Major League" after all. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with if they do play at the Bank for a year.

As far as the old turf, they may try to sell it. Since it's only two years old and can be painted for whatever purpose, it would be perfect for a smaller school (college or high school).
 

Lakeville Goldy said:
I'm not so sure. I don't think there is any team that plays on a field with football markings. I know New England and Seattle both change turf between football and soccer. So I would guess the league wouldn't be big on playing on a field with football markings. They are "Major League" after all. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with if they do play at the Bank for a year.

As far as the old turf, they may try to sell it. Since it's only two years old and can be painted for whatever purpose, it would be perfect for a smaller school (college or high school).
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Taking the rubber infill and sand out of the turf, removing the turf and then reinstallation at another venue would be extremely cost prohibitive.
 



It hasn't been that many years, new turf is nice but was there a need to replace it? Does this kind of artificial turf usually have such a short lifespan?
 

Ski U Master said:
Doubt they would replace after MN United. The main reasons for replacement with the Vikings was the heating coils and the desire for the NFL logos/Hashes, although I'm not sure how painting soccer field markings (talking about the lines not MN United logos) would be handled if the football markings are sewn in like the original turf.
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The Vikings installed the recent turf because the synthetic grass blades were shorter and easier to paint and repaint between the two teams, like what they had at the metro dome. The previous turf at TFC was longer and everything was sewn in.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
It hasn't been that many years, new turf is nice but was there a need to replace it? Does this kind of artificial turf usually have such a short lifespan?
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Paint removal quickly destroys this type of turf. It is actually bad to paint it in the first place. Paint remover even worse. That's why everything is "sewn" in.

Mvgopher said:
Taking the rubber infill and sand out of the turf, removing the turf and then reinstallation at another venue would be extremely cost prohibitive.
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Dead on. In fact, the turf really can't be "reinstalled" at all. Taking it out inherently destroys it.
 

All Golden All Gopher said:
When is the new turf supposed to be installed? What will be done if MN United is to play a season or 2 at TCF, will they replace the turf again when they are done, or just wait until then to replace the current turf?
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Read somewhere that they would do a turf overlay for MLS soccer...artificial, not grass like when Premier League played at TCF. Makes sense b/c of the needed dimensions for the pitch.
 

If ballet dancers practiced on turf, would they develop turf toe?
 

Dr.Don said:
If ballet dancers practiced on turf, would they develop turf toe?
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Serious answer. Pretty sure they can get it no matter the surface on which they practice. Heard it is pretty brutal on the feet, ankles and knees.
 

highwayman said:
Paint removal quickly destroys this type of turf. It is actually bad to paint it in the first place. Paint remover even worse. That's why everything is "sewn" in.
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Yeah I remember running around on it when it was first installed. All the markings looked like they were ... the actual turf, as in the blades them self were white, maroon, gold, whatever they needed to be. Pretty cool because they look really nice that way compared to painted grass even.

Kinda odd that painting and removing is bad for the turf as most cases I'd thinks folks would occasionally want to put down some promotional stuff here and there. Particularly in the larger venues that get multi team use.
 

I checked on the turf for work and was told that they were relocating a "fraction" of the turf (30,000 sq.ft) to a new location for $170,000. I believe only parts of the turf are being replaced. Probably on the areas that were heavily painted and repainted for games.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
I checked on the turf for work and was told that they were relocating a "fraction" of the turf (30,000 sq.ft) to a new location for $170,000. I believe only parts of the turf are being replaced. Probably on the areas that were heavily painted and repainted for games.
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Why would they replace only parts of it if the Vikings are paying for it?
 


Mvgopher said:
Taking the rubber infill and sand out of the turf, removing the turf and then reinstallation at another venue would be extremely cost prohibitive.
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I have a tough time believing that when the cities I mentioned do exactly that between every MLS game and football game. AT&T Stadium has three different sets of turf they put down, one for NFL, one for college/HS, one for soccer. The college one is made for painting.
 

So what do they do with the heating elements now? Are the gophers planning to still use them late in the session?
 

Ski U Master said:
Doubt they would replace after MN United. The main reasons for replacement with the Vikings was the heating coils and the desire for the NFL logos/Hashes, although I'm not sure how painting soccer field markings (talking about the lines not MN United logos) would be handled if the football markings are sewn in like the original turf.
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The only permanent lines on the current turf were the perimeter, 5 yard lines, goal lines, sideline hash marks, and MINNESOTA in end zones. All other markings were painted to fit level of play.
 

AF_Howie_2180 said:
So what do they do with the heating elements now? Are the gophers planning to still use them late in the session?
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Field can be frozen or at least we can get snow accumulation the last few games. I'm sure it will be turned on.
 

I still vote for this :)

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Gopher028 said:
I still vote for this :)

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If we're getting new turf, I say make it white with green lines instead of green with white lines -- everyone outside of Minnesota thinks there's always snow on the ground anyways, so go with the image -- make snow year-round for our field. Maybe we can do like they did for the NHL game, bring in some fake snowbanks for the sidelines too.
 


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