STrib: Jerry Kill, Tracy Claeys will share $50K bowl-game bonus; Neb not paying Riley

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Spoofin said:
Essentially they are getting this bonus for turning academics around on this team. I'm ok with that. Bottom Line: it was in the contract.
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I don't know about that - don't they (at least the HC) often have a separate bonus for academic metrics such as APR? That's pretty arbitrary - if Mizzou hadn't declined then the U's APR would have not been good enough.
 

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Catechol said:
I don't know about that - don't they (at least the HC) often have a separate bonus for academic metrics such as APR? That's pretty arbitrary - if Mizzou hadn't declined then the U's APR would have not been good enough.
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Actually, if Mizz would have accepted our APR would still likely have been good enough. Quick Lane could have chosen between us and San Jose.

I don't know about the rest of what you said. Could be. Bottom Line to me is still that it was in their contract. Not much else to debate, IMO.
 

I think that the U is doing the right thing by honoring the contracts. The language in these contracts tends to be fairly standard and gets repeated year after year and contract after contract without much scrutiny. While there was certainly some history of teams with less than “bowl eligible” records making it to bowl games, it doesn’t surprise me that no one thought to go back to the bonus language and make a change. I expect that schools will look closer at when/if they want to pay bonuses like these now that it has come to the forefront.

Besides, with the rates that the U pays its lawyers, it probably would have cost more to re-draft the bonus provisions than it will to simply pay the bonuses! :p
 

I was surprised how small the bonus was for Kill/Caeys and that it was the same for all bowls other than the Rose or the playoff. I could see Nebraska saying that they would turn down the bowl rather than paying over $400,000 in bonuses and Riley agreed to go to a bowl instead of getting the bonus.
 


The best scenario is for Claeys/Kill to donate the amount to the Epilepsy Foundation. Yes it is in their contract and no regular people would not turn down bonus' . However in looking how the year went beating only 2 low level B1G Ten teams does not warrant a reward. Donate the money and go get a bowl win
 

Spoofin said:
Essentially they are getting this bonus for turning academics around on this team. I'm ok with that. Bottom Line: it was in the contract.
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This is what most are losing site of, the bonus is more for turning the academics around not the lack of success this season record had. It is in the contract that the bonus is given for reaching a bowl game, doesn't have language that specifies contract language that states "must have winning record." IF the U wanted that they should have put the contract language in that say's so.

Media types like Barrierio and Judd and Zulgad said the coaches should donate the money to the facility's campaign, I'm not inclined to tell these guys how to spend their money. Like it or not, they get the money does not matter all of the wasted talk about it.
 

gopherdudepart2 said:
This is what most are losing site of, the bonus is more for turning the academics around not the lack of success this season record had. It is in the contract that the bonus is given for reaching a bowl game, doesn't have language that specifies contract language that states "must have winning record." IF the U wanted that they should have put the contract language in that say's so.

Media types like Barrierio and Judd and Zulgad said the coaches should donate the money to the facility's campaign, I'm not inclined to tell these guys how to spend their money. Like it or not, they get the money does not matter all of the wasted talk about it.
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You can try and spin that its about the academics side of this but the bonus is for strictly making a bowl game. From what I understand there is separate language in contracts with regards to bonuses based on academic performance. Unlikely if 5-7 teams weren't eligible for bowl invites the U's administration pays out a making a bowl bonus because of the high APR.
 

scools12 said:
You can try and spin that its about the academics side of this but the bonus is for strictly making a bowl game. From what I understand there is separate language in contracts with regards to bonuses based on academic performance. Unlikely if 5-7 teams weren't eligible for bowl invites the U's administration pays out a making a bowl bonus because of the high APR.
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Look up. You'll see the point.
 



gopherdudepart2 said:
This is what most are losing site of, the bonus is more for turning the academics around not the lack of success this season record had. It is in the contract that the bonus is given for reaching a bowl game, doesn't have language that specifies contract language that states "must have winning record." IF the U wanted that they should have put the contract language in that say's so.

Media types like Barrierio and Judd and Zulgad said the coaches should donate the money to the facility's campaign, I'm not inclined to tell these guys how to spend their money. Like it or not, they get the money does not matter all of the wasted talk about it.
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I don't think any of these guys had a good year this year (or ever) so they should all donate their raise and bonuses to charity.
 


