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e.bigelow said:
Scott Frost is a colossal tool. Basically said in a news conference that he thought his players weren't 'tough' because they wore hoodies outside while warming up for the Minnesota game. Also said you got 'beat-up' in his day for doing that. He's a knob.
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Every time I hear more from SF i feel like he really is crotchety old man trapped in a young man's body. My fear of Nebraska achieving what Frost achieved at UCF is pretty much dissipated. More likely he gets a buyout in 2 years when the players turn on him after they tire of being thrown under the bus.

Basically by saying his guys aren't tough and he wants them to be tough, he's declaring he's incapable of coaching them into the type of players he wants, or really poor at selecting players that are right or coachable.
 

LakerFan said:
Every time I hear more from SF i feel like he really is crotchety old man trapped in a young man's body. My fear of Nebraska achieving what Frost achieved at UCF is pretty much dissipated. More likely he gets a buyout in 2 years when the players turn on him after they tire of being thrown under the bus.

Basically by saying his guys aren't tough and he wants them to be tough, he's declaring he's incapable of coaching them into the type of players he wants, or really poor at selecting players that are right or coachable.
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It's a funny contrast.

Bo was seen as friendly to the players but 'mean' to the fans.

Scott seems to be the opposite.

Bo did much better...
 

go4rob said:
At the BIG 10 Media Days in Chicago in late July, Nebraska was the favorite pick to win the West:

Wide open West: Who do you like in the Big Ten West? Nebraska is the trendy dark horse pick. Wisconsin is the once-dominant regular. Northwestern is the defending champion. Purdue beat Ohio State last season. It seems there are no wrong answers. Pat Fitzgerald's Wildcats have won 15 of their last 16 conference games. After going 8-1 in the conference last season, Iowa, Wisconsin and Purdue all tied at 5-4. Scott Frost seemingly has Nebraska poised after finishing strong. Wisconsin should bounce back with 2,000-yard rusher Jonathan Taylor and steady Paul Chryst. Kirk Ferentz is currently the game's longest-tenured coach. Whoever wins probably faces an uphill battle against the Big Ten East champion in the conference title game, but you already knew that. Forget Ohio State and Michigan on the other side of the bracket in any given year. In the history of the Big Ten title game, when the West team is favored, it is 1-3.
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Ya, for some reason the national sports media wanted so desperately for the Huskers to be relevant again…or at least think they're still relevant. And it is still going on. In the “Top Headlines” section of ESPN’s College Football page just this week I’ve seen the stories “Huskers turn to No. 3 QB Luke McCaffrey after Noah Vedral injured“, and “Indiana AD's remark on Cornhuskers' lack of respect baffles Scott Frost”. Newsworthy stuff?…maybe. Top headline stuff?…nah. But, hey…Nebraska.
 

Schnauzer said:
Frost press conferences are rapidly looking like he is in over his head. He has provided a steady drumbeat of throwing his players under the bus and now this whole hoodie thing is really bizarre.

Not sure how he could have had the success he had at central Florida and now look overmatched at Nebraska. They had a great, but damning segment on him on the most recent Bigger Ten podcast. They compared him to Steve Alford at Iowa. Perhaps in the end Nebraska is paying him a lot of money for on the job training that will help him at a different job down the road.

Maybe he will pull things together at Nebraska. But maybe it will get worse.
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He's fine. I actually think he's a good coach and he'll get Nebraska back. He needs time to get different players and change attitudes. All he was saying in this press conference is some of his players are soft. Sometimes that's the truth and you just say it. He's struggling with culture.
 

LakerFan said:
Every time I hear more from SF i feel like he really is crotchety old man trapped in a young man's body. My fear of Nebraska achieving what Frost achieved at UCF is pretty much dissipated. More likely he gets a buyout in 2 years when the players turn on him after they tire of being thrown under the bus.

