SIAP: The shadiness of Findlay Prep

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MRJ said:
Ogee,

I should also clarify my previous remarks to avoid confusion. If you took my original statement as an indictment of everything in the Las Vegas area as being corrupt, that was not my intent. In fact, a former co-workers' son commented on how pleasant living in the area is, especially during the summer. Rather, my intent was simply to point out that it wouldn't surprise me if they were indeed corrupt. I confess to not knowing one way or the other. Other than that, I can imagine that Las Vegas' reptuation is a bit of an annoyance to many of the locals.
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I'm not annoyed at all. In all honesty, Vegas is fairly corrupt, particularly in my line of work. I give my work to the subconsultants who take me to play the golf courses that I want to play, but is that really "corrupt"? I actually wasn't taking a shot at you individually, just noting that believe it or not, there are LOTS of people who are surprised that people really LIVE in LV. Why is that so odd? Truth be told, once you leave the Strip, LV isn't that different than most other cities (other than having slot machines in the grocery stores, convenience stores, KMart, Wal-Mart, etc.).

Gopher Warrior said:
If you read all the posts and you were confused, there are bigger issues for you. And what does Hawaii have to do with all of this?

Dang I'm hungry. And potentially insane.
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Easy, Francis. Just making a comment. Besides, in regards to the possible use of HI, "If you read all of the posts and you were confused (with Hawaii vs Henderson Int'l), there are bigger issues for you". Sorry, had to top-spin volley that ball right back into your court...
 

What time do the grown ups start posting on this thread?
 

If GH had a Weird Thread Hall of Fame, this one is first ballot worthy. Can't believe I read the whole thing.
 

Gopher Warrior said:
The answer was “in real classrooms at Henderson”.
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That's neither exact or specific. When you're dealing with a "high school," a middle school, and an elementary school, "in a classroom at Henderson" is quite general and does not answer the question. Particularly when I told you twice I know nothing about the school or its layout.

Gopher Warrior said:
Henderson had three ‘campuses’ (two of which were down literally down the street from each other). They have consolidated into one location. Henderson still operates a school – it never closed.
- Henderson has teachers on its staff, including some teachers that taught high school students in past years. Some of these teachers still teach students in a high school program.
- The high school program includes Findlay players and one other student. An arrangement was agreed to under which Henderson will offer a high school curriculum to kids in the Findlay program. For this 2010-11 year, this high school curriculum was also offered to Henderson high school students who had completed their junior year of high school in 2009-10
- So… going forward, the plan is that Henderson will effectively run a high school program for kids in the Findlay program. Henderson will not offer this program to the paying public.
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Now that is specific and exact. If you would have just answered my question this way to begin with we'd have saved each other some time and avoided part of this long thread. I'm not sure why, but it seems you were begging to make it hard on yourself in playing some sort of a "I know something you don't" game. I told I didn't know anything about the arrangement, that was why I was asking. You had the answer all along, but seemed more interested in proving some point that wasn't there.

At any rate, thanks for the info. You've answered the question. It sounds like an interesting arrangement they've got going there.
 

Texas/Findlay

None of your senseless rabble-rousing answers the obvious Findlay/Texas issue. The financier of a "prep" school lands 5 star recruit after five star recruit for his school. Players travel for months on end? How are the going to classes "at Henderson"? The whole thing stinks to high hell.
 


Sour1729 said:
Just a quick note:

Obviously I knew going in that this was a faceless blog with tons of subjectivity interjected. I thought it was interesting nonetheless and if nothing else it has spurred discussion.
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FWIW, I'm pretty certain that this was written by an A&M author. You see, the aggies are a little ticked off. They had a decent football season for once and their most coveted recruit just committed to Texas.

Only an aggie would use "prostitution" in such an "article". They are a special breed.

Whoever wrote this is equivalent to a zoo-kept baboon defecating in their hand and then throwing it at a wall to see what sticks.

Take it for what it is. The wail of an infant with a dirty diaper.
 

I was wrong

[censored] said:
FWIW, I'm pretty certain that this was written by an A&M author. You see, the aggies are a little ticked off. They had a decent football season for once and their most coveted recruit just committed to Texas.

Only an aggie would use "prostitution" in such an "article". They are a special breed.

Whoever wrote this is equivalent to a zoo-kept baboon defecating in their hand and then throwing it at a wall to see what sticks.

Take it for what it is. The wail of an infant with a dirty diaper.
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There is nothing wrong with Find/UT Everything is on the up and up. just a bunch of A&M (Damn them) cry babies. Give it a rest Censy. Your program is so filthy it defies reason. And you never won anything for your deceit. ouch.
 

balds said:
There is nothing wrong with Find/UT Everything is on the up and up. just a bunch of A&M (Damn them) cry babies. Give it a rest Censy. Your program is so filthy it defies reason. And you never won anything for your deceit. ouch.
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I didn't say anything equivalent to that, so don't put words in my mouth. And don't call me Censy. And cease with the insults. They are misplaced and ineffective.

