Sid Hartman: Kill works on basics with U conditioning

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Wow...Sid's column is interesting...frightening...disturbing...all at the same time;

It makes one appreciate what a fine job Interim Head Coach Horton did at the end of last season to pull out victories against Illinois and Iowa.

It also makes one wonder whether Glen Mason can be blamed for the current state of the program:rolleyes:
He's only been gone since 2006.

Obviously, Brewster did a great job stocking the cupboard during the previous 4 years:cry:

...Kill didn't inherit a very good team, and with an opening game at powerful Southern California this fall, the new coach is doing everything possible to improve his players.

"I think we have to teach them what we expect in practice when we get into the fall. I think it's baby steps," Kill said....
Upon his first look at his team in workouts, Kill and his staff were disappointed in what they saw. No doubt this team isn't as talented as it needs to be...
 

Those victories at the end of the season were not done with smoke and mirrors. Especially during the Iowa game the Gophers dominated their opponents physically on both sides of the ball. This Gopher team is not anywhere near as bad or out of shape as some would like us to believe.
 

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dinkything said:
Wow...Sid's column is interesting...frightening...disturbing...all at the same time;

It makes one appreciate what a fine job Interim Head Coach Horton did at the end of last season to pull out victories against Illinois and Iowa.

It also makes one wonder whether Glen Mason can be blamed for the current state of the program:rolleyes:
He's only been gone since 2006.

Obviously, Brewster did a great job stocking the cupboard during the previous 4 years:cry:

...Kill didn't inherit a very good team, and with an opening game at powerful Southern California this fall, the new coach is doing everything possible to improve his players.

"I think we have to teach them what we expect in practice when we get into the fall. I think it's baby steps," Kill said....
Upon his first look at his team in workouts, Kill and his staff were disappointed in what they saw. No doubt this team isn't as talented as it needs to be...
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I am afraid Sid is not a very good student of languages (Including English). The only thing he does it regurgitate what he hears. He seems to be oblivious as to what is behind the messages Kill is sending to his players and the public. Maybe Sid needs to go to basic training and see how it works.

It does seem though that Kill knows how to communicate to Sid quite well.
 

Kill is doing a great job at managing fan expectations and in the same breathe...telling his players that we are not good enough yet. Keep working.

Plus, we need to take his statements about conditioning in context...his staff has a refined approach to player development and they know what they want...it would make sense that the players aren't up to thier standard...its new to everyone.

I don't think for a minute that Kill is saying all the players are fat, lazy and out of shape...I think he is saying they aren't fast and strong to their system and standards and have a lot of work to do to get their.

We have talent returning on this team and we also have holes to fill...most importantly, we have a staff with a system and players know that for the next 4 years (and hopefully longer) they will be playing in that system.
 


GiP, +1, IMO, that is exactly what Kill is doing.
 



How many teams can boast about their strength coach graduating from multiple
high schools. He must be very good. :)
Wow sid, keep up the insightful articles.
 



Sid has said repeatedly that they won't fire Brewster, so who is this Kill guy you speak of?:cool02:
 

Better News

There is good news on the Gophers football front from an academic standpoint in that defensive tackle Ra'Shede Hageman and cornerback Michael Carter, who were not allowed to play at the end of the season so they could focus on their studies, have shown great improvement in the classroom.
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Not sure what Sid means by great improvement but I 'like' it
 

This Gopher Team has more talent then the teams Coach Kill had at Northern.
I believe his comments need to be taken in context. He is stating what is needed on a Big Ten Level
This is not a team without talent.
 

Johnny Olson said:
This Gopher Team has more talent then the teams Coach Kill had at Northern.
I believe his comments need to be taken in context. He is stating what is needed on a Big Ten Level
This is not a team without talent.
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Not according to the score of last years game between the two.;)
 



Originally Posted by Johnny Olson This Gopher Team has more talent then the teams Coach Kill had at Northern.
I believe his comments need to be taken in context. He is stating what is needed on a Big Ten Level
station19 said:
Not according to the score of last years game between the two.;)
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In addition to the 2010 Gopher getting lit up by NIU, Purdue from 2009 got drilled by Jerry Kill's NIU squad as well.:eek:

I think Jerry Kill knows of what he speaks.
 

I'm not sure why everyone is so shocked at Kill's comments. Obviously the results on the field have shown us that something isn't quite right with our program. It's not like the team underperformed for some magical reason due to Brewster's incompetence. Of course we need to improve...that's why we had a coaching change. I'd be concerned if Kill was impressed with the team at this point.
 

GopherinPhilly said:
Kill is doing a great job at managing fan expectations and in the same breathe...telling his players that we are not good enough yet. Keep working.

Plus, we need to take his statements about conditioning in context...his staff has a refined approach to player development and they know what they want...it would make sense that the players aren't up to thier standard...its new to everyone.

I don't think for a minute that Kill is saying all the players are fat, lazy and out of shape...I think he is saying they aren't fast and strong to their system and standards and have a lot of work to do to get their.

We have talent returning on this team and we also have holes to fill...most importantly, we have a staff with a system and players know that for the next 4 years (and hopefully longer) they will be playing in that system.
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Very well said.
 