Basically by saying his guys aren't tough and he wants them to be tough, he's declaring he's incapable of coaching them into the type of players he wants, or really poor at selecting players that are right or coachable.
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Exactly. And to stand at a podium, wearing a hoodie, telling media how bad it was for players to be wearing hoodies in warmups begs one big coaching question: Why didn't you tell your players to not wear hoodies in warmups? That is a coaching problem. Not a player problem.
 



Agree with everything that has been said already in this thread and per Schnauser's recommendation will also encourage you to listen to the podcast here:

Bigger Ten - Bigger Ten: Breaking Down Week Nine | Listen via Stitcher for Podcasts
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/jon-miller-2/bigger-ten

I have suspected for at least a year that Frost is a great example of a brilliant athlete that can't coach. He can achieve incredible things naturally and athletically himself but can't coach his players to do the same. Frost and CO. back in 1997 had Tom Osbourne to recruit, motivate and develop them but now Frost is finding out just how difficult it is to recruit, coach and develop the right players for Nebraska to compete in the Big Ten.
 

GopherDog1 said:
Agree with everything that has been said already in this thread and per Schnauser's recommendation will also encourage you to listen to the podcast here:

Bigger Ten - Bigger Ten: Breaking Down Week Nine | Listen via Stitcher for Podcasts
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/jon-miller-2/bigger-ten

I have suspected for at least a year that Frost is a great example of a brilliant athlete that can't coach. He can achieve incredible things naturally and athletically himself but can't coach his players to do the same. Frost and CO. back in 1997 had Tom Osbourne to recruit, motivate and develop them but now Frost is finding out just how difficult it is to recruit, coach and develop the right players for Nebraska to compete in the Big Ten.
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Anyone who has had a very smart person who intuitively understands a subject like say math ... knows how horrible a teacher they can be for folks who don't intuitively get it.
 

Schnauzer said:
Exactly. And to stand at a podium, wearing a hoodie, telling media how bad it was for players to be wearing hoodies in warmups begs one big coaching question: Why didn't you tell your players to not wear hoodies in warmups? That is a coaching problem. Not a player problem.
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Exactly. He could of simply said his team, or players, need to be more tough/physical/whatever and left it at that. Or kept it related to the play on the field. Instead he chooses to make some asinine comment about them wearing hoodies in warm-ups and equate that to toughness. Which is a joke.
 



GopherDog1 said:
Agree with everything that has been said already in this thread and per Schnauser's recommendation will also encourage you to listen to the podcast here:

Bigger Ten - Bigger Ten: Breaking Down Week Nine | Listen via Stitcher for Podcasts
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/jon-miller-2/bigger-ten

I have suspected for at least a year that Frost is a great example of a brilliant athlete that can't coach. He can achieve incredible things naturally and athletically himself but can't coach his players to do the same. Frost and CO. back in 1997 had Tom Osbourne to recruit, motivate and develop them but now Frost is finding out just how difficult it is to recruit, coach and develop the right players for Nebraska to compete in the Big Ten.
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Whether or not Frost is able to turn Nebraska around remains to be seen, but he already proved that he could coach by turning Central Florida around from winless to undefeated two years later. He was also highly thought of as Oregon's offensive coordinator before that. Sometimes coaches are a good fit at one school and terrible at the next. Look how well Rich Rodriguez did at West Virginia and then was quite bad at Michigan, and then had a nice run for a few years at Arizona. Did he just forget how to coach for those three years at Michigan? Charlie Strong did a nice job at Louisville and brought them to a BCS bowl. Then he struggled for three years at Texas and was fired. Did he just forget how to coach. One can argue at least in these two cases that it's easier to turn a program around at a small school, but with a big school it is a lot harder with the expectation and all of the extra things you have to do.

Again, I have no idea if Frost will be able to bring Nebraska back from the dead. I think most likely thing is he's able to get them to the level that Bo Pelini had them at and not much more, but it'll take another couple of years.
 

