Season Ticket Renewal Deadline is 4/15

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Gave up my 4, another couple we know have had season tix for 30 yrs and did not renew

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You don't make donations mandatory. Unless the Gophers come out smoking and I mean go 3-0 in the non conference and beat Penn State in the first road game TCF
Stadium will be an empty.parking lot. Season tickets sales as of right now are way down. They're really going to have to sell a lot of the 2 pack promotions to fill that stadium.
 


2nd Degree Gopher said:
I appreciate you sharing your history. I don’t like that the economics of major college athletics has changed to the point that it has. I understand why the schools always want more money, but the loss of long term, loyal fans is problematic. As you mention, you will be able to get tickets for as many games as you wish and you’ll save money, but for some people–including me and I suspect you as well–there is a hard to quantify (or rationally justify) benefit to being a season ticket holder and the loss of that connection is real.

My small group tailgates before and usually after every game. I’d be happy to host you sometime if you lack a place to hang before a game. Just promise not to brag about how much less you paid for your tickets than I did for mine. :)
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Thank you for your response to my post !!
I will always be a Gopher Just not buying all the tickets I have in the past.
Not that many years ago I had season tickets for Gopher Basketball and Hockey also.
Nothing better than Gopher Football !!!
 

It is a free market.
If you feel you are being taken for a sucker buy tickets for individual games for a fraction of a season ticket and feel very smart.
If you feel good by buying season tickets to help support the program good on you.
There is no right or wrong here.
 


I think one of the things that keeps this topic alive is that we as Americans and consumers are just hard wired to expect and demand discounts when you buy in bulk. I wouldn't buy a case of peanut butter if it cost me double per ounce of what they charge for a single jar. It's not just consumer goods, Places like the Valleyfair, Science Museum, Guthrie all sell season passes for 2-3 times the cost of going there once which ends up being a huge discount for people who go regularly.

Sports seem to be the exception and it can be hard to grasp but the Twins do it, the Vikings do it. It's more like an airline seat than a commodity like peanut butter, it has specific limited availability and an expiration date. If you want to guarantee your seat in advance you pay full price, if your flexible on when you can go, willing to accept missing a flight altogether you can get a last minute deal. A smart consumer can look at bookings and make a pretty good judgement on how open a flight is and what his risk is of not having availability. The difference is that with season tickets your not only buying these tickets but pre-buying the right to keep buying them and they can sell you on the fact that they may not be in high demand right now but they may be in the future.

Gophers are at a precarious point, not only can consumers (barring large groups that want to sit exactly together) know that they can pay less and get the same seats, the gap is now wide enough and the premium seats empty enough that they can pay less and get better seats than they have now. Also it's pretty clear you could opt out now and come back in the future and get season tickets again and probably be exactly where you are now.

So buying season tickets is more than ever consciously donating to the program beyond the market price of the tickets.
 

LakerFan said:
I think one of the things that keeps this topic alive is that we as Americans and consumers are just hard wired to expect and demand discounts when you buy in bulk. I wouldn't buy a case of peanut butter if it cost me double per ounce of what they charge for a single jar. It's not just consumer goods, Places like the Valleyfair, Science Museum, Guthrie all sell season passes for 2-3 times the cost of going there once which ends up being a huge discount for people who go regularly.

Sports seem to be the exception and it can be hard to grasp but the Twins do it, the Vikings do it. It's more like an airline seat than a commodity like peanut butter, it has specific limited availability and an expiration date. If you want to guarantee your seat in advance you pay full price, if your flexible on when you can go, willing to accept missing a flight altogether you can get a last minute deal. A smart consumer can look at bookings and make a pretty good judgement on how open a flight is and what his risk is of not having availability. The difference is that with season tickets your not only buying these tickets but pre-buying the right to keep buying them and they can sell you on the fact that they may not be in high demand right now but they may be in the future.

Gophers are at a precarious point, not only can consumers (barring large groups that want to sit exactly together) know that they can pay less and get the same seats, the gap is now wide enough and the premium seats empty enough that they can pay less and get better seats than they have now. Also it's pretty clear you could opt out now and come back in the future and get season tickets again and probably be exactly where you are now.

