Shama: Don’t Be Too Sure U Search Going Badly; HC to be named within 2 weeks

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I would fully expect an announcement within 2 weeks, I would be disappointed honestly if this goes past early next week.
 

If this goes on for another 2 weeks I'll lose my mind.
 

Monty519 said:
I would fully expect an announcement within 2 weeks, I would be disappointed honestly if this goes past early next week.
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Agreed. That said, I have been far from panicking over the fact that the coach hasn't been announced yet. Again, we have a bunch more regular season games across the country.

I would really like to see an announcement by Tuesday though...
 

Within two weeks, huh? The U hyping up keeping a watch on Facebook and Twitter for news of the new coaching hire gives the impression that a hire is going to happen any time now. But the U, for some reason just doesn't seem that tech-savvy.
 


WITHIN two weeks...

...not IN two weeks.

The announcement will be early next week. Bank on it.

Keep in mind that Dave Shama and Dave Mona have been close friends for over 40 years, going back to their days on the sports staff of The Minnesota Daily.
 

It's amusing to this former media member that the media members in town has resorted to the whole "well, they haven't given us anything to write about, therefore the process is going badly" angle. I don't doubt for a moment that the process has been proceeding largely according to plan, but the media members are upset because they aren't hearing much about it.

So we're left with rumor, innuendo and speculation that nobody wants the job, because, well, the media HAS to say something. That's how we get Sid's "it's obvious things are going poorly", Barreiro, Gaard, and Brackin's "nobody wants the job" and Reusse's "I think it's going to be Sumlin." The actual truth is nobody has a frickin' clue but they have to say something and therefore further prove why folks at the U distrust the media.
 


uagain said:
...not IN two weeks.

The announcement will be early next week. Bank on it.

Keep in mind that Dave Shama and Dave Mona have been close friends for over 40 years, going back to their days on the sports staff of The Minnesota Daily.
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I still have a feeling Hoke is the guy (which I would be happy with). This would seem to support the annoucement within two weeks when his buyout decreases.
 



Bisker82 said:
I still have a feeling Hoke is the guy (which I would be happy with). This would seem to support the annoucement within two weeks when his buyout decreases.
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I don't know, it seems to me that if you want the guy you should be willing to shell out that 500,000 more.

I understand how much that is, but you are simply giving SDSU alums and staff the chance to come up with a bigger and better retention package, probably forcing Hoke to stay put.
 

I'm not panicking. Yet.

But with recruiting season under way, we should get our preferred coach as soon as possible.

Here's are some benchmarks in my timeline...
  • If there isn't a twitter followed by the announcement of a press conference by noon today, then we wont know anything until Monday at the soonest.
  • If it is someone that's already done with the season (besides Hoke) we should know by Monday or Tuesday.
  • If it is someone coaching this weekend, they wont be able to iron out sufficient details in order to announce until Wednesday or Thursday at the soonest.
  • If its Hoke, that could obviously wait until 12/15.

I know I'm not saying anything that everyone doesn't already know, I'm just compiling it here.

I think it would be a shame to lose more than a week of recruiting time, so I REALLY hope this thing is figured out by next Tuesday. Of course if it is a HUGE name, that would be worth burning a few more days of the recruiting clock - as their name recognition amongst recruits would get us some LOI's.

I don't think saving $500k for Hoke is worth burning 15 or 16 days on the recruiting clock. It seems like if Hoke was destined to leave, SDSU would rather know about it sooner so they could start looking for a coach. Maybe we could work something out to reduce the buyout by $25,000 a day or something like that.

Also, I'm not a lawyer, but it seems like if we were to roll out a shiny new contract with Hoke on 12/15, SDSU's attorney could say we were in collusion with Hoke. Any lawyers out there have thoughts on this?

Finally, I try to remember that we didn't hire Brewster until January 15, 2007. So even if the new coach weren't announced until December 15, he'd still have a month more than Brew did for recruiting.
 

Go Gophers Rah said:
I'm not panicking. Yet.

But with recruiting season under way, we should get our preferred coach as soon as possible.

