STrib: College, prep football in spring is unpopular option, but things are heading that way

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For many sports fans, autumn weekends revolve around football: Friday night high school, Saturday morning college and Sunday afternoon NFL, until long after the leaves turn.

But the coronavirus pandemic could change that backdrop from fall foliage to spring flowers.

“I’m hoping not. I would prefer that we played in the fall,” St. John’s coach Gary Fasching said. “But … I think we have to be open-minded.”

The idea of pushing the Division I college season to spring surfaced early in the pandemic but faded as optimism grew about the fall. Recently, though, with COVID-19 cases surging nationally and several NCAA programs reporting positive tests, renewed attention has turned to what a spring football season could look like.

“I think the people who say it’s not [an option], in my opinion, just don’t want to think about it,” Oklahoma coach Lincoln Riley told reporters. “… I, for one, think it’s very doable.”

The Ivy League is reportedly on the verge of pushing its fall sports to the spring, including a football season with a seven-game conference schedule through April and May. The Ivy League was the first to halt sports during the pandemic, and the NCAA as a whole could follow its lead again.


Injury issues

Gophers coach P.J. Fleck has said moving football to the spring because of the pandemic “makes sense” but worries about what toll playing two seasons in one calendar year would take on his players. He notes that a championship-caliber team could play up to 28 games in one calendar year.

“Every idea that we have has some type of thought process back to No. 1 and foremost: player safety,” Fleck said.

Minnesota State Moorhead coach Steve Laqua mentioned how players who endure an injury in the spring season would then have their fall season jeopardized. He said coaches would be cautious about load management and lightening the summer conditioning schedule.

Decreased roster numbers could make that especially difficult.

“We don’t have any players that are on full scholarships. So we have 18 seniors; a majority of them have planned on graduating at the end of fall semester. So they’re not around in the spring,” Laqua said. “And are they going to pay tuition to take extra credits to play football? I’d say that’s probably an unlikely scenario.”


Go Gophers!!
 


Logistically, I don't see how High Schools could pull off a move to spring with the amount of multi-sport athletes and conflicts there would be with venues as the article points out. Maybe the spring sports could be pushed to summer, but that feels like a reach.
 

I hope they don’t move it to spring. If they have to cancel this year, then cancel it. They had no problem cancelling Spring sports, why should football be special?

Moving it to spring will ruin all the timings of the subsequent years.
 

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I hope they don’t move it to spring. If they have to cancel this year, then cancel it. They had no problem cancelling Spring sports, why should football be special?

Moving it to spring will ruin all the timings of the subsequent years.

Agreed. If it were safer by then, maybe another possibility would be a 2-3 week practice period for fall sports with a scrimmage or 2. Perhaps coaches would feel like there would be value in that to maintain skills for underclass students. Just grasping at straws.
 

Why is football more special than spring sports? Maybe because it funds all of the spring sports and many of the winter sports? Maybe because college football has the most fan interest of any college sport? Maybe because college football pays the majority of most schools' athletic budgets?

We were talking with respect to High School sports, not College.
 





The flu is gonna be around forever get used to it or live in fear and stay in your house forever
A more rational approach, which seems to have escaped your razor sharp mind, is to continue social distancing, test, quarantine positive persons and test contacts until a vaccine or certain treatment is available.
Being wary of getting a possibly fatal or crippling disease seems to me not to be a sign of weakness but intelligence.
But a Darwinian experiment is taking place and culling the herd may increase the median IQ.
 

A more rational approach, which seems to have escaped your razor sharp mind, is to continue social distancing, test, quarantine positive persons and test contacts until a vaccine or certain treatment is available.
Being wary of getting a possibly fatal or crippling disease seems to me not to be a sign of weakness but intelligence.
But a Darwinian experiment is taking place and culling the herd may increase the median IQ.
Bolded: I've seen these types of arguments before, and I always immediately think the same thing: life isn't fair.

The people who you may think aren't likely to survive, maybe even don't deserve to survive ..... somehow, in the most befuddling way possible, are the ones who survive and then go on to prosper. It's not right, not fair, not probable. And yet that seems to be the way of life, I imagine much to the amusement of whatever entity runs this freakshow of an existence.
 

Saw a tweet today (Monday) that a Junior College athletic conference, which includes schools in MN, is canceling all Fall Sports.

I can see both sides of this. but, here's what I know - school administrators are extremely risk-averse.

It's easy to say "let them play" when you have no legal responsibility to the athletes.

My best guess right now - MN will have Cross-Country and Volleyball this fall, but no football games.
Hope I'm wrong, but that is what my gut is telling me, based on comments I've heard and read in the media.
 



We were talking with respect to High School sports, not College.
I was indeed talking about both, but in particular about college.

They cancelled March Madness, and then all of college spring sports. If there really is an equivalent environment this fall, as to what was last March ... then, as begrudgingly as anything in my lifetime, I will agree to cancel college football.