I'm just saying, as others already have, to take this "article" or whatever you choose to call it with a grain of salt. Or two. Or maybe a cube would be best.
 

[censored] said:
FWIW, I'm pretty certain that this was written by an A&M author. You see, the aggies are a little ticked off. They had a decent football season for once and their most coveted recruit just committed to Texas.

Only an aggie would use "prostitution" in such an "article". They are a special breed.

Whoever wrote this is equivalent to a zoo-kept baboon defecating in their hand and then throwing it at a wall to see what sticks.

Take it for what it is. The wail of an infant with a dirty diaper.
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I thought I acknowledged this in my previous post (that you quoted) considering I said that I was aware of the subjectivity of the "article." Again, the fact remains that it is interesting and it has spurred discussion (as evidenced by this thread). Whether or not an A&M fan wrote it, unless it is 100% blatantly false it is something to think about. Should I somehow take your burnt orange viewpoint as more valid? Both you and the author of the blog have axes to grind, that much is clear. Gosh, who should I believe? As usual, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.
 



Is Henderson MN named after Henderson NV, or is Henderson NV named after Henderson MN? Oh the dilemma.
 


Section201 said:
And don't call me Censy :cry:

This thread is a classic!
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Don't worry, bro. No tears here. Just thought that was queer of him to give me a little nickname.

And sour, yeah... I was agreeing with what you had posted earlier, not trying to contradict it. I was just expounding on the likelihood that the "article" is without much merit at all.

But I understand when posters here assume I'm being defensive, and then go on the offensive. I guess that's just the hand I've been dealt here. So be it. Y'all have a good weekend.
 

Nicks

[censored] said:
Don't worry, bro. No tears here. Just thought that was queer of him to give me a little nickname.

And sour, yeah... I was agreeing with what you had posted earlier, not trying to contradict it. I was just expounding on the likelihood that the "article" is without much merit at all.

But I understand when posters here assume I'm being defensive, and then go on the offensive. I guess that's just the hand I've been dealt here. So be it. Y'all have a good weekend.
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I didn't really think you were upset at the nickname. Folks use nicks a lot when replying. I think of them as signs of endearment!

:)
 



I know a guy named Nick. His nickname is Nickname.
 

Realistically, with Findlay's basketball schedule, players are rarely in class rooms in Henderson during the season, any it is nearly accurate to say they take correspondence courses.

Now GW can commence excessively defining "rarely" and "correspondence" and pointing out any grammatical errors.
 

AAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNND that blog has been removed. Why might you ask? Because of what I tried to tell some of you before. This was just posted by a A&M fan that hates Texas dominating them relentlessly in recruiting.

After this Findlay Prep article this blogger posted two subsequent "blogs" that directly accused current recruits of being bought. Which ones? Well, the ones I alluded to in my previous post.

This blogger outright stated that Jonathan Gray, one of the top RBs in the nation, had been bought by Texas for $250K.

He also stated that Malcom Brown (DT) and Tim Cole (LB) from Brenham, TX were bought for $80K each. You see, A&M had practically offered the whole Brenham football team to try to land Brown. He's a stud DT. Probably the best in the state. And Brenham is in A&M's backyard. Sherman came in and has tried to reclaim that pipeline, but he still didn't get the recruits Texas offered, save one Brandon Alexander (DE from last year's class).

Then just today I believe the blog posted an article about Peter Jinkens (LB) Skyline, being involved with a street agent and that's why he committed to Texas. They even went as far as to say he was still mad about A&M pulling his offer (which may be true or not). Who knows? Either way, the post was complete crap because it was reported that Jinkens was repping Texas about as much as possible while at the camp.

So what happened to the blog? Well the Gray family got pissed about their names being drug through the mud and they found out what little p.o.s. was spreading outright lies about them and I'm guessing they threatened legal action. So the blog is no more.

So again, consider the source before you take a blog's information and run with it like it's the truth.

I swear, one of these days some of you people will actually learn to listen and consider what I post. I don't post just to post, or to speak out of my backside. Have I been wrong before? Absolutely. Was I right about this? Not really. All I said was "consider the source." But yet I was met with Gopher fans that just wanted to rip on Texas. It's a shame.

Y'all have a wonderful day.
 