Here's are some benchmarks in my timeline...
  • If there isn't a twitter followed by the announcement of a press conference by noon today, then we wont know anything until Monday at the soonest.
  • If it is someone that's already done with the season (besides Hoke) we should know by Monday or Tuesday.
  • If it is someone coaching this weekend, they wont be able to iron out sufficient details in order to announce until Wednesday or Thursday at the soonest.
  • If its Hoke, that could obviously wait until 12/15.

I know I'm not saying anything that everyone doesn't already know, I'm just compiling it here.

I think it would be a shame to lose more than a week of recruiting time, so I REALLY hope this thing is figured out by next Tuesday. Of course if it is a HUGE name, that would be worth burning a few more days of the recruiting clock - as their name recognition amongst recruits would get us some LOI's.

I don't think saving $500k for Hoke is worth burning 15 or 16 days on the recruiting clock. It seems like if Hoke was destined to leave, SDSU would rather know about it sooner so they could start looking for a coach. Maybe we could work something out to reduce the buyout by $25,000 a day or something like that.

Also, I'm not a lawyer, but it seems like if we were to roll out a shiny new contract with Hoke on 12/15, SDSU's attorney could say we were in collusion with Hoke. Any lawyers out there have thoughts on this?

Finally, I try to remember that we didn't hire Brewster until January 15, 2007. So even if the new coach weren't announced until December 15, he'd still have a month more than Brew did for recruiting.
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Don't you and everyone think if the announcement isn't made by Monday/Tuesday next week it has to be Hoke and they are waiting till the 15th?
 

Wheaton said:
Don't you and everyone think if the announcement isn't made by Monday/Tuesday next week it has to be Hoke and they are waiting till the 15th?
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No. Lets say it were someone coaching this Saturday. Their agent probably set up an interview with either our search firm or with Maturi & Co. for Monday. Even if informal discussions have occured already regarding salary, years, etc., there are sure to be some big-picture outstanding issues that everyone will need a day to mull over. Then, on Tuesday, the coach and Maturi shake hands. In this world of litigation, however, no one is going to announce anything until at least a preliminary document has been signed. This will take the lawyers a day or two to hammer out (lawyers get paid by the syllable). Finally, on Thursday or Friday a formal announcement can be made.

Sorry for such a long answer. The short answer is that even if it a guy coaching on Saturday, it will likely take 3-7 days before he can be named in my opinion.
 



My source, who may or may not know anything definitive, tells me that Maturi is getting turned down left and right and that Horton may actually have a shot now. Seriously.

Take it FWIW.
 

zman said:
My source, who may or may not know anything definitive, tells me that Maturi is getting turned down left and right and that Horton may actually have a shot now. Seriously.

Take it FWIW.
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Dear Lord, no. Hiring Horton is a sign that our administration has given up. He is the only potential hire that would actually cause me to not renew my season tickets (and yes, that includes Marc Trestman and Mike Grant). In a worst-case scenario, we could definitely hire Phil Fulmer, Randy Shannon, or Mike Leach, any of whom would be a million times better candidate than Horton Hears a Boo.
 

zman said:
My source, who may or may not know anything definitive, tells me that Maturi is getting turned down left and right and that Horton may actually have a shot now. Seriously.

Take it FWIW.
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I will pass on this one thanks.

My hunch is Maturi is going for a home run.

The season is not even over yet for some teams. Give it a little more time before everyone goes into the fear and dread.
 

I have a feeling something is lined up and has been for awhile. It's been almost too quiet.
 

positively4thstreet said:
I have a feeling something is lined up and has been for awhile. It's been almost too quiet.
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I hope so. The two extremes are that the deal is done and they are waiting for something like this weekends games before announcing anything, or Maturi can't give the job away. I hope it is the former.
 

calminnfan said:
I will pass on this one thanks.

My hunch is Maturi is going for a home run.

The season is not even over yet for some teams. Give it a little more time before everyone goes into the fear and dread.
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Great, going for a home run. I think at this point he's already struck out and over on the bench rubbing pine tar all over a corked bat and waiting for his next at bat.

