Shooter: It will be interesting to see if Pitino receives an adjustment on his salary

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joshvanklomp said:
Fine, but the team didn't digress either. Same conference record. Entered NIT at 20-13 (Tubby entered NCAAs at 20-12)
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Gentlemen, the word you are looking for is "regress." And I agree. They most certainly didn't do that.
 




Bad Gopher said:
I must disagree. I got a 10 percent raise after my first year with my company out of college. Not because I was God's gift but because I simply demonstrated that I belonged and could do the work. It's not unusual.
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Agree with this...I had same scenario when I started my company post MBA...... its how the real world works folks. If Pitino's pay is lower than the middle of the average for the B1G, we need to at least bring it to the average. Experience before coming here can be thrown out the window. If the U thinks he is a good coach and our future, he should be paid the average of his peers.. which is basically the "middle" of that HR pay range for B1G coaches. This provides him upside in the future but also tells him the organization likes him. His age and experience shouldn't hold his pay back.. especially when the "perks" at our company are not as great as our competitor's.
 


Rouser said:
Agree with this...I had same scenario when I started my company post MBA...... its how the real world works folks. If Pitino's pay is lower than the middle of the average for the B1G, we need to at least bring it to the average. Experience before coming here can be thrown out the window. If the U thinks he is a good coach and our future, he should be paid the average of his peers.. which is basically the "middle" of that HR pay range for B1G coaches. This provides him upside in the future but also tells him the organization likes him. His age and experience shouldn't hold his pay back.. especially when the "perks" at our company are not as great as our competitor's.
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No it's not. Most people don't operate with a contract. The majority of people who do do not receive raises while under contract. It's the goal of business to pay you as little as possible while squeezing as much production out of you as possible. If you outperform your contract, you're not seeing another cent most of the time.
 

Gopherguy0723 said:
No it's not. Most people don't operate with a contract. The majority of people who do do not receive raises while under contract. It's the goal of business to pay you as little as possible while squeezing as much production out of you as possible. If you outperform your contract, you're not seeing another cent most of the time.
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To give a 1st year coach with a 6 year defined benefit contract raise is absurd. Do you think if the Pitino had a bad first year that he would get a pay cut ? Do you think that that the 6 year contract that Pitino agreed to was based on the gophers being a perennial bottom feeder? Give him a chance to coach his own recruits not mostly Tubbys. He did not make The "Tourney" he struck out on all 4 in state recruits he brought in one kid so far who is highly rated and or is a proven good quality Big Ten player. Why not give Rich a chance to play build his team before going gaga over him. Tubby won a NCAA title his first year at Kentucky which was great ...but that was with Rick's recruits and Tubby did not get a new contract for it. Rich agreed to a 6 year contract with at least a 5% annual raise plus incentives so yes he is getting a raise! The 2015/2016 season will be the first year to really evaluate Pitino as a head coach from the standpoint of coaching the kids he brought in. Even with the Gophers steeped in mediocrity under Tubby we always heard rumors of him moving on that is part of game not a reason to up a contract or declare your coach underpaid. If not for the U Pitino would likely still be trying to build his resume at Fla Int making 250K
 

The Brain Trust said:
To give a 1st year coach with a 6 year defined benefit contract raise is absurd. Do you think if the Pitino had a bad first year that he would get a pay cut ? Do you think that that the 6 year contract that Pitino agreed to was based on the gophers being a perennial bottom feeder? Give him a chance to coach his own recruits not mostly Tubbys. He did not make The "Tourney" he struck out on all 4 in state recruits he brought in one kid so far who is highly rated and or is a proven good quality Big Ten player. Why not give Rich a chance to play build his team before going gaga over him. Tubby won a NCAA title his first year at Kentucky which was great ...but that was with Rick's recruits and Tubby did not get a new contract for it. Rich agreed to a 6 year contract with at least a 5% annual raise plus incentives so yes he is getting a raise! The 2015/2016 season will be the first year to really evaluate Pitino as a head coach from the standpoint of coaching the kids he brought in. Even with the Gophers steeped in mediocrity under Tubby we always heard rumors of him moving on that is part of game not a reason to up a contract or declare your coach underpaid. If not for the U Pitino would likely still be trying to build his resume at Fla Int making 250K
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+1
 

no point in bidding against yourself. If Ricky wants to leave he'll leave regardless of if he got a pay bump this year. If he wants to stay he'll do what every other coach does and flirt with another offer to negotiate a better contract here. We can bump his pay to $2mil if we want and if a school comes calling that he wants to go to then it won't matter. Money matters to these coaches but they'll get it wherever they'll go. We would've paid Shaka top dollar as would Marquette. He didn't stay at VCU because they paid him last year, he stayed because he wanted to be there.
 



Gopherguy0723 said:
No it's not. Most people don't operate with a contract. The majority of people who do do not receive raises while under contract. It's the goal of business to pay you as little as possible while squeezing as much production out of you as possible. If you outperform your contract, you're not seeing another cent most of the time.
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Most BCS head basketball coaches don't get new contracts when they do well? A new contract is akin to a raise. It does happen...all the time. It's actually not unusual at all.
 

Gopherguy0723 said:
It's the goal of business to pay you as little as possible while squeezing as much production out of you as possible.
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Here I thought the goal of most businesses was to increase income and build the company in both the short and long runs.
 


Gopherguy0723 said:
They're not mutually exclusive. You're trying too hard. Stop.
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Rewarding your most important, productive employees is often used as a technique to further the bottom line, 723. Right? I am not interested in saving nickels and squeezing productivity. I am interested in moving this program into the upper tier and building a foundation that cannot be easily destroyed. Rich Pit deserves a bump or a bonus or whatever you want to call it, in my opinion. I'm not saying $5M. I'm saying something. He's at the bottom of the league in salary and he coached better than that THIS year. I want to keep him happy at this point.

You can disagree if you want, but don't pretend you understand better than I do.
 



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