IronOre said:
Whether or not Frost is able to turn Nebraska around remains to be seen, but he already proved that he could coach by turning Central Florida around from winless to undefeated two years later. He was also highly thought of as Oregon's offensive coordinator before that. Sometimes coaches are a good fit at one school and terrible at the next. Look how well Rich Rodriguez did at West Virginia and then was quite bad at Michigan, and then had a nice run for a few years at Arizona. Did he just forget how to coach for those three years at Michigan? Charlie Strong did a nice job at Louisville and brought them to a BCS bowl. Then he struggled for three years at Texas and was fired. Did he just forget how to coach. One can argue at least in these two cases that it's easier to turn a program around at a small school, but with a big school it is a lot harder with the expectation and all of the extra things you have to do.

Again, I have no idea if Frost will be able to bring Nebraska back from the dead. I think most likely thing is he's able to get them to the level that Bo Pelini had them at and not much more, but it'll take another couple of years.
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Maybe I should have said "can't coach in the Big Ten". I agree with you though, he did win at UCF but he had recruits in his back yard there. Not so in Lincoln. As you said, it remains to be seen.
 

GopherDog1 said:
Maybe I should have said "can't coach in the Big Ten". I agree with you though, he did win at UCF but he had recruits in his back yard there. Not so in Lincoln. As you said, it remains to be seen.
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After Frost was hired at Nebraska, someone on the r/cfb subreddit made a joke that it will be interesting to see how Frost adjusts when he can't shake a three star recruit out of every tree in Florida anymore.
 

BeerFueledFF said:
After Frost was hired at Nebraska, someone on the r/cfb subreddit made a joke that it will be interesting to see how Frost adjusts when he can't shake a three star recruit out of every tree in Florida anymore.
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Yeah I think we've seen time and again you pickup a successful coach from a conference where the competition is a bit more even and put them in the P5 and ... it's just not the same.
 



TurfGopher said:
That day was 35 degrees and rain/snow. The weather sucked. I question the people who are going shirtless in warm ups, completely unnecessary Bud Grant B.S.
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Bud Grant knew how to use the cold weather to his advantage. His mental approach worked! Minnesota teams need to embrace the cold and dare other teams to come up here to play!

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I'm a believer in Scott Frost. I've seen him as a winner, both playing the game and in his past coaching experiences. Crow tastes terrible, I've eaten it in the past :)
 

BroncoRedux said:
I'm a believer in Scott Frost. I've seen him as a winner, both playing the game and in his past coaching experiences. Crow tastes terrible, I've eaten it in the past :)
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I think you are preparing your crow wrong, you need to marinate it properly.
 


A team/organization is a reflection of their leader.

“Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets.” - Deming

Old school discipline is based upon macho, ridicule and fear. It feeds on the drive to accomplish things because you are afraid not to.

New school discipline is based upon improvements, goals, teaching and encouragement. It feeds on the drive to accomplish things because you want to.

We have just seen some perfect examples of these types of leadership in how to address a game in cold weather. One doesn’t prepare differently for the cold and then ridicules his players for not being tough enough. The other decides to have his players thrive in the cold by practicing in the cold and have ball handlers stick their hands in buckets of ice water between plays.

It is a matter of anticipating the challenges and giving your players the tools (education and confidence) to deal with them. A poor leader just assumes you know what they want and then criticizes you for not reading their mind.


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I think Frost is a good coach and he will do well at Nebraska in time. It takes a few years as we've learned...
 

John Galt said:
I think Frost is a good coach and he will do well at Nebraska in time. It takes a few years as we've learned...
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All the pre-season hype for Nebraska...hahaha...gotta love it. Nebraska will never be a powerhouse anytime soon. They have to stop living in the past. Heck they even hired a coach from the past. Scotty Frost is the chosen-son. How has that worked for them...? He has top recruits, top-notch facilities and all the $$ he needs to win. Not gonna happen anytime soon. Even more funny, the Nebraska fans still bask in the their 1995 Starter jackets. When they decide a build a "NEW" future...maybe they'll start doing better. But for now...they cling to the past.

hahahahaha....And the biggest farce is this quote from Nebraska: The Huskers finally have the “right coach” and the “right A.D.” and the “right plan.”
 


