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I must say this is a nice change of pace. It has been very lame being a Badger fan in the Cities the last decade. Every time I tried to have a little friendly trash talk my Gopher friends would just shake their heads and say 'you're probably right.' Looks like we might get some actually rivalry activities/talk this year. In that vein, be prepared for disappointment Goofs when this year ends up being no different than any other. :cool:

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This year may or may not be different but I think the future will be different. We're not going to be a pushover year after year.
 

This year is different. Last game means something. Already earned likely the best bowl game in 50 years. Opposing coach is scared and would like to have a policy to make sure his players feelings aren't hurt when they lose.
 

GophersInIowa said:
This year may or may not be different but I think the future will be different. We're not going to be a pushover year after year.
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I think we have already reached that point. I didn't feel very concerned with the Gophers all year until the play by Boddy-Calhoun at the goal line last week. That made me sit up and take notice. It had a bit of a 'team of destiny' feel to it. This game should be a battle but I think the U is still at least a year away, playing at the Camp is going to be to much to overcome. Plus when you break the teams down on paper UW comes out the clear winner, thus the 13 point spread.

On D, UW ranks 2nd nationally giving up 259.3 YPG and 16.1 PPG while UM ranks 34th giving up 354.9 YPG and 22.9 PPG. On O, UW ranks 18th gaining 485.2 YPG and 37.8 PPG while UM ranks 98th gaining 363.3 YPG and 29.8 PPG. Breaking it down further to what each team's strength is; UW has the 5th best rush D giving up 97.1 YPG and the 2nd ranked rush O at 343.5 YPG while UM has the 55th ranked rush D giving up 154.6 YPG and the 23rd ranked rush O at 228.9 YPG. UW has faced the 61st toughest SOS while UM has faced the 56th, so no real difference there. Those are some pretty big gaps for a road team to overcome. It certainly could happen, but it will require the best game the Gophers have played in years.
 

I would feel pretty good if the game were at TCF. In CR, I think we have a puncher's chance but definitely need to play smart and have a few things go our way.
 


My first thought is that winning AT Wisconsin would be too much to expect, but then again, did anyone think we had any chance of winning at Nebraska before the season started? Crazy how expectations can change so much. I think the Gophs will give everything they've got and it will be decided by single digits. Hopefully there is no way a let down will happen in the biggest game in Gopher history in 40 years!!!
 

bigdsrip said:
I think we have already reached that point. I didn't feel very concerned with the Gophers all year until the play by Boddy-Calhoun at the goal line last week. That made me sit up and take notice. It had a bit of a 'team of destiny' feel to it. This game should be a battle but I think the U is still at least a year away, playing at the Camp is going to be to much to overcome. Plus when you break the teams down on paper UW comes out the clear winner, thus the 13 point spread.

On D, UW ranks 2nd nationally giving up 259.3 YPG and 16.1 PPG while UM ranks 34th giving up 354.9 YPG and 22.9 PPG. On O, UW ranks 18th gaining 485.2 YPG and 37.8 PPG while UM ranks 98th gaining 363.3 YPG and 29.8 PPG. Breaking it down further to what each team's strength is; UW has the 5th best rush D giving up 97.1 YPG and the 2nd ranked rush O at 343.5 YPG while UM has the 55th ranked rush D giving up 154.6 YPG and the 23rd ranked rush O at 228.9 YPG. UW has faced the 61st toughest SOS while UM has faced the 56th, so no real difference there. Those are some pretty big gaps for a road team to overcome. It certainly could happen, but it will require the best game the Gophers have played in years.
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Noticed they did hold the 7-4 LSU Tigers to 365 yards. How many yards on the ground did the Badgers give-up to TCU and tOSU?

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Iceland12 said:
Noticed they did hold the 7-4 LSU Tigers to 365 yards. How many yards on the ground did the Badgers give-up to TCU and tOSU?

