Season 4 of the Comparable 4 (+1)

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Coaching?? This is 2024. Not 1994 or our childhoods.

In case you need me to translate:

Ben was developing a rapidly improving team...until the Texas schools bought our players. Etc., etc. There are several reasons why Minnesota will NEVER be a winning program. No coach in the world could win here. Our administration won't allow it. Even officiating won't allow it. Etc.
 

Is all about the money!

All this crap I read on hear about coaching and recruiting....they may be important but the gophers will never significantly better without a whole lot more NIL money. They'll to be fodder for the teams that have the money.
 

AgedFan said:
Is all about the money!

All this crap I read on hear about coaching and recruiting....they may be important but the gophers will never significantly better without a whole lot more NIL money. They'll to be fodder for the teams that have the money.
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So the past 30 yrs was about greenbacks?
 

EasyThere Pilgrim said:
Coaching?? This is 2024. Not 1994 or our childhoods.

In case you need me to translate:

Ben was developing a rapidly improving team...until the Texas schools bought our players. Etc., etc. There are several reasons why Minnesota will NEVER be a winning program. No coach in the world could win here. Our administration won't allow it. Even officiating won't allow it. Etc.
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As I've heard on here before, we are definitely no Penn State.
 


EasyThere Pilgrim said:
Coaching?? This is 2024. Not 1994 or our childhoods.

In case you need me to translate:

Ben was developing a rapidly improving team...until the Texas schools bought our players. Etc., etc. There are several reasons why Minnesota will NEVER be a winning program. No coach in the world could win here. Our administration won't allow it. Even officiating won't allow it. Etc.
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You're right, those factors hold us back and make it impossible to match the level of success of the rich historic blue bloods like *checks notes* Iowa State.
 

EasyThere Pilgrim said:
Coaching?? This is 2024. Not 1994 or our childhoods.

In case you need me to translate:

Ben was developing a rapidly improving team...until the Texas schools bought our players. Etc., etc. There are several reasons why Minnesota will NEVER be a winning program. No coach in the world could win here. Our administration won't allow it. Even officiating won't allow it. Etc.
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And you’re a fan here why?
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
You're right, those factors hold us back and make it impossible to match the level of success of the rich historic blue bloods like *checks notes* Iowa State.
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I have no idea if Iowa State pays for players or pays to retain players. Or if their administration suspends players when the team is good. Or if they get good officiating.

One thing I GUARANTEE...is that their coach would fail at Minnesota.
 




Picked 18th and praying to beat expectations and finish 15th in the conference is all we can ask for. No other coach could possibly do better than Ben. :rolleyes:
 


Our first in-season update for 2024-25. TJ Otzelberger still has yet to lose a game to a non-Power 5/6 opponent in his 4th season in Ames.

Updated through November 30, 2024
1 TJ Otzelberger (Iowa State) -- 75-36 overall (67.6%), 47-36 vs. Power 5/6 (56.6%), NCAA Tournament Appearances/Record (3/4-3), no NIT appearances

2 Craig Smith (Utah) -- 56-51 overall (52.3%), 29-47 vs. Power 5/6 (38.2%), no NCAA appearances, 1 NIT appearance (3-1)

3 Micah Shrewsberry (2 seasons @ Penn State/2nd @ Notre Dame) -- 54-55 overall (49.5%), 35-51 vs. Power 5/6 (40.7%), NCAA Tournament Appearances/Record (1/1-1), no NIT appearances

4 Ben Johnson (Minnesota) -- 46-57 overall (44.7%), 19-52 vs. Power 5/6 (26.8%), no NCAA appearances, 1 NIT appearance (1-1)

Next Update: Jan. 1, 2025
 
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Micah Shrewsberry replacement at Penn State Mike Rhoades (in 2nd season) an addition to our updates.

