Sooo, any insight into how Kill finishes this class?

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Down another commit, with a few other dropping us from their choices leaves me wondering how we end up filling the class. I'm not worried so much as curious.

Then i hear rumblings that Kill wants to bring in 36 freshmen including walkons to help fill holes and get the scholarship numbers back. So 6+ more scholarship athletes and 11+ walk ons.
Sounds like a tall task in a week or so considering alot of local FCS/walk on talent seems to be headed elsewhere. Anyone know whether there's alot more walk-ons lined up or considering it?

I'm still hoping for a few pass rushers, DT's, and runningbacks.
It will be a very interesting recruit watch this next week.
 

One thing Kill said at the GLC event on Sunday is the information about recruiting on the Internet is not always accurate. In the context of the question, I believe it meant that they don't always know who they're recruiting or who is committed or not. We'll have to wait and see.
 

Let's assume we get both DE's we had in this weekend, Estime and Perine. We just offered the DB from Dallas, Carrington. That probably means that the DB from LA that was a soft verbal to Southern Miss (Cortez Johnson) told Coach Kill no thanks. We are stocked on OL/TE and have a QB committ. This is how I see the last 6 scholarships playing out:

1. Perine (DE)
2. Estime (DE)
3. Carrington (DB)
4. RB (Sankey?)
5. WR
6. LB
 

gophmeister said:
One thing Kill said at the GLC event on Sunday is the information about recruiting on the Internet is not always accurate. In the context of the question, I believe it meant that they don't always know who they're recruiting or who is committed or not. We'll have to wait and see.
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Interesting. I do take Kill as using a much more old school approach to recruiting.
It's been discussed that he doesn't text, along with the ban on cell phones, and his approach to the social media stuff, AND his disdain for the news of his hiring getting out on the internet before he could tell his NIU team, I could see how he might not be forthcoming with up to the minute recruit info. Plus the fact that he's not giving a ton of media interviews etc. leads me to think he's working too hard on recruiting to worry about the media stuff.
If he can bring in a bunch of contribution caliber walk-ons right away and fill this class up in a week, I'll be very impressed. Man I wish more of the local FCS types would walk on.
 

Lonely Gopher fan in Iowa.

For the last thirty-eight years of my sixty-year life, I've been a lonely Gopher fan living in Des Moines, Iowa. I was born and raised in northern Minnesota, went to high school in Grand Marais and grew up cheering for the Gopher football teams of the 1960s.
Despite Nebraska to the west in Lincoln and Iowa to the east in Iowa City, I've remained a Gopher fan throughout my adult life. It has been interesting, however, to watch first hand the fortunes of Nebraska and Iowa football teams over almost forty years.
My reason for joining this message board and writing this post is that I think Jerry Kill is the best thing to happen to Gopher football in many years. He reminds me of when Hayden Fry first came to Iowa in the late 1970s. I'm not saying Jerry Kill will be the next Hayden Fry, but consider the similarities:
1. Fry was an older, long established coach prior to coming to Iowa. He'd coached at SMU (where he was fired) and North Texas State.
2. Fry brought many of his long-time assistants (e.g., Bill Snyder) with him to Iowa.
3. Fry knew exactly what he wanted to do offensively and defensively the minute he got to Iowa and within three years had the Hawkeyes in the Rose Bowl.
4. Fry's staff was always know for "coaching kids up" and many of his assistants (e.g., Bill Snyder, Barry Alveraz, Bobby Stoops, Kirk Ferentz and so forth) have gone on to be outstanding head caoches. Fry and Alvarez are both in the College Football Hall of Fame.
The area where Jerry Kill seems least like Hayden Fry to me deals with the fact that the new Gopher coach does not appear to have a massive ego. What really won me over to Kill was watching his first televised news conference that was shown live on the Big Ten Network in early December of last year. That news conference coupled with the bowl game win Northern Illinois won a few weeks later convinced me Jerry Kill is the real deal. TCU's impressive win over Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl was icing on the cake. Coach Patterson and Coach Kill are peas in a pod. Minnesota is very lucky to have Jerry Kill and his staff working to rebuild the Gopher program at this time and in all the right ways.
 


hey. Welcome to the Hole' and thank you for providing hope in the program. :clap:


LonelyIowaGopher said:
For the last thirty-eight years of my sixty-year life, I've been a lonely Gopher fan living in Des Moines, Iowa. I was born and raised in northern Minnesota, went to high school in Grand Marais and grew up cheering for the Gopher football teams of the 1960s.
Despite Nebraska to the west in Lincoln and Iowa to the east in Iowa City, I've remained a Gopher fan throughout my adult life. It has been interesting, however, to watch first hand the fortunes of Nebraska and Iowa football teams over almost forty years.
My reason for joining this message board and writing this post is that I think Jerry Kill is the best thing to happen to Gopher football in many years. He reminds me of when Hayden Fry first came to Iowa in the late 1970s. I'm not saying Jerry Kill will be the next Hayden Fry, but consider the similarities:
1. Fry was an older, long established coach prior to coming to Iowa. He'd coached at SMU (where he was fired) and North Texas State.
2. Fry brought many of his long-time assistants (e.g., Bill Snyder) with him to Iowa.
3. Fry knew exactly what he wanted to do offensively and defensively the minute he got to Iowa and within three years had the Hawkeyes in the Rose Bowl.
4. Fry's staff was always know for "coaching kids up" and many of his assistants (e.g., Bill Snyder, Barry Alveraz, Bobby Stoops, Kirk Ferentz and so forth) have gone on to be outstanding head caoches. Fry and Alvarez are both in the College Football Hall of Fame.
The area where Jerry Kill seems least like Hayden Fry to me deals with the fact that the new Gopher coach does not appear to have a massive ego. What really won me over to Kill was watching his first televised news conference that was shown live on the Big Ten Network in early December of last year. That news conference coupled with the bowl game win Northern Illinois won a few weeks later convinced me Jerry Kill is the real deal. TCU's impressive win over Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl was icing on the cake. Coach Patterson and Coach Kill are peas in a pod. Minnesota is very lucky to have Jerry Kill and his staff working to rebuild the Gopher program at this time and in all the right ways.
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Welcome aboard!