Maroon92 said:
The best scenario is for Claeys/Kill to donate the amount to the Epilepsy Foundation. Yes it is in their contract and no regular people would not turn down bonus' . However in looking how the year went beating only 2 low level B1G Ten teams does not warrant a reward. Donate the money and go get a bowl win
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The reward is what the contract stipulates. Neither one of them need to donate anything.
 

scools12 said:
They have language in their contacts that pays the coaches for making a bowl game. There is no other point.
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And they wouldn't have made a bowl game were it not for their focus on academics. There are, indeed, other points.
 



jeff111 said:
I was surprised how small the bonus was for Kill/Caeys and that it was the same for all bowls other than the Rose or the playoff. I could see Nebraska saying that they would turn down the bowl rather than paying over $400,000 in bonuses and Riley agreed to go to a bowl instead of getting the bonus.
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You're surprised it was so low? Check this board alone. If you are a masochist, check the Strib comment section. There are many posts and a number of threads saying that making a lower bowl is no big deal, that many teams make one and that it's not a reward for a good year anymore.

The administration, Claeys and Kill knew that too. Thus the dollar amount and the big payoff for the Bowls that are apparently worthwhile now.
 

It's the sign of the times. Now you actually graduate from Kindergarten. If you're a mite in a weekend hockey tournament you get a medal for "participation " Thinking back in all my years in athletics if the current system was in place I would need a week long garage sale to remove all the trinkets. Everyone gets rewarded even if you crap the bed. What did Michael Jordan say: " The reason I'm successful is because I learned from my failures "
 

Where does the U's APR stand in relation to other B1G teams? I honestly have no idea.

If I'm Kill/Claeys I'd probably take the bonus as well.
 

ruppertflywheel said:
It's the sign of the times. Now you actually graduate from Kindergarten. If you're a mite in a weekend hockey tournament you get a medal for "participation " Thinking back in all my years in athletics if the current system was in place I would need a week long garage sale to remove all the trinkets. Everyone gets rewarded even if you crap the bed. What did Michael Jordan. " The reason I'm successful is because I learned from my failures "
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I learned that I get to go to the bar on a Monday afternoon and watch Gopher football.
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
Where does the U's APR stand in relation to other B1G teams? I honestly have no idea.

If I'm Kill/Claeys I'd probably take the bonus as well.
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From May 28, 2015:

2013-14 Big Ten APR Scores:

Illinois - 984
Indiana - 1000
Iowa - 973
Maryland - 948
Michigan - 995
Michigan State - 975
Minnesota - 985
Ohio State - 975
Nebraska - 950
Northwestern - 974
Penn State - 970
Purdue - 985
Rutgers - 984
Wisconsin - 985

Overall, the Big Ten performed very well. In fact, the Big Ten led all major conferences in average APR score not only in men's basketball, but also in football. Generally, the Big Ten is perceived to put a high emphasis on academics and it has definitely been shown in the APR scores, especially considering that they finished ahead of strong academic conferences like the ACC and Pac 12.

http://www.btpowerhouse.com/2015/5/28/8673789/big-ten-leads-nation-in-2013-14-academic-progress-rate
 

Iceland12 said:
From May 28, 2015:

2013-14 Big Ten APR Scores:

Illinois - 984
Indiana - 1000
Iowa - 973
Maryland - 948
Michigan - 995
Michigan State - 975
Minnesota - 985
Ohio State - 975
Nebraska - 950
Northwestern - 974
Penn State - 970
Purdue - 985
Rutgers - 984
Wisconsin - 985

Overall, the Big Ten performed very well. In fact, the Big Ten led all major conferences in average APR score not only in men's basketball, but also in football. Generally, the Big Ten is perceived to put a high emphasis on academics and it has definitely been shown in the APR scores, especially considering that they finished ahead of strong academic conferences like the ACC and Pac 12.

http://www.btpowerhouse.com/2015/5/28/8673789/big-ten-leads-nation-in-2013-14-academic-progress-rate
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Wisconsin does not have score of 1000 + bonus points?
 

Maximus said:
I learned that I get to go to the bar on a Monday afternoon and watch Gopher football.
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This.

No one is saying that this was a good year because we made a bowl. We get it, it's a bad year, with or without this bowl. However, more football is good, right? I mean, I thought so.
 

