Shooter: Gophers' NIL budget this season —lowest in the Big Ten — was in the $700,000 range, of which Dawson Garcia got $500,000.

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Per Shooter's Little Birdie:

>> A little birdie said the Gophers men’s basketball name, image and likeness (NIL) budget this season —lowest in the Big Ten — was in the $700,000 range, of which Dawson Garcia got $500,000.

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If it's remotely close to the truth, how was Ben supposed to compete? Seriously.

You would have a 100% legit case to rag on him if he produced that four year record under the old rules. However, if he was that revenue deficient, seven B1G wins in 24-25 was a near miracle.
 



I have often heard numbers in the 700k range. Also that MN was at the low end of the BB pool? Since no one seems to have real firm actual numbers it’s hard to judge a coach’s recruitment abilities accurately But if Ben had that amount and 3/4 of it went to Garcia, there is no way in this environment he could field a competitive team. Sort of like trying to win a NASCAR race with a Ford Focus?

One thing does seem consistent though. The U was a day late and lots of dollars short once NIL hit.
 






BleedGopher said:
Per Shooter's Little Birdie:

>> A little birdie said the Gophers men’s basketball name, image and likeness (NIL) budget this season —lowest in the Big Ten — was in the $700,000 range, of which Dawson Garcia got $500,000.

www.twincities.com

Charley Walters: Vikings’ backup definitely won’t be Rodgers

There’s a 99 percent chance that Rodgers winds up with the Steelers, and for Cousins the most likely choice is the Browns.
www.twincities.com www.twincities.com

Go Gophers!!
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I have said this for a while: Coyle was unprepared for the NIL before, during and after. He is still trying to catch up to what the rest of the country knew and dealt with. His apologists on this board will defend his inaction as being an articulate and powerful leadership style. I will say it again. Coyle is a stuffed shirt. I've dealt with guys like him before. He can glad hand with the best of them but nothing beyond. I want Coyle replaced with someone with fire in their veins and the capacity to sniff out money like a coon dog. Racoon dog for you weirdos with an agenda.
 



jamiche said:
If it's remotely close to the truth, how was Ben supposed to compete? Seriously.

You would have a 100% legit case to rag on him if he produced that four year record under the old rules. However, if he was that revenue deficient, seven B1G wins in 24-25 was a near miracle.
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I won't get into how much was exactly available last year for Ben when it came to NIL $$. However, I will say it is really surprising that the numbers are that low. The people that have the kind of money that throw down $100K, $250K or $500K are not looking to provide that money out of the kindness of their heart. If they make that investment (yes, an investment), they want to see an ROI in the form of hey I can book tickets to NCAA tourney destination in March.

My analogy is you have this 30 yr old guy who makes a great pitch on how he can build this business all he needs is $2M to make it work, but he has never ran a business to show any significant success. Then you have the other guy who has run multiple businesses in his career and the last one he walked away after selling it for $100M and is now looking to start a new business and is looking for investors. Which guy are you going to write a check for? Ben might be a great guy, but people aren't writing big checks for someone with no track record and that's how it is in the new NCAA environment. The biggest disappointment is that Coyle couldn't figure that out or worse for some reason he didn't care.
 



And I’ll reiterate again, didn’t matter what Coyle did, no one, and I mean no one was giving any money to a Ben coached team. They knew he wasn’t upto it and they weren’t going to support it.
 

ShushPush said:
I have said this for a while: Coyle was unprepared for the NIL before, during and after. He is still trying to catch up to what the rest of the country knew and dealt with.
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I have mixed feelings about Coyle as I feel he did a good job with this hire. He is the guy out front so he has to take a lot of blame for what happened with NIL. I saw this coming when attending a kick off meeting for it. You could see they were going to screw it up from the beginning. I do think he works for an administration that doesn't care and forced the Johnson hire on him in the first place.
 