LonelyIowaGopher said:
For the last thirty-eight years of my sixty-year life, I've been a lonely Gopher fan living in Des Moines, Iowa. I was born and raised in northern Minnesota, went to high school in Grand Marais and grew up cheering for the Gopher football teams of the 1960s.
Despite Nebraska to the west in Lincoln and Iowa to the east in Iowa City, I've remained a Gopher fan throughout my adult life. It has been interesting, however, to watch first hand the fortunes of Nebraska and Iowa football teams over almost forty years.
My reason for joining this message board and writing this post is that I think Jerry Kill is the best thing to happen to Gopher football in many years. He reminds me of when Hayden Fry first came to Iowa in the late 1970s. I'm not saying Jerry Kill will be the next Hayden Fry, but consider the similarities:
1. Fry was an older, long established coach prior to coming to Iowa. He'd coached at SMU (where he was fired) and North Texas State.
2. Fry brought many of his long-time assistants (e.g., Bill Snyder) with him to Iowa.
3. Fry knew exactly what he wanted to do offensively and defensively the minute he got to Iowa and within three years had the Hawkeyes in the Rose Bowl.
4. Fry's staff was always know for "coaching kids up" and many of his assistants (e.g., Bill Snyder, Barry Alveraz, Bobby Stoops, Kirk Ferentz and so forth) have gone on to be outstanding head caoches. Fry and Alvarez are both in the College Football Hall of Fame.
The area where Jerry Kill seems least like Hayden Fry to me deals with the fact that the new Gopher coach does not appear to have a massive ego. What really won me over to Kill was watching his first televised news conference that was shown live on the Big Ten Network in early December of last year. That news conference coupled with the bowl game win Northern Illinois won a few weeks later convinced me Jerry Kill is the real deal. TCU's impressive win over Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl was icing on the cake. Coach Patterson and Coach Kill are peas in a pod. Minnesota is very lucky to have Jerry Kill and his staff working to rebuild the Gopher program at this time and in all the right ways.
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Yup

Yup, not exactly how I got to the same place but I too am very optimistic about Gopher football!
Nice job lonely guy! Welcome! Gotta be nice being able to remind the locals we beat Iowa this year and trash talk a little about next year.
 

What a great post but there is a problem.....it gets me way too excited for next season and beyond!
 



Maybe Matt Limegrover is the next Bob Stoops!
 

Thanks!

Thanks for making me feel so welcome here! One of you commented about Bobby Stoops. That brings up the slightly darker side of the coaching legacies Hayden Fry left behind. Stoops went to work for Bill Snyder at Kansas State after they both left Iowa. The president at K State (a former secretary of agriculture for the state of Minnesota) allowed Snyder to let anybody in school to play on his football team.
Stoops left K State to become the defensive co-ordinator under Steve Spurier at Florida. Think about the upside and the downside of football recruiting Stoops learned in the SEC. When Hayden Fry retired at Iowa, Hawkeye fans all wanted Stoops to return to Iowa City. He choose Oklahoma, instead. One of the main reasons why is that Oklahoma looks upon recruiting much more like K State and Florida do than Big Ten schools are allowed to.
But getting back to more positive things, if Jerry Kill is as good as he appears to be we can all learn a lot by watching Kill and his assistants work. I saw it with Fry. I saw it with Snyder. And I saw it with Alvarez at Wisconsin. The Gopher program should (and I firmly believe) will get better every day. There will be ups and downs. There will be disappointments. But at the end of the day we will all be more proud to be Gopher fans and in love with Jerry Kill and his staff.
Finally, Kill and his assistants obviously have the same tireless work ethics of Hayden Fry and Bill Snyder. The new Gopher staff will simply outwork many of their competitors. They're still hungry with a lot to proof. They have much, much bigger names to make for themselves.
 

When I first looked a kills record at NIU and SIU I saw two trends I liked. His teams don't get blown out and they win their home games. Also, he beat us quite handily and managed wins over Purdue and Indiana and close games against Wisconsin and Illinois.
 

One of brewster and Masons's biggest problems was their biggest wins were on the road. the homr folks never got a chance to experience a big win. In Mason's case especially, he would have been a lot more popular with the same record if he had beaten ranked teams here rather than on the road.
From a purist perspective, it is more impressive on the road, but the late game meltdowns at home were killers from the perspective of the average fan believing in the team.
 



corcoran1 said:
One of brewster and Masons's biggest problems was their biggest wins were on the road. the homr folks never got a chance to experience a big win. In Mason's case especially, he would have been a lot more popular with the same record if he had beaten ranked teams here rather than on the road.
From a purist perspective, it is more impressive on the road, but the late game meltdowns at home were killers from the perspective of the average fan believing in the team.
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I agree that hurt both coaches. Perception is everything. The only wins they could muster at home were over average Wis. and Iowa teams. Syracuse with McNabb was probably the only other good win at home in the last 15+ years.
 

corcoran1 said:
One of brewster and Masons's biggest problems was their biggest wins were on the road. the homr folks never got a chance to experience a big win. In Mason's case especially, he would have been a lot more popular with the same record if he had beaten ranked teams here rather than on the road.
From a purist perspective, it is more impressive on the road, but the late game meltdowns at home were killers from the perspective of the average fan believing in the team.
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Ohio St and Michigan never lost a game in the dome.
 

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