Here's an idea: Instead of providing bonuses for the coaches on a 5-7, waive the increasing costs of Gopher Football season tickets. There's no way the Gophers make any sort of monetary profit on this bowl game. Our money invested in season tickets will more than likely (in a round about way) pay for this trip. Every year, I hesitate to renew. The new cost added of 150 a ticket with increased cost each year, really will weed out the true fan base. I'm a 9 year season ticket holder, living in Illinois, and now debating renewal. Keep the fans Minnesota and the bank full on Saturdays!


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kschoh said:
Here's an idea: Instead of providing bonuses for the coaches on a 5-7, waive the increasing costs of Gopher Football season tickets. There's no way the Gophers make any sort of monetary profit on this bowl game. Our money invested in season tickets will more than likely (in a round about way) pay for this trip. Every year, I hesitate to renew. The new cost added of 150 a ticket with increased cost each year, really will weed out the true fan base. I'm a 9 year season ticket holder, living in Illinois, and now debating renewal. Keep the fans Minnesota and the bank full on Saturdays!


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$50,000 divided by # of season ticket holders = a check for maybe $2.50 for every season ticket holder?
 

Maximus said:
$50,000 divided by # of season ticket holders = a check for maybe $2.50 for every season ticket holder?
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Every season ticket holder gets to pay $2.50 less than had we gone 4-8. Makes sense.
 

BleedGopher said:
Omaha World Herald: Husker coach Mike Riley 'wholeheartedly' agrees with no bonus pay for bowl game

Nebraska coach Mike Riley said Wednesday he “agreed wholeheartedly” with Athletic Director Shawn Eichorst’s idea to have Husker coaches forgo their bonus checks should NU be invited to a bowl game this weekend.

Because of the sheer number of bowls, 5-7 Nebraska should get an invite. Normally, a team must be at least 6-6 to qualify, but not enough teams with records of 6-6 and better were available this year. On Monday, the NCAA announced that 5-7 teams with the best Academic Progress Rate scores — a rolling total of graduation rates — would be in line for bids. Nebraska’s APR score is at the top of the list.

However, Riley and assistants won’t be getting the $437,385 in bonuses normally handed out for a Husker bowl berth. Riley said he’s fine with that.

“It’s obviously an administrative decision, but I agreed wholeheartedly,” Riley said. “Shawn brought it up to me and said, ‘What do you think?’ I think that’s appropriate. We’re just very fortunate to play another game. In the normal scheme of things we weren’t bowl eligible. We’re just fortunate we get to go. The credit belongs to the university for having that APR.”

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/husker...cle_e6b05df0-9912-11e5-ba97-1f47dcfcde93.html

Go Gophers!!
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This is BS. The contracts state playing in a bowl game! The AD is just being cheap and taking advantage of the coaches. The head coach may make enough, but the assistants need everything they can get.


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This

"In the normal scheme of things we weren’t bowl eligible. We’re just fortunate we get to go. The credit belongs to the university for having that APR.”

Riley totally gets it-- in a normal year they would not be a bowl team as everyone knows the official bowl eligibility is 6 wins. THe five win teams are fortunate and they are tying it to something that is done off the football field
 

Maroon92 said:
This

"In the normal scheme of things we weren’t bowl eligible. We’re just fortunate we get to go. The credit belongs to the university for having that APR.”

Riley totally gets it-- in a normal year they would not be a bowl team as everyone knows the official bowl eligibility is 6 wins. THe five win teams are fortunate and they are tying it to something that is done off the football field
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Or else it would be a tough sell for a first year head coach to take a bonus based on that team's academic performance prior to his arrival.
 

It was in the contract he just signed weeks ago. Anyone bent out of shape that the coaches are getting a bonus are petty and jealous and likely complain about many things in life being "not fair".
 

alchemy2u said:
This is BS. The contracts state playing in a bowl game! The AD is just being cheap and taking advantage of the coaches. The head coach may make enough, but the assistants need everything they can get. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Do you honestly think the motivation for forgoing the bonuses is to save the athletic department a few bucks? The coaches and the athletic department are far from hurting for money to where they need to worry about being frugal or cheap.
 

and how many million dollars per year is Riley making than Claeys? (just on base salary?)
 


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