GopherHomer said:
I'm not sure why everyone is so shocked at Kill's comments. Obviously the results on the field have shown us that something isn't quite right with our program. It's not like the team underperformed for some magical reason due to Brewster's incompetence. Of course we need to improve...that's why we had a coaching change. I'd be concerned if Kill was impressed with the team at this point.
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I disagree. The cupboard isn't bare. It was just dirty and unorganized. Even fine china won't look good if its not polished. Kill is trying to polish it up as we speak.

The players have the skill necessary to be competitive they just need to be prepared properly.

Brewster was given the keys and he didn't know how to drive. That's why he was fired. Hopefully, Kill can drive but first he needs to rebuild the engine that Brewster blew up.

If you need an example of needing more than talent to win games look at the Ole Miss transition from Ed Oregeron to Houston Nutt. Oregeron got some damn good ball players to Ole Miss but had no clue how to prepare them. Houston Nutt came in and led Oregerons recruits to some pretty solid years.
 

cjcarter8 said:
I disagree. The cupboard isn't bare. It was just dirty and unorganized. Even fine china won't look good if its not polished. Kill is trying to polish it up as we speak.

The players have the skill necessary to be competitive they just need to be prepared properly.

Brewster was given the keys and he didn't know how to drive. That's why he was fired. Hopefully, Kill can drive but first he needs to rebuild the engine that Brewster blew up.

If you need an example of needing more than talent to win games look at the Ole Miss transition from Ed Oregeron to Houston Nutt. Oregeron got some damn good ball players to Ole Miss but had no clue how to prepare them. Houston Nutt came in and led Oregerons recruits to some pretty solid years.
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Great analogy usage.
 

Maybe it was in reference to hair conditioner.

Rallis looks particularly stringy.
 

I join the GiP caucus in this matter. Kill's working on multiple levels with his comments.
 

Johnny Olson said:
This Gopher Team has more talent then the teams Coach Kill had at Northern.
I believe his comments need to be taken in context. He is stating what is needed on a Big Ten Level
This is not a team without talent.
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I am just talking about pure talent out of High School. Take a look on rivals and compare his recuits and the Gophers..
The difference is that Kill coached up his resulting in better Football players.
 

Go4Broke said:
Those victories at the end of the season were not done with smoke and mirrors. Especially during the Iowa game the Gophers dominated their opponents physically on both sides of the ball. This Gopher team is not anywhere near as bad or out of shape as some would like us to believe.
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100% agreed. I think the cupboard is far from empty & many key players had the light go on near the end of the season. Kill is just Lou Holtz'ing us fans & trying to motivate the players, imo. No doubt they have work to do, especially in the class room but I don't see this as a rebuilding project.
 

Costa Rican Gopher said:
100% agreed. I think the cupboard is far from empty & many key players had the light go on near the end of the season. Kill is just Lou Holtz'ing us fans & trying to motivate the players, imo. No doubt they have work to do, especially in the class room but I don't see this as a rebuilding project.
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We will see what he can do during Spring drills.
 

I'm beginning to love Kill. I've always supported him, but everytime I hear / read something on him.. It's like the time I first met my wife all over again.

Mmmmmm.. Lovin' Killer..
 

Formo said:
I'm beginning to love Kill. I've always supported him, but everytime I hear / read something on him.. It's like the time I first met my wife all over again.

Mmmmmm.. Lovin' Killer..
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Man, I had to read that again after I saw:
It's like the time I met met my FIRST WIFE all over again.
 

I think you are right, he is mostly disappointed in the development of the talent and the speed on the squad on the defense. If you take his point that his whole defense is predicated on the ability of two good speed rushing DEs then he has to think he has some problems with the development of the DEs. However, I think Claeys philosophy of attacking with his Dlinemen, also helps all of the DL players emphasize the speed they do have, as opposed to what we have done the last two years.
 

corcoran1 said:
I think you are right, he is mostly disappointed in the development of the talent and the speed on the squad on the defense. If you take his point that his whole defense is predicated on the ability of two good speed rushing DEs then he has to think he has some problems with the development of the DEs. However, I think Claeys philosophy of attacking with his Dlinemen, also helps all of the DL players emphasize the speed they do have, as opposed to what we have done the last two years.
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So does our defensive strategy no longer consist of players getting "their dadgum chili hot"?
 

Jeshurun said:
So does our defensive strategy no longer consist of players getting "their dadgum chili hot"?
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AWESOME!!! Hopefully by not having to worry about the temperature of their dadgum chili they can concentrate on fundamentals of tackling.

I really think the truth is somewhere between setting expectations low and being completely disappointed. When you listen to Kill discuss it, he legitimately does sound disappointed at the state of the team, but I also don't think he's to the point where he's going to say there's no hope. The Illinois and Iowa games may not have been smoke and mirrors, but neither were South Dakota or NIU. I really don't think last years' team was a 7 to 8 win team held to 1 by an incompetant coach (+2 by a more competant coach). We have little talent at some positions and too much (from a distribution standpoint - obviously you can never really have too much) at others. It'll take a few years to even it out.

I think there is food in the cupboard, but there are too many cans of lima beans and ocra and not enough HOT CHILI! (Like how I took that full circle???):) You can still make an edible dish, but it won't be the ideal mix of ingredients for a few years...
 

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