Reusse: Comparison of Kill's first team with 2010; Kill is a likable fellow, but...


Year one producing similar results to the last year of the prior regime isn't exactly unprecedented. He's already calling Kill a flop if the Gophers don't beat Illinois, and a disaster if they lose. Mason actually won one LESS game his first year than Wacker did his final year. How about a little more time before calling Kill a flop or a disaster?
 

I completely agree. Reusse hates all football north of the Mason-Dixon line. Perhaps there's a nice newspaper in Baton Rouge looking for a sports reporter (fingers crossed!)
 

Year one producing similar results to the last year of the prior regime isn't exactly unprecedented. He's already calling Kill a flop if the Gophers don't beat Illinois, and a disaster if they lose. Mason actually won one LESS game his first year than Wacker did his final year. How about a little more time before calling Kill a flop or a disaster?

What he said was, "If the 2011 Gophers can't get a second Big Ten victory in that circumstance, then Kill's first season will lose its status as a ''flop'' and be downgraded to a "disaster.''"
 

TENURE for Coach Kill to shut the media-dogs up...or...to REALLY give 'em something to talk about...

; 0 )
 


Considering Minnesota was picked to win a total of ZERO Big Ten wins by most publications, I'd say Kill has done pretty well. Plus the win was in a trophy game over Iowa? I'm gonna go ahead and just give him the second win for beating the Hawkeyes.
 

Completely fair article, other than mentions of "success" and "Mason" in the same breath. It amazes me that people think a cumulative 8th place finish in ten years as a head coach qualifies as anything close to "success". The Gophers and Indiana were the only two teams in the conference not to finish in the top 3 at least once during that ten year period. It wasn't "success", it wasn't even average, it was 8th out of 11 teams.
 

There are quite a few errors in the article. How hard is it for him to get his facts straight? We beat Miami in OT? No we didn't. We beat Illinois 38-24 last year? No we didn't. 2010 Iowa mediocre? Maybe underachieving, but far from mediocre. 2011 Iowa? I would hesitate to call them mediocre considering they could win out and finish 9-4.
 

Amazing that he can put almost no effort into his job and survive. What a lazy article, again. I need a career change.
 




ProudMinnesotaHomer said:
I completely agree. Reusse hates all football north of the Mason-Dixon line. Perhaps there's a nice newspaper in Baton Rouge looking for a sports reporter (fingers crossed!)

He would be crying about no offensive TD's vs. Alabama.
 

I disagree, I think we are getting a hint of it. Great effort is definitely being shown out there since the Michigan debacle. I see a team in position to make plays, but just plain don't nearly often enough. It's obvious his schemes require more speed, but working with what he has, there's gonna be some defensive frustrations.

Kill did not have the success I thought he would this year, mainly because those first five weeks were just so bad (well, outside of a half at USC). But after Purdue (and really after the 1st Q of that game), this team definitely improved and showed glimpses of what they COULD do next year if there's just a little bit of infusion of some speed on the edges and improvement in solidifying the D-line. They were gashed a tad too easily.
 

This is such a stupid article and basically plays to the uninformed NFL fans in this market.
RANT/
BTW there are not nearly enough negative headlines on the Vikings this year, they have absolutely underachieved and underperformed for the talent they have./RANT

The reason, fat pat, that there is positivity with Kill is the amount of young players contributing, the prospect of a stable and calm offseason, and the infusion of redshirt players and recruits to help the serious depth issues this team has faced all season. College football is not a quick fix, it cannot lean on 10 year veterans to pick up a playbook quickly, or elevate the team's play with pro bowl talent FA signings, it requires time and patience.

The beginning of this year was frustrating for Gopher fans to watch, we got outcoached, outplayed, out hustled, we didn't match up.
However, if you can't see the adjustments and improvements the team has made, you're not watching the games.

IMO Kill made a conscious decision to play more young guys, pair down the playbook to aid in developing Gray, and play the kids who gave 100% effort on the field instead of just the most talented. In essence he punted the season for the next few years after NDSU, which some may say is a sin and shouldn't have been done, but he did it.

We may not win Saturday, but we'll return 6 starting Olinemen, our QB who could be a gamechanger, all our WR's but one, all our DE's, all our LBers but one. Everyone will heal, get stronger, bigger, and spend the offseason retaining scheme knowledge and building off of it.
We had no idea where we'd be after the finale last year, it's not the same season, not even close.
 



I would have agreed with Reusse in early October. I disagree with him now. It took awhile for the coaching staff and the team to get on the same page, but I'm seeing progress now. There are still fits and starts, but the arrow is pointed in the right direction.
 

