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Quote from Brew in the current Strib article regarding our offense moving forward:

"Play-action will be a huge part of what we do," Brewster said. "Also we're going to utilize the quarterback as a runner, to move the pocket and do different things."

I wonder how much of a change in philosophy this will be from to last year. Does this pave the way for Gray to be the starter?
 

These things change so slowly. If I've learned anything from Brew this year is that when he says "more", it's usually like "one more". Much like how Gray played more in the Bowl game. So the QB might run once more per game.
 

By moving I'm gonna assume he means simply rolling him out with the option to run if there's nothing.
 

Schnoodler said:
These things change so slowly. If I've learned anything from Brew this year is that when he says "more", it's usually like "one more". Much like how Gray played more in the Bowl game. So the QB might run once more per game.
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You're probably right, what Brew says will happen and what actually happens are two different things many times.
 

In an attempt to nudge this thread back toward a football discussion, here is the football explanation for what Brewster said:

Look at what Iowa and Wisconsin do with their QBs every year. Ohio State also does this a lot with Pryor.

By rolling the QB out of the pocket, you cut down on the "confusion" that comes from sitting in the pocket and having to go through a progression. You cut off half the field, thus cutting off half the defense, and the QB is able to be an athlete. He will typically have one read to make, which makes it simple. If option A is not open, the QB is instructed to throw to option B. If option B is gone, the QB tucks and runs (which is why Brewster mentioned the QB running the ball more- it is all part of the play).

Play action can be run out of a number of different formations. If the defense over-compensates for what they think the QB will do, it takes a defender out of the box and thus makes it easier to run the ball. If they stack the box, the OLB has a tough time getting out to flat and either a receiver or a QB running lane opens up. Having an athletic QB makes this even better, as if the QB can get to the edge he has a lot of room to run (see: Pryor at Ohio State).

This is all assuming that Brewster was talking about bootlegs and waggles rather than an Iso play fake, though that will probably be incorporated as well since it is fairly simple to install and is in the playbook of every team in America.

That's the basic idea.
 


The 12th Man said:
In an attempt to nudge this thread back toward a football discussion, here is the football explanation for what Brewster said:

Look at what Iowa and Wisconsin do with their QBs every year. Ohio State also does this a lot with Pryor.

By rolling the QB out of the pocket, you cut down on the "confusion" that comes from sitting in the pocket and having to go through a progression. You cut off half the field, thus cutting off half the defense, and the QB is able to be an athlete. He will typically have one read to make, which makes it simple. If option A is not open, the QB is instructed to throw to option B. If option B is gone, the QB tucks and runs (which is why Brewster mentioned the QB running the ball more- it is all part of the play).

Play action can be run out of a number of different formations. If the defense over-compensates for what they think the QB will do, it takes a defender out of the box and thus makes it easier to run the ball. If they stack the box, the OLB has a tough time getting out to flat and either a receiver or a QB running lane opens up. Having an athletic QB makes this even better, as if the QB can get to the edge he has a lot of room to run (see: Pryor at Ohio State).

This is all assuming that Brewster was talking about bootlegs and waggles rather than an Iso play fake, though that will probably be incorporated as well since it is fairly simple to install and is in the playbook of every team in America.

That's the basic idea.
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are you Tim Brewster?
 

I hope we allow whoever is the QB next year to run more. 12th Man thanks for your post. Weber is better when he gets out of the pocket. There were times this year where you could sense he wanted to run but didn't and could have gotten yardage. Very happy about the hire.
 

ButchNashGuy said:
I hope we allow whoever is the QB next year to run more. 12th Man thanks for your post. Weber is better when he gets out of the pocket. There were times this year where you could sense he wanted to run but didn't and could have gotten yardage. Very happy about the hire.
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Absolutely!
 

Can he throw on the run? I was surprised that they didn't roll him out more this year when he
had so much trouble with sacks. Plus, you could see Pryor running the boot and having so much
success. Not that Weber has his wheels.
 




The 12th Man said:
No, just someone who likes to know what I am watching.
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12th Man, I appreciated your post. I am still "light" on the x's and o's of football and these kinds of posts are always helpful for me! I would love to see our QB be more mobile next year, whether it be Weber or Gray.
 

What about Gray at WR? If Minnesota continues to employ a pro-style offensive scheme then Gray is probably not the best choice. He can run well but I am not convinced he is a great pocket-passer. What about Alipate? Do you guys think he can compete with Weber or take over after next season?
 

PapaHawk21 said:
What about Gray at WR? If Minnesota continues to employ a pro-style offensive scheme then Gray is probably not the best choice. He can run well but I am not convinced he is a great pocket-passer. What about Alipate? Do you guys think he can compete with Weber or take over after next season?
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That's exactly what I was thinking. Idk much about him but my cousin played against him in HS and he and my uncle say he's a beast: born to be a pocket passer and good at it. Like I said though personally I do not know much about him
 



PapaHawk21 said:
What about Gray at WR? If Minnesota continues to employ a pro-style offensive scheme then Gray is probably not the best choice. He can run well but I am not convinced he is a great pocket-passer. What about Alipate? Do you guys think he can compete with Weber or take over after next season?
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Gray is talented enough to learn how to be a pro-style QB. In fact, he's already stated he thinks the change from mostly shot gun to mostly under center is good for his development. Gray is quick, so the drop back shouldn't be a problem and he seems to have good vision, but haven't seen enough to be sure. Gray also seems to have is head on straight which makes him teachable. I don't see any reason why he can't become good under center.
 

12th man, good post, maybe you can put on a clinic for conf. champ and big 10,and some of the rest of the idiots on this board who have no real clue about building a FB team.
 

I think we can expect Gray to be used more even if he doesn't get the starting QB nod. One thing I like is that Weber is much better when he's improvising and moving then when he's thinking and waiting. Massive improvement. And thank you 12th. i wasn't trying to appear negative. When Brew says stuff we tend to think he's giving us the whole bottle when he really means take a sip.
 

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