I can't remember where I was reading it, but I saw a recent discussion about Nebraska football that was looking for examples of other "blue blood" programs that have fallen off like they have. My question is, "When is a program no longer a blue blood?"

I would assume that in the middle of the 20th century, Minnesota would have been considered a "blue blood" program or even a "helmet school". Pick your term. When did they lose that distinction?

How far away does Nebraska have to be from a national championship or even a conference championship before they become just another program? Or are they already there in the eyes of all but their own fans?
 

HopHead said:
I can't remember where I was reading it, but I saw a recent discussion about Nebraska football that was looking for examples of other "blue blood" programs that have fallen off like they have. My question is, "When is a program no longer a blue blood?"

I would assume that in the middle of the 20th century, Minnesota would have been considered a "blue blood" program or even a "helmet school". Pick your term. When did they lose that distinction?

How far away does Nebraska have to be from a national championship or even a conference championship before they become just another program? Or are they already there in the eyes of all but their own fans?
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IMO and IMO only, they still seem to recruit above what would be justified by their facilities, location and recent history. That means to me they still have the mystique of a blue blood. How long they can string that out we'll see. When they can no longer pull in top 20ish classes I'll say they're done.
 

e.bigelow said:
Scott Frost is a colossal tool. Basically said in a news conference that he thought his players weren't 'tough' because they wore hoodies outside while warming up for the Minnesota game. Also said you got 'beat-up' in his day for doing that. He's a knob.
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And he says this while wearing a hoodie!
Anyone old enough to remember when the White Sox held Disco Demolition day at Comiskey back in the late 1970s? It would be a really fun promotion if Nebraska hosted a Hoodie Demolition Night at the end of their last home game.
 

I listened to those bloggers that someone posted on here a few days ago. I thought they said they have 20 four star recruits in his first two classes. That is a pretty good start. So once his recruits start coming through Nebraska could be the team everyone thought they would be when Frost was hired.
I don't know how many four start recruits we have had in the last two years.
 

Thanks for the article - sent it off to our good friends that are huge Nebraska fans :)
 

mjfelton15 said:
Frost says he wishes his players were more like Gophers

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This kind of reminds me of the Joe Salem hire decades ago. Quarterback from the golden era returns to bring the program back to glory. One significant difference, Salem had a much more head coaching experience coming into the job than Frost. Gopher oldtimers how that all turned out. (To Frost's credit, he was a much better quarterback.)
 

I think the handling of the Maurice Washington situation (not just the child porn case) was the beginning of the end, as far as this season goes. The blue chip players probably think they can get away with pretty much anything, and the others may feel some resentment toward that special treatment. He might need to kick someone off the team to get their attention.


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harley_gopher said:
All the pre-season hype for Nebraska...hahaha...gotta love it. Nebraska will never be a powerhouse anytime soon. They have to stop living in the past. Heck they even hired a coach from the past. Scotty Frost is the chosen-son. How has that worked for them...? He has top recruits, top-notch facilities and all the $$ he needs to win. Not gonna happen anytime soon. Even more funny, the Nebraska fans still bask in the their 1995 Starter jackets. When they decide a build a "NEW" future...maybe they'll start doing better. But for now...they cling to the past.

hahahahaha....And the biggest farce is this quote from Nebraska: The Huskers finally have the “right coach” and the “right A.D.” and the “right plan.”
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Obviously you're not a Frost fan but you have to admit he did a hell of a job at UCF and it's only been a few years so you have to give him some time. He may indeed bomb as you stated but you never know
 

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