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I'll tell you in two weeks. :p
 




bigdsrip said:
I think we have already reached that point. I didn't feel very concerned with the Gophers all year until the play by Boddy-Calhoun at the goal line last week. That made me sit up and take notice. It had a bit of a 'team of destiny' feel to it. This game should be a battle but I think the U is still at least a year away, playing at the Camp is going to be to much to overcome. Plus when you break the teams down on paper UW comes out the clear winner, thus the 13 point spread.

On D, UW ranks 2nd nationally giving up 259.3 YPG and 16.1 PPG while UM ranks 34th giving up 354.9 YPG and 22.9 PPG. On O, UW ranks 18th gaining 485.2 YPG and 37.8 PPG while UM ranks 98th gaining 363.3 YPG and 29.8 PPG. Breaking it down further to what each team's strength is; UW has the 5th best rush D giving up 97.1 YPG and the 2nd ranked rush O at 343.5 YPG while UM has the 55th ranked rush D giving up 154.6 YPG and the 23rd ranked rush O at 228.9 YPG. UW has faced the 61st toughest SOS while UM has faced the 56th, so no real difference there. Those are some pretty big gaps for a road team to overcome. It certainly could happen, but it will require the best game the Gophers have played in years.
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fact are meaningless especially when you dig up facts that can point in your direction

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The rest of Phil Steele’s toughest schedule rankings for 2014 are listed below.

11-25

(11) UCLA, (12) Texas A&M, (13) Oklahoma State, (14) Miami, FL, (15) Kentucky, (16) Stanford, (17) USC, (18) Washington State, (19) Rutgers, (20) Ole Miss, (21) Syracuse, (22) Minnesota, (23) Kansas, (24) Colorado, (25) Arizona State

26-50

(26) Indiana, (27) North Carolina, (28) Boston College, (29) Arizona, (30) South Carolina, (31) Missouri, (32) Florida, (33) LSU, (34) Clemson, (35) Georgia, (36) Ohio State, (37) Wake Forest, (38) Illinois, (39) Maryland, (40) TCU, (41) SMU, (42) Georgia Tech, (43) Purdue, (44) Kansas State, (45) Northwestern, (46) Florida State, (47) Oregon State, (48) Oregon, (49) Oklahoma, (50) Michigan State

51-75

(51) Nebraska, (52) Washington, (53) Michigan, (54) Penn State, (55) Texas Tech, (56) Mississippi State, (57) Baylor, (58) Vanderbilt, (59) Wyoming, (60) Virginia Tech, (61) Alabama, (62) Tulane, (63) NC State, (64) Pittsburgh, (65) Boise State, (66) San Jose State, (67) Hawaii, (68) Louisville, (69) Temple, (70) Iowa, (71) USF, (72) Wisconsin, (73) BYU, (74) Florida Atlantic, (75) Nevada


Minn 22 Wisconnie 72 yeah not much of a gap there? no wonder your other stats are inflated!
 

bigdsrip said:
I think we have already reached that point. I didn't feel very concerned with the Gophers all year until the play by Boddy-Calhoun at the goal line last week. That made me sit up and take notice. It had a bit of a 'team of destiny' feel to it. This game should be a battle but I think the U is still at least a year away, playing at the Camp is going to be to much to overcome. Plus when you break the teams down on paper UW comes out the clear winner, thus the 13 point spread.

On D, UW ranks 2nd nationally giving up 259.3 YPG and 16.1 PPG while UM ranks 34th giving up 354.9 YPG and 22.9 PPG. On O, UW ranks 18th gaining 485.2 YPG and 37.8 PPG while UM ranks 98th gaining 363.3 YPG and 29.8 PPG. Breaking it down further to what each team's strength is; UW has the 5th best rush D giving up 97.1 YPG and the 2nd ranked rush O at 343.5 YPG while UM has the 55th ranked rush D giving up 154.6 YPG and the 23rd ranked rush O at 228.9 YPG. UW has faced the 61st toughest SOS while UM has faced the 56th, so no real difference there. Those are some pretty big gaps for a road team to overcome. It certainly could happen, but it will require the best game the Gophers have played in years.
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Gophers have easily played the tougher schedule. Minnesota is the best team Wisconsin has played this year. Wisconsin is a fairly distant 3rd on the Gophers' schedule this year.
 