I say that mainly because I don't think there's any force on earth that can cancel pro football being played at the least without fans. But who knows ...


My biggest hope right now, is that somehow, some way, the increase in cases now won't translate very much into deaths. But when is life ever that easy?? It never is.
 

Saw a tweet today (Monday) that a Junior College athletic conference, which includes schools in MN, is canceling all Fall Sports.

I can see both sides of this. but, here's what I know - school administrators are extremely risk-averse.

It's easy to say "let them play" when you have no legal responsibility to the athletes.

My best guess right now - MN will have Cross-Country and Volleyball this fall, but no football games.
Hope I'm wrong, but that is what my gut is telling me, based on comments I've heard and read in the media.
Outdoor is far less likely to transmit the disease than indoor.

Cross-country perhaps -- outdoors, non-contact (expect maybe when bunched up at the start?). Volleyball is indoors.
 

High school sports in the headline....was it in the story?

we will know about high school sports in late July. MDE is scheduled to issue guidance for schools around July 24-27 I think. After that announcement about class decisions can be made about sports.

no regular school = no sports IMO
 

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Gotta hope beyond hope that the deaths line doesn't rise up like the cases line has. Even then, would that be good enough?
 
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High school sports in the headline....was it in the story?

we will know about high school sports in late July. MDE is scheduled to issue guidance for schools around July 24-27 I think. After that announcement about class decisions can be made about sports.

no regular school = no sports IMO

Yes, it was discussed in the article.
 

Gotta hope beyond hope that the deaths line does rise up like the cases line has. Even then, would that be good enough?

COVID-19 does not kill healthy people, especially not children. "Let my people go!"
 

COVID-19 does not kill healthy people, especially not children. "Let my people go!"
The bolded is proven false, and silly of you to pronounce.

A correct version of the statement is that it is unlikely to kill ...
 

The bolded is proven false, and silly of you to pronounce.

A correct version of the statement is that it is unlikely to kill ...

@MplsGopher: the correct version is extremely unlikely...unless the decedent had type 1 diabetes and weighed 400 pounds, or is taking anti-virals for HIV, or has a heart condition, or...

But these people are just as likely to die from influenza. We don't stop society to wring out this level of risk!
 

@MplsGopher: the correct version is extremely unlikely...unless the decedent had type 1 diabetes and weighed 400 pounds, or is taking anti-virals for HIV, or has a heart condition, or...

But these people are just as likely to die from influenza. We don't stop society to wring out this level of risk!
Not correct. We have examples of people who were none of those, in whom the virus causes a rare and extreme reaction that in turn kills them or makes them near fatally ill. Science does not understand why it happens.

Very unlikely to happen, but more than zero.
 


@MplsGopher: the correct version is extremely unlikely...unless the decedent had type 1 diabetes and weighed 400 pounds, or is taking anti-virals for HIV, or has a heart condition, or...

But these people are just as likely to die from influenza. We don't stop society to wring out this level of risk!
I’m kind of at a loss as to what to do.
Type 1 diabetes, work in a school.

ill do whatever they say and show up if they say show up.
I kind of think we should be in school not thinking about myself. If we go online through December I’ll be okay with that though
 

A 40 year old very fit male dancer in shows and movies died by inches over a one or two momth period. I believe the woman who needed a kung transplant was in her 20s.
The odds of dying e less if you are young and healthy but not for bing sick enough to need to be in te hospital.
If it happens to you or loved one it is 100%.
 

I’m kind of at a loss as to what to do.
Type 1 diabetes, work in a school.

ill do whatever they say and show up if they say show up.
I kind of think we should be in school not thinking about myself. If we go online through December I’ll be okay with that though
If it were possible to guarantee that a vaccine would arrive before Xmas that performed as well as our current standard MMR vaccines that we make every child get to go to school ... then in all honesty they probably “should” shut things down through the calendar year. No in person school or sports. No concerts. Limited indoor dining and shopping. Etc.

There is no such guarantee though, yet.
 

A 40 year old very fit male dancer in shows and movies died by inches over a one or two momth period. I believe the woman who needed a kung transplant was in her 20s.
The odds of dying e less if you are young and healthy but not for bing sick enough to need to be in te hospital.
If it happens to you or loved one it is 100%.

The male dancer had HIV.

There are hundred of anecdotes based on the original NYC subway surge. But we know now that the best way to protect the vulnerable is to follow Sweden.
 

The male dancer had HIV.
I’m kind of at a loss as to what to do.
Type 1 diabetes, work in a school.

ill do whatever they say and show up if they say show up.
I kind of think we should be in school not thinking about myself. If we go online through December I’ll be okay with that though

You should be protected and paid to stay home until herd immunity, vaccine or highly effective therapy is available.
 






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