Reusse takes it over the top. This season isn't a flop or a disaster, but it's not close to a success. I agree with the statement that we have not even a hint if kill will be a successful big ten coach.


Fat pat is over the top, but his premise that we shouldn't crown him anythin yet is very true IMO.
 

Pat likes to p*ss in the Kool-Aid, but that should remind us that we should never drink the Kool-Aid.

Kill is doing a good enough job right now and, truth be told, I don't think he's been serving Kool-Aid. He's a "what you see is what you get" kind of guy and he's busting his butt. I think the jury needs to continue its deliberations for another season or two.
 

Reusse is Reusse, he just likes ripping folks for effect. He hated Brewster because Brewster was a blow hard, he had no more knowledge than anyone else about whether he could coach. What Reusse thinks is irrelevent. NO one in the sport would take him seriously, and neither should we.
 

Reusse takes it over the top. This season isn't a flop or a disaster, but it's not close to a success. I agree with the statement that we have not even a hint if kill will be a successful big ten coach.


Fat pat is over the top, but his premise that we shouldn't crown him anythin yet is very true IMO.

I see very few people crowning Kill anything. I do see folks that are very knowledgeable and passionate about Gopher football being positive for all sorts of stated reasons: the youth of the team, track record of the coach, the improvement shown in some areas, etc. They're also well aware of the history of this program and the difficulties Kill faces, but, overall, they have hope and mainly are willing to give this guy a chance. It's called being a fan, and they sense Kill has a good chance of being successful; but, for whatever the reasons, this fat, lazy, miserable SOB keeps going out of his way to point out either the obvious or the negative. I don't pay that much attention to him anymore, but it's just amazing how much of Reusse's focus is on Kill when you've got the Vikings going in completely the opposite direction. Throw in how little criticism I see about the Twins, and you've really got to wonder if the fat, lazy, miserable SOB doesn't wake up and think, "Geez, I've got to write something today. Let's see, it's been almost a week since I riled the folks on that GopherHole."
 

We're allowed to use more than one word.

Assuming that Disaster is something Whackeresque, a flop is something disappointingly short of expectations, there is quite a bit of room between those and a National Championship Season or even a B1G championship or perhaps even a top 2 division finish, etc.

Where does this season fall?

I personally see a lot more promise for 2012 than I did for 2011, which was as frustrating as I expected, but had more flashes of hope than I expected too.

I would say this season, in the big picture, has been less than acceptable, but elements have been attained in making progress toward future success.

No crowns of any type have been earned. What has been earned is the opportunity to continue to improve.

Reusse takes it over the top. This season isn't a flop or a disaster, but it's not close to a success. I agree with the statement that we have not even a hint if kill will be a successful big ten coach.


Fat pat is over the top, but his premise that we shouldn't crown him anythin yet is very true IMO.
 

I disagree, I think we are getting a hint of it. Great effort is definitely being shown out there since the Michigan debacle. I see a team in position to make plays, but just plain don't nearly often enough. It's obvious his schemes require more speed, but working with what he has, there's gonna be some defensive frustrations.

Kill did not have the success I thought he would this year, mainly because those first five weeks were just so bad (well, outside of a half at USC). But after Purdue (and really after the 1st Q of that game), this team definitely improved and showed glimpses of what they COULD do next year if there's just a little bit of infusion of some speed on the edges and improvement in solidifying the D-line. They were gashed a tad too easily.

Except for a couple of plays where nobody noticed the missing man. We should save the missing man formation to the flyovers. And, not become the flyover because we have the missing man play down, Pat.
 

I see very few people crowning Kill anything. I do see folks that are very knowledgeable and passionate about Gopher football being positive for all sorts of stated reasons: the youth of the team, track record of the coach, the improvement shown in some areas, etc. They're also well aware of the history of this program and the difficulties Kill faces, but, overall, they have hope and mainly are willing to give this guy a chance. It's called being a fan, and they sense Kill has a good chance of being successful; but, for whatever the reasons, this fat, lazy, miserable SOB keeps going out of his way to point out either the obvious or the negative. I don't pay that much attention to him anymore, but it's just amazing how much of Reusse's focus is on Kill when you've got the Vikings going in completely the opposite direction. Throw in how little criticism I see about the Twins, and you've really got to wonder if the fat, lazy, miserable SOB doesn't wake up and think, "Geez, I've got to write something today. Let's see, it's been almost a week since I riled the folks on that GopherHole."

I too am positive and passionate that we have "youth" on the team.
 




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