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Guess what? Boise State would play 4-5 Nevada-caliber teams every year in SEC or Big Ten.

Gary Danielson had it absolutely correct during the Auburn-Alabama broadcast. Paraphrasing, he said that the non-BCS schools don't have to get through "an Alabama" the way the Big-boy schools do.

Couldn't have been happier with 3 football games more than seeing AUburn, Oregon, and Nevada all win. What a great day of football.
 


spermophilus said:
Guess what? Boise State would play 4-5 Nevada-caliber teams every year in SEC or Big Ten.

Gary Danielson had it absolutely correct during the Auburn-Alabama broadcast. Paraphrasing, he said that the non-BCS schools don't have to get through "an Alabama" the way the Big-boy schools do.

Couldn't have been happier with 3 football games more than seeing AUburn, Oregon, and Nevada all win. What a great day of football.
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Boise is a very good football team but so are all of the 1 and 2 loss teams. Winning 4 Big Ten or SEC road games (and 4 home games) is really difficult.

Beating 2-3 teams isn't enough as there are 40 teams in the country with 2-3 impressive wins.

The Plus one would help. If Boise did go undefeated, they would have to win one more big game before getting in the title game.

Its good water cooler stuff though, which keeps people talking college football.
 

The BCS is a joke, and reality is I do not care who gets to play in the title game. This game is not a real title game. Football needs a playoff system just like baseball, basketball, hockey etc. I will not watch this game until it is a real championship!
 

Well, I'm actually quite disappointed. If Boise State or TCU made the championship game, it would be just the sort of obviously-wrong thing it would take to get thr power conferences to demand a real playoff. The BCS is a national embarrassment.
 


spermophilus said:
Guess what? Boise State would play 4-5 Nevada-caliber teams every year in SEC or Big Ten.

Gary Danielson had it absolutely correct during the Auburn-Alabama broadcast. Paraphrasing, he said that the non-BCS schools don't have to get through "an Alabama" the way the Big-boy schools do.
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Yes, Boise St. would play the equivalent of 4-5 Nevada-caliber teams annually if they were in the Big 10.
And on top of it, they would have to play several legitimate heavyweights annually, too.

Gary Danielson was correct. So was Dr. Gordon Gee. But they may not have been politically correct.;)
 

I favor an 8 team playoff, involving the top 8 conference champions, with the top 4 teams hosting. No at-large playoff spots, if you weren't the best in your conference, you aren't the best in the country. This preserves the integrity of the regular season, as you must win your conference to be eligible for the playoffs. No team would slack in the final game even if they had clinched their conference championship, as a loss in that final game could cost them valuable seeding, or could even knock you out of the playoffs.
 


Now here's how to write a banner headline :drink:

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It's always nice to see an underdog win (today at TCF for example) also don't give a @&%# about how it affects the BSC one way or another.
 



A Boise win and then their 30 point loss in the title game might have initiated the playoff system; so I'm disappointed.
 


BBQ Platypus said:
Well, I'm actually quite disappointed. If Boise State or TCU made the championship game, it would be just the sort of obviously-wrong thing it would take to get thr power conferences to demand a real playoff. The BCS is a national embarrassment.
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This was the only reason I would have liked to see Boise win. I hate them but think it would have made a playoff happen.
 

Boise State has at least 4 losses with Minnesota's schedule.

We all want to see big games, but so many people are willing to heap rewards upon the teams that will only play cupcakes.
 



Love the upset, but there's a very slim possibility that it cost us a chance at Patterson. (I know, I know... no way he would ever come here... no way anybody good would ever come here... if anybody good came here they'd leave as soon as they succeeded. There, now you don't have to do it.)
 

nasa35 said:
A Boise win and then their 30 point loss in the title game might have initiated the playoff system; so I'm disappointed.
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I would like to see Boise or TCU play in the title game for a multitude or reasons.

Worst case would be Boise vs TCU in title game. That would prove nothing.
 

RodentRampage said:
I favor an 8 team playoff, involving the top 8 conference champions, with the top 4 teams hosting. No at-large playoff spots, if you weren't the best in your conference, you aren't the best in the country.
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There are not 8 legitimate BCS conferences. Why would the Big Ten and SEC agree to this? Why do you insist on rewarding "bad to mediocre" teams that happen to play in crappy conferences?
 

BBQ Platypus said:
Well, I'm actually quite disappointed. If Boise State or TCU made the championship game, it would be just the sort of obviously-wrong thing it would take to get thr power conferences to demand a real playoff. The BCS is a national embarrassment.
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nasa35 said:
A Boise win and then their 30 point loss in the title game might have initiated the playoff system; so I'm disappointed.
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I actually disagree here. I think a Boise appearance in a BCS title game would have strengthened the BCS. The BCS is all about putting the power and money of the title game in the hands of the biggest conferences. Having a non-AQ in the title game isn't suddenly going to change that motivation or the minds of the presidents in charge of the decision. Gordon Gee might hate that Boise made it, but he isn't scrapping the money his school gets from the BCS over it.