My question is why have so many Findley players gone to Texas. What is the pull, I would guess there is a greater number doing that than what is statistically the norm. You would expect high school kids to keep their options open and their commits would be more spread out. What is driving that, who knows, I for one question it.
 

jovs said:
My question is why have so many Findley players gone to Texas. What is the pull, I would guess there is a greater number doing that than what is statistically the norm. You would expect high school kids to keep their options open and their commits would be more spread out. What is driving that, who knows, I for one question it.
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Already addressed in this thread.
 

balds said:
None of your senseless rabble-rousing answers the obvious Findlay/Texas issue. The financier of a "prep" school lands 5 star recruit after five star recruit for his school. Players travel for months on end? How are the going to classes "at Henderson"? The whole thing stinks to high hell.
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This and this http://trueslant.com/bobcook/2010/0...l-basketball-team-is-now-more-fake-than-ever/

They recruit players to a team "only connected" to a private school which is not a high school anymore. What does this high school staff consist of? Did Henderson International keep enough teachers on staff to simply provide only one handful of students their curriculum? Funded by a former UNLV player and texas alum? A healthy portion of these five star players commit to the Longhorns (this could be a coincidence.) To deny the potential for shady dealings would be laughable.
 

And a "healthy portion" of these players committed to Texas before even enrolling in Findlay Prep, so it's just as easily said that Texas might recommend it if they think Findlay Prep does a good job of preparing them for the next level.

I can't say with absolute certainty that everything is above board with the Texas/Findlay Prep connection, because frankly I have no idea. I'm just a fan. I will say that if Texas were paying to get recruits, we'd never lose a recruiting battle. The fact is we do. Take it however you choose.
 

I'd guess Findlay/Henderson/Online Prep (whatever it's called) will get a few comp promotional spots on the new Longhorn Network!
 

[censored] said:
And a "healthy portion" of these players committed to Texas before even enrolling in Findlay Prep, so it's just as easily said that Texas might recommend it if they think Findlay Prep does a good job of preparing them for the next level.

I can't say with absolute certainty that everything is above board with the Texas/Findlay Prep connection, because frankly I have no idea. I'm just a fan. I will say that if Texas were paying to get recruits, we'd never lose a recruiting battle. The fact is we do. Take it however you choose.
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Yes, but if a "healthy portion" of these kids committed to Texas first and then went to a Texas Alum funded "school" there are flags there as well.

"Come to Texas and we will throw in Findlay Prep too."
"Would you like to travel around the United States playing basketball on our dime? All you have to do is sign that letter"

Not saying this is how it works, but, you know.
 

stocker08 said:
Yes, but if a "healthy portion" of these kids committed to Texas first and then went to a Texas Alum funded "school" there are flags there as well.

"Come to Texas and we will throw in Findlay Prep too."
"Would you like to travel around the United States playing basketball on our dime? All you have to do is sign that letter"

Not saying this is how it works, but, you know.
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Oh, I know. But it's not like this is any different that the slew of other prep schools in the country. It's just how things are. It is what it is.
 

Question

Why Las Vegas? To have less scrutiny than having a prep school in Texas? To make it appear more that there is no connection? To have more allure as a recruiting tool for Texas? I agree that that is just how it works with prep schools/AAU, etc. But it shouldn't and the NCAA does nothing about it.
 

balds said:
Why Las Vegas? To have less scrutiny than having a prep school in Texas? To make it appear more that there is no connection? To have more allure as a recruiting tool for Texas? I agree that that is just how it works with prep schools/AAU, etc. But it shouldn't and the NCAA does nothing about it.
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Just curious, how come no one seemed to be too concerned about Findlay Prep when Tubby was recruiting Cory Joseph?
 

fan of Ray Williams said:
Just curious, how come no one seemed to be too concerned about Findlay Prep when Tubby was recruiting Cory Joseph?
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Speaking for myself, I wasn't aware that it was financed by a wealthy Texas alum, or that the school has continually funneled 5 star recruits to Austin.
 

balds said:
Speaking for myself, I wasn't aware that it was financed by a wealthy Texas alum, or that the school has continually funneled 5 star recruits to Austin.
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Probably because none of that is true.
 

balds said:
Speaking for myself, I wasn't aware that it was financed by a wealthy Texas alum, or that the school has continually funneled 5 star recruits to Austin.
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You mean this guy?......Cliff Findlay, the former UNLV center and Las Vegas-area automobile magnate.
 

balds said:
Speaking for myself, I wasn't aware that it was financed by a wealthy Texas alum, or that the school has continually funneled 5 star recruits to Austin.
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Funny. You keep running with that "info" as if it's God's honest truth, when it's clear that the blog was hogwash. You are a prime example of why there should be a test for the right to vote. You're a sucker.

Furthermore, as I've stated once already... do you REALLY think Texas would have gone multiple years, having mediocre teams, without a true PG if we were paying players or having them funneled to us? If Texas did open up the checkbook we'd never lose a recruit. Call it arrogance if you want, it's the truth. Texas' athletic program and boosters have deeper pockets than just about any school in the country.

But yes, go ahead and continue to reiterate that blogs garbage that Findlay is "funneling" players to Texas or that it was financed solely by a Texas alum.

Get a freaking clue.
 

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