Which he will also strike out.

Finally when it's already too late, recruiting is well under way, he'll hit a shallow fly to short trying simply to get on base, instead popping out and costing the university millions. Losing his job and making his replacement clean up the mess after whatever Hoke-like below average coach continues to sink the program for the next handful of years.
 


it just keeps getting dragged out.... didnt maturi say a week n a half ago, 2 weeks.... then this artilce is sayin mid december.... wtf
 

The existing coaches have been talking about a recruiting weekend on the 10th so I fully expect a coach in place before that date.
 

There is absolutely no way that Maturi is getting turned down left and right. A million football coaches would kill to be the head coach of a Big 10 team with a brand new stadium. I cannot begin to accept this rumor.

As stated above, if this is the case, Maturi would hire Fulmer, or Leach. Both are prove commodities with proven track records. If everyone was shooting Maturi down one of those guys would already be in place and Maturi would be riding in to the sunset of his AD days with the knowledge that either one of those guys would STIMULATE the fan base.

As others continue to state, I have a weird feeling that Maturi does have his man, and is simply waiting for a resolution on a contract, or the end of the college football season.

Side note I have never said this before, and I may never say this again, but gosh dang this season is dragging on. I want to watch some great games tomorrow, read some more speculation, and be rewarded with a HUGE announcement from Maturi on Monday.
 

I agree with you Law Abiding....

I can't imagine that we've contacted a dozen coaches and offered to double their salary, a chance to coach in the Big 10 with realistic/limited expectations and no probation or anything like that, and they've all said no. It just doesn't make sense. I realize that we aren't in the best position as a program (being 4th fiddle in the city), lame duck AD, not a great history of success, alumni sabatoging the search, etc., but that is why we all have realistic expectations.

If we were told that we have gone after only the A+ coaches (Dungy, Harbaugh, Patterson, etc.), I would believe it. However, when we are talking about the Brady Hoke's, Troy Calhoun's, and Jerry Kill's of the world, I just can't buy that they aren't interested.
 

I think the one thing that seems obvious...anyone who says they have a source that says this, or that... probably has about as much accurate information as my cat. Not that folks are not hearing things.. but most is BS.. I'm guessing we know by now that everyone in the free world has interviewed, turned us down, then decided they were interested again. Come on folks!

Also, boosters like to think they know what is going on..because that is how the "U" makes them feel. They feed them something here or there, but a booster typically would not know what is really going on.

Maturi may well strike out... but I'm willing to let it play out and hope for the best. I think the Brewster hire wasn't made by Maturi because nobody wanted the job but Brewster, Maturi made the wrong call. I don't see that as much of a risk here.. he is aiming higher and my guess is there are plenty of solid BCS type coaches that would be interested for the right price. We will see.
 

What about a booster w/ a private jet that Maturi needs to use? He might know what's goin' on.
 


What about a booster w/ a private jet that Maturi needs to use? He might know what's goin' on.
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So this Booster has been told about 5 different guys want the job or are getting the job? Do we really think there is only one booster flying Maturi around the country? The U is not that hard up. Sure, a Booster may be used in the final stages and obviously knows its related to the head coaching search... but why assume they know exactly what is going on.. Unless the new head coach was on the plane, cannot see how their information is more credible than anyone elses. That said, if the booster who owns a plane actually had a candidate on the plane... i would be much more likely to buy into the speculation.
 


Rouser said:
So this Booster has been told about 5 different guys want the job or are getting the job? Do we really think there is only one booster flying Maturi around the country? The U is not that hard up. Sure, a Booster may be used in the final stages and obviously knows its related to the head coaching search... but why assume they know exactly what is going on.. Unless the new head coach was on the plane, cannot see how their information is more credible than anyone elses. That said, if the booster who owns a plane actually had a candidate on the plane... i would be much more likely to buy into the speculation.
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Is the "U" that hard up? They had Maturi flying commercial to San Diego as of three weeks ago... I would say YES.
 

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