I think Boise making the title game would have simply strengthened the BCS. BCS supporters could go "see, its true! This is a fair system and any team has a chance to play for the national title game!" all the while knowing the unlikely nature of the appearance. The specific conditions required to make it happen would not be easily repeated. You keep an undefeated #3 ranked Boise team out an all the BCS haters and playoff supporters actually have MORE ammo.
 

I think Boise Would have Won the NC. Sure they would have had maybe 4-5 hard teams on the schedule but they also would have 3 cupcakes at the beginning of the season, plus the bottom feeders of a given conference every year. They would win 9 games easily yearly.
 

I wanted Boise State to win. I think Boise in the title game would have created chaos and might have led to a playoff being established.

While the WAC schedule isn't super difficult, I give Boise credit for its non-conference schedule.

They beat the ACC champion, they beat a Pac-10 team that was ranked at the time, they beat a MAC team that finished second in its division (and beat a Big Ten team) and played a road game against a bad Mountain West team. I can't imagine it is very easy for Boise to get non-conference games.

Here is a little tidbit: Boise played as many ranked opponents as Wisconsin, Ohio State and Oregon this season.
 


The only thing about the current system, it sure puts a lot of more emphasis on these games. I personally think that the current system made the Auburn-ALabama game and Boise St.-Nevada game that much more compelling.
 

spermophilus said:
Guess what? Boise State would play 4-5 Nevada-caliber teams every year in SEC or Big Ten.

Gary Danielson had it absolutely correct during the Auburn-Alabama broadcast. Paraphrasing, he said that the non-BCS schools don't have to get through "an Alabama" the way the Big-boy schools do.

Couldn't have been happier with 3 football games more than seeing AUburn, Oregon, and Nevada all win. What a great day of football.
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Unfortunately, we're not one of the Nevada-caliber teams in the Big 10 that they'd have to face.
 

Goldmember said:
There are not 8 legitimate BCS conferences. Why would the Big Ten and SEC agree to this? Why do you insist on rewarding "bad to mediocre" teams that happen to play in crappy conferences?
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That's how playoffs work. You take the good conferences with the bad. We do this all the time throughout all of sports. If we didn't, the Twins would never make the playoffs. The Vikings would never make the playoffs. There are always better teams than ours that didn't make the cut in their own conference or division.

And by the way, Boise and TCU are not "bad to mediocre". You have to look at the top of the Big Least to find that kind of team going to a BCS bowl.
 

8 team playoff.

5 BCS conference champions
3 Highest ranked at large teams(1 must come from a non BCS school.

2 teams would play 1 extra game
2 teams would play 2 extra games.
 

Proves my contention they would not go unbeaten in a major conference - Alabama would eat their lunch, ditto Auburn, LSU, Aerkansas, Ohio State, Wisconsin, etc. Still, I'd take their coaching staff any day.
 

Duluthguy said:
Love the upset, but there's a very slim possibility that it cost us a chance at Patterson. (I know, I know... no way he would ever come here... no way anybody good would ever come here... if anybody good came here they'd leave as soon as they succeeded. There, now you don't have to do it.)
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Why did it do that?

Actually I think that Oregon and Auburn winning out helps us in that regard.

An undefeated TCU playing Wisconsin might frustrate Patterson enough to leave.

If your point was that Boise St winning would have BUMPED TCU out of the altogether....I can see that logic.

Not sure what it would take to pry him out of Ft Worth. Their fan support is luke warm at best. If they were 11-1....their crowds are 35k -40k max. Their undefeated regular seasons in a decent but not great conference are the only reason they are adding on to their stadium to have it seat 40k. Expanded to 50k....at some point in the future.

GM
 

spermophilus said:
Guess what? Boise State would play 4-5 Nevada-caliber teams every year in SEC or Big Ten.

Gary Danielson had it absolutely correct during the Auburn-Alabama broadcast. Paraphrasing, he said that the non-BCS schools don't have to get through "an Alabama" the way the Big-boy schools do.

Couldn't have been happier with 3 football games more than seeing AUburn, Oregon, and Nevada all win. What a great day of football.
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when you live in Idaho and hear about how great Boise Junior Cllege is it's like Christmas when they lose, doesn't get any better
 

The only good thing coming from Boise losing would be if their coach now would consider the gophers job. The only good thing..
 

ProfessorBum said:
That's how playoffs work. You take the good conferences with the bad. We do this all the time throughout all of sports. If we didn't, the Twins would never make the playoffs. The Vikings would never make the playoffs. There are always better teams than ours that didn't make the cut in their own conference or division.

And by the way, Boise and TCU are not "bad to mediocre". You have to look at the top of the Big Least to find that kind of team going to a BCS bowl.
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You are confused. The NCAA is not a "league" per se. The BCS would be more analogous to a "league". Though it only exists to select teams for its bowl games.

What you are advocating is more on par with saying that anytime the Saint Paul Saints compile a better record than any MLB team they should be selected to play in the World Series.
 

Boise State is a helluva good football team. They would have competed for a Big Ten title this year, with as much talent as they have on offense.

They lose a road game to a solid opponent and everybody is suddenly a genius... "see? see? I knew all along."
 

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