We should have a tax on Sconnies living in our state.

They each pay an additional $10/day every day they reside on our side of the border.
 

SonOfTheVarsity said:
Gophers have easily played the tougher schedule. Minnesota is the best team Wisconsin has played this year. Wisconsin is a fairly distant 3rd on the Gophers' schedule this year.
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You meant to say "will have played", meaning it will happen in the near future.
 



All I know is that when "Jump" is played at the end of the 3rd quarter, many Becky fans will be jumping off the bandwagon and going home. The tide has turned and Wiscy's one-trick pony will not be able to swim against the tide this week. Winning at the Camp will make the victory even sweeter. Party on State St for the Gophers!
 

bigdsrip said:
On D, UW ranks 2nd nationally giving up 259.3 YPG and 16.1 PPG while UM ranks 34th giving up 354.9 YPG and 22.9 PPG. On O, UW ranks 18th gaining 485.2 YPG and 37.8 PPG while UM ranks 98th gaining 363.3 YPG and 29.8 PPG. Breaking it down further to what each team's strength is; UW has the 5th best rush D giving up 97.1 YPG and the 2nd ranked rush O at 343.5 YPG while UM has the 55th ranked rush D giving up 154.6 YPG and the 23rd ranked rush O at 228.9 YPG. UW has faced the 61st toughest SOS while UM has faced the 56th, so no real difference there. Those are some pretty big gaps for a road team to overcome. It certainly could happen, but it will require the best game the Gophers have played in years.
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no way. Not sure how this is even remotely close when we have played two potential playoff teams in OSU and TCU. Cite your source. Not buying it.
 



DoubleB said:
fact are meaningless especially when you dig up facts that can point in your direction

SOS

The rest of Phil Steele’s toughest schedule rankings for 2014 are listed below.

11-25

(11) UCLA, (12) Texas A&M, (13) Oklahoma State, (14) Miami, FL, (15) Kentucky, (16) Stanford, (17) USC, (18) Washington State, (19) Rutgers, (20) Ole Miss, (21) Syracuse, (22) Minnesota, (23) Kansas, (24) Colorado, (25) Arizona State

26-50

(26) Indiana, (27) North Carolina, (28) Boston College, (29) Arizona, (30) South Carolina, (31) Missouri, (32) Florida, (33) LSU, (34) Clemson, (35) Georgia, (36) Ohio State, (37) Wake Forest, (38) Illinois, (39) Maryland, (40) TCU, (41) SMU, (42) Georgia Tech, (43) Purdue, (44) Kansas State, (45) Northwestern, (46) Florida State, (47) Oregon State, (48) Oregon, (49) Oklahoma, (50) Michigan State

51-75

(51) Nebraska, (52) Washington, (53) Michigan, (54) Penn State, (55) Texas Tech, (56) Mississippi State, (57) Baylor, (58) Vanderbilt, (59) Wyoming, (60) Virginia Tech, (61) Alabama, (62) Tulane, (63) NC State, (64) Pittsburgh, (65) Boise State, (66) San Jose State, (67) Hawaii, (68) Louisville, (69) Temple, (70) Iowa, (71) USF, (72) Wisconsin, (73) BYU, (74) Florida Atlantic, (75) Nevada


Minn 22 Wisconnie 72 yeah not much of a gap there? no wonder your other stats are inflated!
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Those rankings were posted in August before a single game was played. Basically they are utterly worthless but nice try. Sorry Gopher fans the numbers are what they are, no matter how much you don't want to believe it on paper this game should be a blowout. Of course they don't play the games on paper and there is no way to measure emotion or want to but that doesn't change the numbers we can measure.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2014/08/phil-steele-2014-college-football-strength-of-schedule-rankings/
 

bigdsrip said:
Those rankings were posted in August before a single game was played. Basically they are utterly worthless but nice try. Sorry Gopher fans the numbers are what they are, no matter how much you don't want to believe it on paper this game should be a blowout. Of course they don't play the games on paper and there is no way to measure emotion or want to but that doesn't change the numbers we can measure.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2014/08/phil-steele-2014-college-football-strength-of-schedule-rankings/
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Don't understand how you think this will be a blowout. Gophers take this 31-21. Better luck next year.
 

