Reusse: If Fleck were a hockey coach producing same ratio of BT wins as he has in football, there would not be fan sites with declarations of Fleck

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MNVCGUY said:
I don't go all in on the Reusse bashing like some but WTF is he even talking about in this article? Not going to pay to read the whole thing but the posted part is really dumb.....like Shooter level dumb.
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It's a good column about Bob Motzko. 2 paragraphs mention Fleck, the other 29 are all about Motzko.

Also, I think it's a shot at the zealots who bow down to Fleck, not PJ himself.
 


Ope3 said:
It's a good column about Bob Motzko. 2 paragraphs mention Fleck, the other 29 are all about Motzko.

Also, I think it's a shot at the zealots who bow down to Fleck, not PJ himself.
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Ope3 said:
It's a good column about Bob Motzko. 2 paragraphs mention Fleck, the other 29 are all about Motzko.

Also, I think it's a shot at the zealots who bow down to Fleck, not PJ himself.
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BTChamp said:
If Minnesota had a paper worth reading, people would be begging for Too Tall Tom Szymanski over this dunce. Apples to oranges? Of course. Have to follow suit so I can troll and get a click.
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Great reference to Too Tall Tom.
 

Minnesota produces more NHL hockey talent than any other state, and it isn't close. And the Gophers have the most entrenched hockey program right in the middle of all this talent. To compare hockey to ANY other sport at the U (especially football) is not only apples and oranges, it is apples and hammers. And the sad thing is, Reusse seems to know that when he says "apples and oranges? Maybe." - MAYBE?

None of that means we don't want the football program to succeed greatly. We do! I will always maintain that the football team could win more and even have some Indiana-style seasons. But it is simply undeniable that the UofM football team has performed better under Fleck than any other MN Gopher coach over the past 60 years. His record, both in and out of the B1G speaks for itself.

I get just as frustrated at the "Poor us, the Gophers will NEVER win the B1G" people and the "this is as good as it can get" people as I do with people like Reusse suggesting the program is somehow coasting and under bad leadership. While I don't expect OSU level competition for top 5 rankings EVERY year, I will always maintain that the elephant of returning to national prominence occasionally can be eaten one bite at a time and is possible. I couldn't be a fan if I didn't actually believe that.

I thought Reusse's steady anti-Gopher hatred drumbeat had slowed in recent years. Oh well, I guess not. It is his thing. It's why I quit reading him long ago. I no longer respect or find value in his opinions.
 


Ope3 said:
Then it seems like a misnomer if one can live "for decades".

Regardless his BMI has squat to do with his writing.
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I'm not surprised the person who is an awe of Pat's writing ability does not know the difference between morbidity and mortality. Morbidity does not mean death, it means an illness. Mortality refers to death. Morbidity describes the deviation from the state of well-being within a population. Many people have morbid health conditions who are alive and will live for a very long time.

As to it not impacting his writing, I disagree. I don't think it impacts the punctuation he uses or his ability to properly apply the rules of grammar, but it does impact what he writes about. Pat is clearly not comfortable in his own skin and, in my opinion, it impacts his writing. A good writer should deliver compelling content that is written well.

He wrote an article about how the standards of the Gopher football team should be as high as the standards of the Gopher hockey team because he's mad at Gopherhole. He has had numerous articles that are clearly an attempt to troll Gopherhole but then he is the one who flames out. He is a columnist version of the cheeto-fingered neck beards who get into fights on the internet. I don't think those people feel real comfortable in their own skin either.

I do not think Pat feels comfortable in his own skin and I don't think it's a huge leap of faith to assume that has something to do with his morbid obesity.
 



Ope3 said:
It's a good column about Bob Motzko. 2 paragraphs mention Fleck, the other 29 are all about Motzko.

Also, I think it's a shot at the zealots who bow down to Fleck, not PJ himself.
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We know the bolded part, he is mad at Gopherhole because we make fun of him.

He is also not mad at Fleck zealots, he is mad at Gopherhole. He is reading this thread. This board might be made up of 5% of people who I would consider blindly support PJ. But that's pretty common. There were folks who defended Ben Johnson for years. There were folks who liked Pitino and Claeys. This isn't unique to PJ or Gopher fandom.

In your opinion, what makes someone a zealot of PJ?
 

“What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
 

GophersInIowa said:
Well he did a good job of distracting people from the real point of the article then.
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In the OP, Bleed only posted the first 5 graphs (of 31) to fish all the Holers in. Job well done one reeling them in.

The title of the column should clue you in on what the "real point" was:

Reusse: Gophers hockey coach Bob Motzko takes the slings and arrows, keeps soldiering on​

Sure, it’s a down season for the team. That’s what happens when you’re between cycles of experienced players.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
We know the bolded part, he is mad at Gopherhole because we make fun of him.

He is also not mad at Fleck zealots, he is mad at Gopherhole. He is reading this thread. This board might be made up of 5% of people who I would consider blindly support PJ.
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I would argue the exact opposite, he loves the content they provide.
 



Ope3 said:
I would argue the exact opposite, he loves the content they provide.
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No, he doesn't.

We have him so twisted in knots he is forced to pretend to not understand why Gopher hockey has different expectations than Gopher football. That is hotter than any take on Gopherhole and he doesn't really even believe it.

He is flaming out.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
I'm not surprised the person who is an awe of Pat's writing ability does not know the difference between morbidity and mortality. Morbidity does not mean death, it means an illness. Mortality refers to death. Morbidity describes the deviation from the state of well-being within a population. Many people have morbid health conditions who are alive and will live for a very long time.