Updated through December 15, 2024
1 TJ Otzelberger (Iowa State) -- 79-36 overall (68.7%), 49-36 vs. Power 5 (57.6%), NCAA Tournament Appearances/Record (3/4-3), no NIT appearances

2 Craig Smith (Utah) -- 57-52 overall (52.3%), 29-47 vs. Power 5 (38.2%), no NCAA appearances, 1 NIT appearance (3-1)

3 Micah Shrewsberry (2 seasons @ Penn State/2nd @ Notre Dame) -- 56-56 overall (50%), 36-52 vs. Power 5 (40.9%), NCAA Tournament Appearances/Record (1/1-1), no NIT appearances

4 Ben Johnson (Minnesota) -- 47-59 overall (44.3%), 19-54 vs. Power 5 (26%), no NCAA appearances, 1 NIT appearance (1-1)

For Sh*ts & Giggles
Mike Rhoades (2nd season @ Penn State) -- 25-19 overall (56.8%), 12-17 vs. Power 5 (41.4%), no NCAA or NIT appearances

Next Update: Jan. 20, 2025
 



SelectionSunday said:
Micah Shrewsberry replacement at Penn State Mike Rhoades (in 2nd season) an addition to our updates.

Updated through December 15, 2024
1 TJ Otzelberger (Iowa State) -- 79-36 overall (68.7%), 49-36 vs. Power 5 (57.6%), NCAA Tournament Appearances/Record (3/4-3), no NIT appearances

2 Craig Smith (Utah) -- 57-52 overall (52.3%), 29-47 vs. Power 5 (38.2%), no NCAA appearances, 1 NIT appearance (3-1)

3 Micah Shrewsberry (2 seasons @ Penn State/2nd @ Notre Dame) -- 56-56 overall (50%), 36-52 vs. Power 5 (40.9%), NCAA Tournament Appearances/Record (1/1-1), no NIT appearances

4 Ben Johnson (Minnesota) -- 47-59 overall (44.3%), 19-54 vs. Power 5 (26%), no NCAA appearances, 1 NIT appearance (1-1)

For Sh*ts & Giggles
Mike Rhoades (2nd season @ Penn State) -- 25-19 overall (56.8%), 12-17 vs. Power 5 (41.4%), no NCAA or NIT appearances

Next Update: Jan. 20, 2025
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Holy moly! Ok, the office will be cleaned out this week.
 


Micah Shrewsberry replacement at Penn State Mike Rhoades (in 2nd season) an addition to our updates.

Updated through December 31, 2024
1. TJ Otzelberger (Iowa State) -- 81-36 overall (69.2%), 50-36 vs. Power 5 (58.1%), NCAA Tournament Appearances/Record (3/4-3), no NIT appearances

2. Mike Rhoades (2nd season @ Penn State) -- 27-19 overall (58.7%), 12-17 vs. Power 5 (41.4%), no NCAA or NIT appearances

3. Craig Smith (Utah) -- 58-54 overall (51.8%), 29-49 vs. Power 5 (37.2%), no NCAA appearances, 1 NIT appearance (3-1)

4. Micah Shrewsberry (2 seasons @ Penn State/2nd @ Notre Dame) -- 57-57 overall (50%), 36-53 vs. Power 5 (40.4%), NCAA Tournament Appearances/Record (1/1-1), no NIT appearances

5. Ben Johnson (Minnesota) -- 49-59 overall (45.4%), 19-54 vs. Power 5 (26%), no NCAA appearances, 1 NIT appearance (1-1)

Next Update: Jan. 20, 2025
 




Spottedmuskie said:
Interesting, TJ looked average at SDSU, but now look at the squad he has #3 in the nation. Very impressed, if only..
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Thought he was good at SDSU, although quite a few of their fans told me he rode the coat tails of the guy who went to Wright State, proof in the putting that he can coach now, if anything he was mediocre at UNLV. It's partly why I don't want to close the door on Craig Smith or Nikko, maybe Minnesota is there Iowa State and for Craig, Utah is his UNLV. Niko been way better at CSU then TJ was at a better job at UNLV
 

Strongazzoffer said:
Thought he was good at SDSU, although quite a few of their fans told me he rode the coat tails of the guy who went to Wright State, proof in the putting that he can coach now, if anything he was mediocre at UNLV. It's partly why I don't want to close the door on Craig Smith or Nikko, maybe Minnesota is there Iowa State and for Craig, Utah is his UNLV. Niko been way better at CSU then TJ was at a better job at UNLV
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I hear ya, personally I feel he was medicore at both UNLV and SDSU. What did he tell the AD at Iowa State during the interview? "I just need better players!" and maybe he was right.. although he looked a lot better at UNLV and SDSU then Ben did here...
 

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