Teams change a lot in CFB over a year. Just look at the Gophers between the 2 byes (jNW, PUR, IL) and after (IA, tOSU, NE). We are not only a good team, but we are playing much better too. I think it is more important to look at recent games than what WI did against LSU. Not the same team now. Both of these squads appear to be on the top if their game. Should be a fun Saturday. The game will be won/lost in the trenches and I think it will be quite close.
 

bigdsrip said:
I must say this is a nice change of pace. It has been very lame being a Badger fan in the Cities the last decade. Every time I tried to have a little friendly trash talk my Gopher friends would just shake their heads and say 'you're probably right.' Looks like we might get some actually rivalry activities/talk this year. In that vein, be prepared for disappointment Goofs when this year ends up being no different than any other. :cool:

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Yes, it is lame being a Badger fan. Well stated. :clap:
 

bigdsrip said:
I think we have already reached that point. I didn't feel very concerned with the Gophers all year until the play by Boddy-Calhoun at the goal line last week. That made me sit up and take notice. It had a bit of a 'team of destiny' feel to it. This game should be a battle but I think the U is still at least a year away, playing at the Camp is going to be to much to overcome. Plus when you break the teams down on paper UW comes out the clear winner, thus the 13 point spread.

On D, UW ranks 2nd nationally giving up 259.3 YPG and 16.1 PPG while UM ranks 34th giving up 354.9 YPG and 22.9 PPG. On O, UW ranks 18th gaining 485.2 YPG and 37.8 PPG while UM ranks 98th gaining 363.3 YPG and 29.8 PPG. Breaking it down further to what each team's strength is; UW has the 5th best rush D giving up 97.1 YPG and the 2nd ranked rush O at 343.5 YPG while UM has the 55th ranked rush D giving up 154.6 YPG and the 23rd ranked rush O at 228.9 YPG. UW has faced the 61st toughest SOS while UM has faced the 56th, so no real difference there. Those are some pretty big gaps for a road team to overcome. It certainly could happen, but it will require the best game the Gophers have played in years.
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Just so glad this game will not be played on paper.
 


Busky said:
Don't understand how you think this will be a blowout. Gophers take this 31-21. Better luck next year.
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It's simple really. First I didn't say I expected a blowout. In fact I said that I expect it to be a tough hard fought game. What I did say was that on paper, looking at stats from both teams, UW should win big. That is because the Badgers gain over 120 more yards while giving up 95 less yards per game with a 15 point differential over the Gophers (score 8 more and give up 7 less). UW also has the best player in the country who is on a mission to right every bad game he had last year on his way to a Heisman invite. Plus the game is at Camp Randall and the Gophers have won 2 games in the last 19 tries against the Badgers.

Your predicted score would equal the worst home loss for UW since Oct. 2009. UW has lost exactly 2 games by 10 points or more since 2009, USC in the bowl game last year after Stave got hurt in the 3rd and in 2010 @MSU.
 

bigdsrip said:
It's simple really. First I didn't say I expected a blowout. In fact I said that I expect it to be a tough hard fought game. What I did say was that on paper, looking at stats from both teams, UW should win big. That is because the Badgers gain over 120 more yards while giving up 95 less yards per game with a 15 point differential over the Gophers (score 8 more and give up 7 less). UW also has the best player in the country who is on a mission to right every bad game he had last year on his way to a Heisman invite. Plus the game is at Camp Randall and the Gophers have won 2 games in the last 19 tries against the Badgers.