So buying season tickets is more than ever consciously donating to the program beyond the market price of the tickets.
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Well said.
 

I totally get and understand prices go up over time. They should. My biggest complaint is this: I have had season tickets for ten years. The first eight years they went up a total of $50. The last two years, my tickets are going up $75, $150, and I think $300 next year. This is crazy. It doesn't make sense with the last eight years. It would be a lot easier to understand and pay if the tickets went up $25 a year.

I had a thread a while ago about what happens in 2018? Norwood/the U laid out a three year scholarship plan - that was 2015, 2016, and 2017. What happens in 2018? Does anyone know?
 




MNfootballfan said:
I had a thread a while ago about what happens in 2018? Norwood/the U laid out a three year scholarship plan - that was 2015, 2016, and 2017. What happens in 2018? Does anyone know?
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I wouldn't worry about 2018. In the next year or two season ticket prices are much more likely to go down than up.
 


UpnorthGo4 said:
I wouldn't worry about 2018. In the next year or two season ticket prices are much more likely to go down than up.
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Will be interesting to see if the new AD takes a look at the current plan and decides to alter it based on demand and what not. If I had to guess I would say prices will stay the same in 2018 as they were in 2017 unless the demand for tickets is just so high that they feel they can get away with another price hike.
 

Marketing/Season Ticket staff, etc. will be laying the 2017 concerns about the donation process and decrease in renewals for this season on the desk of the new AD.

My question is, why do they have to wait? Can't/couldn't Beth have addressed the issue? Maybe she passed it off to the incoming AD or to herself if she earns the job.

IMO, 2017 renewals will be a huge issue unless TC and crew have a fantastic season. If that happens, maybe the problem will take care of itself and ST sales will start to increase. 2016 could be a pivotal season in many ways.
 



Bayfieldgopher said:
My question is, why do they have to wait? Can't/couldn't Beth have addressed the issue? Maybe she passed it off to the incoming AD or to herself if she earns the job.
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Or maybe she agrees with what is being implemented.
 

It is an arms race.
For example WI donations to athletics are twice as much as MN.
The TV money will be divided so MN and WI get the same amount.
So WI still is ahead in the arms race.
Thus 'involuntary' donations to buy season tickets has to increase to try to at least not fall farther behind.
is it a dangerous move when supply exceeds demand? Yes, but what is the alternative?
Will the increase in revenue if it occurs translate into increased success?
That is the 64$ question.
 

MNfootballfan said:
I totally get and understand prices go up over time. They should. My biggest complaint is this: I have had season tickets for ten years. The first eight years they went up a total of $50. The last two years, my tickets are going up $75, $150, and I think $300 next year. This is crazy. It doesn't make sense with the last eight years. It would be a lot easier to understand and pay if the tickets went up $25 a year.

I had a thread a while ago about what happens in 2018? Norwood/the U laid out a three year scholarship plan - that was 2015, 2016, and 2017. What happens in 2018? Does anyone know?
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you confuse ticket prices with donations

first ticket prices haven't gone up in a long time. they have actually stayed pretty level. that is the down fall in 2018 while the donations have gone up. tickets stayed the same. season ticket holders will be lost but the place to make more money in 2018 will be in the ticket prices. since more and more people are buying less season tickets and therefore buying signal game tickets at the same price (without donations)they have been for 5 years or more the U will increase revenue by raising the price of the tickets themselves

Norwood had a brilliant plan for a program that had excess fans that were waiting in line to buy tickets. and of course even with the dropped ticket holders the U will make more money as the donations this year for many seats are as much as the tickets themselves. so basically doubling the tickets that were bought this season. so anything less than a 50% renewal in season tickets, the U will make more money.

but as the donations increase happens again next year and more full package buyers are lost (and a few new ones gained) the U will still make more money though the donations unless more than 50% drop off.

now in 2018 where the signal game ticket sales are increasingly more popular and visiting fans can get those rivalry game tickets cheaper by the single game the U will then realize they need to increase their income by raising the ticket prices. the spin will be they havent touched the ticket prices in about 10 years.

i would almost bet the house this is the way it will happen and if not in 2018 by 2020 this will become reality
 

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