As to it not impacting his writing, I disagree. I don't think it impacts the punctuation he uses or his ability to properly apply the rules of grammar, but it does impact what he writes about. Pat is clearly not comfortable in his own skin and, in my opinion, it impacts his writing. A good writer should deliver compelling content that is written well.

He wrote an article about how the standards of the Gopher football team should be as high as the standards of the Gopher hockey team because he's mad at Gopherhole. He has had numerous articles that are clearly an attempt to troll Gopherhole but then he is the one who flames out. He is a columnist version of the cheeto-fingered neck beards who get into fights on the internet. I don't think those people feel real comfortable in their own skin either.

I do not think Pat feels comfortable in his own skin and I don't think it's a huge leap of faith to assume that has something to do with his morbid obesity.
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Patrick is 100% comfortable in his own skin, pokes fun at himself quite frequently on his podcasts. His podcasts on the Daily Delivery, Garage Logic and SKOR North are for the most part non-morbid, bordering beyond jovial.

Pointing to his Body Mass Index to his writing style is a massive stretch.

The point of this article was that he was mad at Gopher fans that not supporting Bob Motzko.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
No, he doesn't.

We have him so twisted in knots he is forced to pretend to not understand why Gopher hockey has different expectations than Gopher football. That is hotter than any take on Gopherhole and he doesn't really even believe it.

He is flaming out.
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Agree to disagree.
 

This was probably the most poorly written and reasoned column that Pat has ever produced
 

Ope3 said:
In the OP, Bleed only posted the first 5 graphs (of 31) to fish all the Holers in. Job well done one reeling them in.

The title of the column should clue you in on what the "real point" was:

Reusse: Gophers hockey coach Bob Motzko takes the slings and arrows, keeps soldiering on​

Sure, it’s a down season for the team. That’s what happens when you’re between cycles of experienced players.
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The first 5 paragraphs is what you read before the other 26. It's pretty accurate to say those 5 easily distracted people from the rest of the article.
 

The more I think of it, the logic is so bad with this Reusse take that any counter point should also be ridiculous, just to point out how wacky the football = hockey opinion is.

For example, Gopher hockey needs to take a long hard look at itself and maybe consider a coaching change because it is winless in the B1G vs Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Nebraska, Northwestern, Oregon, Purdue, Rutgers, UCLA, USC, and Washington. That is unacceptable!
 

GophersInIowa said:
The first 5 paragraphs is what you read before the other 26. It's pretty accurate to say those 5 easily distracted people from the rest of the article.
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For 5 paragraphs to make a reader forget the Headline that was in extremely large font would indicate to me that person has attention deficit issues.
 


GophersInIowa said:
Well he did a good job of distracting people from the real point of the article then.
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Intentionally

Because trolling is the way he gets clicks




Write a good article no one will read

Or

Write a good article with a little troll at an active fan base to get more people to read it




Someday the local writers will figure out they can get more clicks by trolling the Vikings
 


Some guy said:
Isn’t he just trolling for clicks?
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Perhaps, he is a self admitted troll. I think his positive words on Motzko are genuine.

Some guy said:
Intentionally

Because trolling is the way he gets clicks




Write a good article no one will read

Or

Write a good article with a little troll at an active fan base to get more people to read it




Someday the local writers will figure out they can get more clicks by trolling the Vikings
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I think Patrick has figured out the "trolling the Vikings" part of the equation.

TOY / KOC & JJM

https://www.startribune.com/patrick-reusse-2025-turkey-of-the-year/601531877
 


BTChamp said:
If Minnesota had a paper worth reading, people would be begging for Too Tall Tom Szymanski over this dunce. Apples to oranges? Of course. Have to follow suit so I can troll and get a click.
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A Too Tall Tom reference! I never expected to see this today!
 

spermophilus said:
We’re a “blue blood” of hockey - should win more. As I’ve posted elsewhere, the single toughest, gut-punch, loss I’ve endured as a Gopher alum/fan, was the NC loss to Quinnipiac. Not just the loss - the way it happened, and the absolutely, almost obscenely, talent-laden roster we had. Throw in several other big upsets/losses, and acknowledging the back-to-back wins 25 years ago. We should win much more, frankly, and underachieve more so generally, and hurts me to say/opine.

OTOH . . . Our football team exceeds expectations generally, given the gauntlet we play and the relative disadvantage we have recruiting and resources vis-a-vis those others.

Pat has to know this, right?!?!?
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Like many others, my Gophers hockey gut punch loss was the 1989 championship game, at home in the Civic Center, to Harvard (Harvard!). That was another obscenely talented Minnesota team that lost a title it should’ve won.
 

BleedGopher said:
Per Pat:

The older generations of Gophers men’s hockey followers lead the Twin Cities sports market in one area: entitlement.

Or, put it this way: If P.J. Fleck were a hockey coach producing the same ratio of Big Ten wins as he has in football, there would not be fan sites with declarations that P.J. is the finest coach in their lifetimes.

The restless puck faithful would be, instead, pleading for the return of Don Lucia, or perhaps Brad Buetow, now 75 and last reported living in Colorado Springs.

Apples to oranges, you say?

Maybe, but Bob Motzko could only wish the 24 games his hockey team is playing against Big Ten opponents contained as many struggling rivals as Fleck’s nine-game conference schedule this past fall.


Go Gophers!!
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What exactly is wrong with this miserable fuck?
 

How did I know Ope would have a 100 posts here supporting Reusse?

Death, taxes, GopherHole posting Reusse nonsense, Ope defending Reusse, repeat...
 


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