STrib: Moses Alipate and wide receiver Victor Keise have joined Ed O'Bannon's lawsuit

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MadtownGopher said:
If players like Alipate deserve a cut from EA I'm not sure EA (or anyone else) would be able to make a college football video game. Maybe that is better though since so many people think these players are being taken advantage of...

I don't want to get in an argument with anyone, but between free tuition and almost endless connections that payoff after college, college football and basketball players have it very good. I'm not sure I'll ever be in favor of paying college athletes.
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Well, the NCAA did just cut ties with EA Sports. So if they want to continue to make games it will either have to be by making deals with schools directly or making a game using names like college station and fake players.


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaa-stop-putting-name-logo-190623171--spt.html
 

EA and other video game makers pay the player's unions when they make professional sports games. There is really no reason they can't play those in college sports.
 


Let's be real guys. Alipate is just pissed that he looks so fat in the video game, and Victor was told there would be free booze if he joined.

I remember the days when college athletes thought it was awesome that they were in a freaking video game... Now they want a cut.
 



Seriously? These two clowns get a $120K or more education (five years for both of them!!) in exchange for "playing" football. Seems like they both made out like bandits on that deal already and they have the balls to join this suit. Silly, and embarrassing for both of them. It won't happen now because of the fear of it looking like retaliation, but I wish Jerry had nudged/kicked them out the door at the end of last season when it was clear that they'd never, ever contribute a down of decent play to the team.

Overall, it's part of the deal that these kids sign up for. You come to play football for us we'll pay your tuition, feed you, provide you with lodging and you can live a pretty good life for the time you're at our institution. Whatever else the U does with their likeness, etc. goes into their ability to provide the athlete with tuition, food, lodging, etc. which is more than fair. Seems like they could just change the scholarship tender to include a waiver of rights for anything other than those things specifically included in said tender.
 

MadtownGopher said:
Yes, through the Players' Union I believe. Madden has to pay the Union for the right to use their names.
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In C.B.C. Distribution v. Major League Baseball it was ruled that compensation or licensing was not required for for a fantasy sports game to use the names and statistics of baseball players as the players did not have rights of publicity to their names and stats. Madden could likely use the players names without a deal with the players union, and sports game have used real rosters without a deal with the players association since this ruling.

Madden does pay as in addition to names they use the players pictures and likeness.
 

The thing that worries me is if O'Bannon's class action wins against the NCAA. This could be crippling to the NCAA and to College Athletic Departments. There are going to tens if not hundred of thousands of people who could be open to receive compensation.
 

I wonder if we are heading towards the end of athletic scholarships. If you play for a revenue producing team (football and basketball), you will get paid something. If you play Soccer, you have to pay your own way. I think that would have to be the tradeoff if football and basketball players were to get paid.
 



If the NCAA loses the suit, they might just shut down. Jim D says that the B1G could secede from the NCAA anyhow. This would probably be the straw that breaks the camels back.
 

Dubay was ranting about the gall of Alipate to expect something given he never sniffed the field - called it a big time $ grab...I must say it is kind of a joke - wasn't he on scholly at the U?

Who's next - Alex Daniels? :)
 

MadtownGopher said:
I wonder if we are heading towards the end of athletic scholarships. If you play for a revenue producing team (football and basketball), you will get paid something. If you play Soccer, you have to pay your own way. I think that would have to be the tradeoff if football and basketball players were to get paid.
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Title IX down the $%^&-er.
 

Isn't there a line in the document they sign that says they surrender their likeness to the institution? I may be mistaken, but I thought that was discussed here just a little while ago.

Now, if the suit brings us the idea that the language is faulty, that may be a different point, but I'm out of my depth there. Well....here too.
 



What was Alipate's playing weight in the game? It it's under 285, his likeness isn't even in the game
 


IDFM said:
The thing that worries me is if O'Bannon's class action wins against the NCAA. This could be crippling to the NCAA and to College Athletic Departments. There are going to tens if not hundred of thousands of people who could be open to receive compensation.
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JMWZ said:
If the NCAA loses the suit, they might just shut down. Jim D says that the B1G could secede from the NCAA anyhow. This would probably be the straw that breaks the camels back.
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It will be years and years and years before this suit has a conclusion. Even if it goes in favor of them, the players will receive pennies. This is a class-action suit. The lawyers will get 80% of the money. It's a joke.
 

mattw1067 said:
Even more interesting, Alipate and Keise literally aren't even in the game. Here's a link to a good Daily Gopher article about it http://www.thedailygopher.com/2013/...tball-victor-keise-and-moses-alipate-named-as
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Keise is on the roster that I play with. People go in and use the names of actual rosters to customize rosters. Maybe the player who was supposed to represent Keise isn't on the original release, there are probably hundreds (if not more) of users who play with rosters that include his name.
 

Breakin' The Plane said:
I don't totally understand the lawsuit. EA releases the game with the schools, but no college players are in the game when it's released. For example, the Gophers starting QB might be a So. who wears #9, but his name isn't Phil Nelson. Sometimes they look a little like the player, sometimes not at all. PS3 or Xbox users make thousands of edits to the game in order to achieve more realistic rosters.
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They don't use the names, so that's one factor down. Another is that the video game player looking like the actual player. EA could just stop trying to make the player look like the actual player. Then there are the player's stats, but this is fairly weak. Someone could say "Those stats are as much me as is my appearance and name", but that is highly subjective and questionable. I suppose you could make a case that using the number identifies the player; everyone knows that #8 for Lower Podunk State on offense is John Doe.

If they really had to, EA could just include rosters of entirely fake players, and then have people get rosters of real players from a third party.

Rodney's Open said:
Well, the NCAA did just cut ties with EA Sports. So if they want to continue to make games it will either have to be by making deals with schools directly or making a game using names like college station and fake players.


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaa-stop-putting-name-logo-190623171--spt.html
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"The NCAA said it won't seek a new contract with EA Sports, which manufactures the popular game, beyond the current one that expires in June 2014. However, that won't stop EA Sports from producing a college football video game depicting powerhouse schools like Alabama, Ohio State and Oregon, and the Redwood City, Calif.-based company made that clear Wednesday."

So, it looks like the NCAA won't prevent EA from making a college football game, but are essentially washing their hands of it. Without it being licensed by the NCAA, anyone suing would have to sue EA instead. It just seems it isn't worth the bother for the NCAA, what they gain from licensing the game isn't worth the hassle.
 

Maybe it is just a case of some scholarship players have too much bench time on their hands?
 


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