99Gopher said:
I won't get into how much was exactly available last year for Ben when it came to NIL $$. However, I will say it is really surprising that the numbers are that low. The people that have the kind of money that throw down $100K, $250K or $500K are not looking to provide that money out of the kindness of their heart. If they make that investment (yes, an investment), they want to see an ROI in the form of hey I can book tickets to NCAA tourney destination in March.
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THIS!
 

bga1 said:
I have mixed feelings about Coyle as I feel he did a good job with this hire. He is the guy out front so he has to take a lot of blame for what happened with NIL. I saw this coming when attending a kick off meeting for it. You could see they were going to screw it up from the beginning. I do think he works for an administration that doesn't care and forced the Johnson hire on him in the first place.
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I do think part of the Administration issue is that they still live in fear of 1999. Coyle still mentions "compliance" as one of the most important jobs of the coach. It's time to accept that the NCAA is a toothless non-entity and stop living in fear of accidentally coloring a millimeter outside the line.
 

It's a joke that this team can muster more than 700K we are dommed as long as we can barely scrape funds together and support this program.
 

jamiche said:
If it's remotely close to the truth, how was Ben supposed to compete? Seriously.

You would have a 100% legit case to rag on him if he produced that four year record under the old rules. However, if he was that revenue deficient, seven B1G wins in 24-25 was a near miracle.
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You could rag on the fact that he did NOTHIG to inspire any sense of enthusiasm for the program since the day he was hired. Seems like a nice guy, but incredibly boring. People can hate on PJ as much as they want but he is CONSTANTLY selling the program with public appearances, gimmicks, etc.....it's what is required in the day of NIL.
 

Mike Max spent maybe 5 minutes on NIL on the sports after the NCAA championship game.
He had a video with Niko discussing it. Niko was good. I'm confident we have some money and we will get some more. Also video with Dinkytown's Burns.
Max talked about the uncertainty of all the rulings coming.
Replay Not available yet but guessing it'll get Youtubed.
And my source about this time last year was a friend of Ben's who said we had more than just one million to spend.
Search result: Nikko
 
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ShushPush said:
I have said this for a while: Coyle was unprepared for the NIL before, during and after. He is still trying to catch up to what the rest of the country knew and dealt with. His apologists on this board will defend his inaction as being an articulate and powerful leadership style. I will say it again. Coyle is a stuffed shirt. I've dealt with guys like him before. He can glad hand with the best of them but nothing beyond. I want Coyle replaced with someone with fire in their veins and the capacity to sniff out money like a coon dog. Racoon dog for you weirdos with an agenda.
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Wow get over it. Blame it on Coyle? Do you really love this “transfer porter and NiL” it’s nothing more than free agency and pay for play every year but yeah let’s blame one of the good ones in the ad. Even good coaches are leaving the game because of it.
 

Goldy Gopher said:
I've heard 1.2-1.5 with Dawson taking up 700-750 of it.
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This is what I've heard/seen reported elsewhere. I've also heard we were "bottom 3rd" in the Big Ten in NIL last year. There was a lot of talk on Iowa boards that they were last in NIL in the B1G. Of course the fans on the boards blamed Fran for that who had one losing B1G season in the last decade before this year while playing an exciting style of basketball. We have people thinking Ben wasn't at fault for this despite finishing last in back to back years before NIL really became a big issue. The massive mistake was not hiring Dutcher 4 years ago, everything else almost doesn't matter. I hope we can dig ourselves out of another self created hole, but this one is especially massive.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Little to no doubt we were at the lower end of the conference in terms of pay for play money, but no way am I trusting anything Shooter says as being accurate.
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Cut Shooter some slack, he’s never been the same since Jim Carter and his scarves passed a few years ago.
 

minnyrules11 said:
Wow get over it. Blame it on Coyle? Do you really love this “transfer porter and NiL” it’s nothing more than free agency and pay for play every year but yeah let’s blame one of the good ones in the ad. Even good coaches are leaving the game because of it.
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So called good coaches leave the profession every year. Reasons change but the turnover remains consistent. No different than any other time in coaching history.

The NIL is a correction for a wrong. I do expect players to get paid. In fact, I believe it is a moral imperative that they do and at very high rates of pay. I believe the sentimentalist attitude to not pay them is like the old Confederate mantra that the "slaves were treated well." All that chat about amateurism being special has always been the selling point of administrators trying to keep the money for their budgets. That is Coyle speak if I ever heard it.

