Forced was oleboy's word, not mine. I've served my country, have you? I never said I think people should be forced to do it SJUgopher, my argument was that I don't understand why we can't come together as a large group of people on a Saturday and sing the national anthem without people bitching that it takes too much time, or it's outdated, or its whatever they think it is. I hear it everyday, and when it starts people stop their cars, stop doing what their doing outside, and put their hand over their heart. Rain or shine everyday around 5 there will be people standing outside like this, for the entire song. People here complain about one time a weekend. Gimme a damn break.