Your predicted score would equal the worst home loss for UW since Oct. 2009. UW has lost exactly 2 games by 10 points or more since 2009, USC in the bowl game last year after Stave got hurt in the 3rd and in 2010 @MSU.
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What can I say, just have confidence in my squad! As your fellow pals at Buckyville have in theirs. I think it's going to be a great game.
 

bigdsrip said:
I think we have already reached that point. I didn't feel very concerned with the Gophers all year until the play by Boddy-Calhoun at the goal line last week. That made me sit up and take notice. It had a bit of a 'team of destiny' feel to it. This game should be a battle but I think the U is still at least a year away, playing at the Camp is going to be to much to overcome. Plus when you break the teams down on paper UW comes out the clear winner, thus the 13 point spread.

On D, UW ranks 2nd nationally giving up 259.3 YPG and 16.1 PPG while UM ranks 34th giving up 354.9 YPG and 22.9 PPG. On O, UW ranks 18th gaining 485.2 YPG and 37.8 PPG while UM ranks 98th gaining 363.3 YPG and 29.8 PPG. Breaking it down further to what each team's strength is; UW has the 5th best rush D giving up 97.1 YPG and the 2nd ranked rush O at 343.5 YPG while UM has the 55th ranked rush D giving up 154.6 YPG and the 23rd ranked rush O at 228.9 YPG. UW has faced the 61st toughest SOS while UM has faced the 56th, so no real difference there. Those are some pretty big gaps for a road team to overcome. It certainly could happen, but it will require the best game the Gophers have played in years.
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Yeah, regardless of the outcome of Saturday's game, I don't think it is the "same old Gophers" anymore. I really hope Cobb can go and be close to 100%.

Questions for you:
- How much does your defense lose after this year from graduation? I've been surprised how well they've played considering you guys lost so much last year.
- What's the RB position look like next year? Can Clement be the guy? Any young guys that could bust out next year?
 

Iceland12 said:
Noticed they did hold the 7-4 LSU Tigers to 365 yards. How many yards on the ground did the Badgers give-up to TCU and tOSU?

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In the first half before some key injuries Wisconsin held LSU to under 140 yards of offense, with 80 of that coming on one play. Clearly things went awry in the second half. All of the key players have been back for weeks.
 

GophersInIowa said:
Yeah, regardless of the outcome of Saturday's game, I don't think it is the "same old Gophers" anymore. I really hope Cobb can go and be close to 100%.

Questions for you:
- How much does your defense lose after this year from graduation? I've been surprised how well they've played considering you guys lost so much last year.
- What's the RB position look like next year? Can Clement be the guy? Any young guys that could bust out next year?
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To answer your question, the biggest losses on defense will be NT/DE Warren Herring and the two ILBs (Marcus Trotter and Derek Landisch). They have pretty good depth at linebacker, so it's Herring that is going to be the biggest loss. He went out in the LSU game and was a huge loss.

At running back there is obviously going to be a regression from what Gordon has done this year, but Clement is a really, really good running back. His two-year stat line is 187 carries for 1288 yards (6.9 yards per carry) and 15 touchdowns. They have a couple of true freshman that are redshirting this year (Caleb Kinlaw is a scat-back type and Taiwan Deal is a bigger bruiser) that have promise.

The key to next year, frankly, is improved play at QB and WR. If they can diversify the offense a little bit they could be better offensively even without Gordon.
 

When it comes to graduation for Wisconsin:

Losing Melvin Gordon to the pro's means that Wisconsin will be left with just great running backs like Clement. I mean that seriously! (Gordon and Tevin Coleman both play at another level.)

It will be interesting to see what happens with the offensive line. Wisconsin has had "unreal" bad luck when it comes to career ending injuries to offensive linemen recruited 2012-2013.
 

Radio Badger said:
In the first half before some key injuries Wisconsin held LSU to under 140 yards of offense, with 80 of that coming on one play. Clearly things went awry in the second half. All of the key players have been back for weeks.
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Much like the 2nd Half against Iowa?
 

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