As for Free Agency, you are damned right it IS free agency. The very meaning FREE agency means NOT SLAVE. I am 100% all in on non-slave. Students have always represented funding and money to universities. It is a logical truth. But the administration often forgets that students are people with fundamental rights. They are adults, not chattel.

The interesting point about amateurism in the NIL case that you may not be aware of is this: the litigants proved that pay was being given to players from the very beginning and that schools and the NCAA kept raising the benefits each and every decade since the creation of the NCAA. That is the fundamental truth that opened the door wide open. It was the key evidence in the case. The lie has always been that money has been tight. In business, life, anywhere that is always the biggest lie. Money is ubiquitous, everywhere, even in recessions and downturns in the stock market. Rate of flow is the only thing that changes. When people hang onto money is when bad things happen. This is the undeniable fact of economics. Don't impede the money.

Coyle, in his conservatism to not adapt to the NIL impeded the money.
 

ShushPush said:
I have said this for a while: Coyle was unprepared for the NIL before, during and after. He is still trying to catch up to what the rest of the country knew and dealt with. His apologists on this board will defend his inaction as being an articulate and powerful leadership style. I will say it again. Coyle is a stuffed shirt. I've dealt with guys like him before. He can glad hand with the best of them but nothing beyond. I want Coyle replaced with someone with fire in their veins and the capacity to sniff out money like a coon dog. Racoon dog for you weirdos with an agenda.
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He put the wrong person in charge of it from the start. A former NCAA staffer and compliance director was the guy he put in charge, no chance of thinking outside the box.
 


Lots of hand wringing, arguing and bickering over shadow money nobody has the slightest friggin' clue what we do or don't have. They are all educated guesses at best.

Until there is a salary cap and contracts, no collective in their right mind is ever going to release their financials voluntarily. Every D1 program is playing poker. Why would anybody show their cards to the other players? That is the insanity of this "system".

Set something up similar to NFL, NBA and NHL rules for consistency. The structure is already in place. It will help athletes prepare for the next level, and fans will know what to expect.
 

WCCO story last night. "U of M students reported around $245,000 in NIL earnings last year."

So a small number of students reported their earnings.


Biggest thing I took from the story that leaves me optimistic.

At the Power conference level the talent gap isn't big enough to make a $6M team that different from a $3M team with the transfer portal. There are only so many spots to transfer to.

However Niko said the NIL portion will be the difference.
 

DarthGopher said:
Lots of hand wringing, arguing and bickering over shadow money nobody has the slightest friggin' clue what we do or don't have. They are all educated guesses at best.

Until there is a salary cap and contracts, no collective in their right mind is ever going to release their financials voluntarily. Every D1 program is playing poker. Why would anybody show their cards to the other players? That is the insanity of this "system".

Set something up similar to NFL, NBA and NHL rules for consistency. The structure is already in place. It will help athletes prepare for the next level, and fans will know what to expect.
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The imposition of NIL compensation caps by collectives constitutes a direct affront to the principles of free market competition and athlete autonomy. By attempting to standardize limits for each school, collectives are engaging in practices that echo the antitrust violations previously condemned by the Supreme Court in NCAA v. Alston. This artificial restriction not only curtails the earning potential of student-athletes but also consolidates control within an opaque system that undermines the very freedom that NIL reforms were intended to secure.

Such behavior by collectives is an alarming replication of the NCAA’s restraint on trade, merely repackaged under a new guise. These caps represent a coordinated effort to suppress market forces, effectively disempowering athletes and perpetuating inequality in a landscape that should prioritize opportunity and fairness. Furthermore, these practices expose the system to potential legal challenges, as they starkly conflict with the spirit of the Supreme Court’s ruling and broader antitrust principles.

To address these issues, an independent framework is urgently needed—one that operates transparently, ensures equitable NIL opportunities, and preserves the independence of student-athletes from institutional or collective overreach. The establishment of such a system would safeguard the integrity of the NIL ecosystem and reaffirm the rights of athletes to negotiate their value without interference.
 

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