Question for Doogie

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Section2 said:
Except that I never said I wasn't trying to be controversial, reading comprehension.
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Meh, good point. I missed your point. Now, it still seems as though you are interested in equal parts telling Doogie that FBT is better and trying to make Doogie feel stupid or something. I think there are better ways to put your point.
 

streetfighter said:
Total BS. If you were trying to be constructive, you would mention ways in which FBT is better. Instead, you feel the need to tell him -- and look like an idiot in the process -- that it is 100 times better than anything he writes. How is asking a person if he/she feels offended, hurt, upset, etc. that a person who does not get paid does a better job than he/she does NOT controversial? If you are going to be an asshole, just be one.

If you are actually interested in making his writing better or something that you deem better, give him ideas, instead of making statements that show your limited mental capacity. Have a little class.

P.S. Another note, if you were trying to improve his writing, email or PM him with your comments. You know exactly who is he is and where to get a hold of him. Zero reason to put this in a public setting if you were not trying to be controversial.
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You are right, I wasn't trying to be constructive. Constructive criticism was a year ago on Rivals and when he first started posting here. I and others told him exactly what this town needs, and he ignored our advice. I've given Doogie many many ideas. I guess you could see this as an "I told you so" thread. FBT is what Doogie should have gunned for, not in the format, but in the style. MV is no homer yet he manages to present info and opinions that are not infuriating to fans. What really sets me off about Doogie is when he plays dumb and acts like he's only trying to provide a balanced take. He's not honest about his intentions. Even in this thread, he acts like he agrees with me and that my post doesn't bother him. Not honest!
 

Section2 said:
You are right, I wasn't trying to be constructive. Constructive criticism was a year ago on Rivals and when he first started posting here. I and others told him exactly what this town needs, and he ignored our advice. I've given Doogie many many ideas. I guess you could see this as an "I told you so" thread. FBT is what Doogie should have gunned for, not in the format, but in the style. MV is no homer yet he manages to present info and opinions that are not infuriating to fans. What really sets me off about Doogie is when he plays dumb and acts like he's only trying to provide a balanced take. He's not honest about his intentions. Even in this thread, he acts like he agrees with me and that my post doesn't bother him. Not honest!
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Fair enough.

Do you think he (or the TC Gopher coverage in general) has too much of a negative tone or doesn't go in depth enough? I don't think Doogie posts on his blog much (the Strib one) so maybe you are just reflecting on the TC Gopher Football coverage as a whole.
 

GopherGod said:
The coverage is lacking because the interest is not that high for the majority of people in the Twin Cities. If the gophers start winning, the interest will increase and in turn you will see more media coverage because that is what the citizens will be wanting to hear about. Part of their job is to write about what the largest group of people want to hear about and in turn sell newspapers and advertising time. The radio stations and newspapers are not charities and are there to try and make a profit so in turn have to appeal to the masses.
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This is true, of course, but it's not the real issue for most of us. For most of us, the problem isn't the quantity of coverage, it's the quality. The newspaper guys aren't too bad, but the radio guys know next to nothing about the program. They riducule the program, which is their right, but they do so with almost no facts. I know that wasn't Thunderlips' point, which you responded to, but it's the second time you brought this up in this thread.

As for Doogie, I'd say he knows more than most of the media guys in town. I have no problem with what he says/writes, but I do think he could go into more depth than he does.
 

Section2 said:
You are right, I wasn't trying to be constructive. Constructive criticism was a year ago on Rivals and when he first started posting here. I and others told him exactly what this town needs, and he ignored our advice. I've given Doogie many many ideas. I guess you could see this as an "I told you so" thread. FBT is what Doogie should have gunned for, not in the format, but in the style. MV is no homer yet he manages to present info and opinions that are not infuriating to fans. What really sets me off about Doogie is when he plays dumb and acts like he's only trying to provide a balanced take. He's not honest about his intentions. Even in this thread, he acts like he agrees with me and that my post doesn't bother him. Not honest!
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Why would your original post bother me? Maybe if I was Youngblood or Fuller, and on the beat on an everyday basis it would, otherwise no.
I've always said take as many shots as you want at my broadcasting or writing skills ... that's the nature of message boards in general. It's extremely rare for anyone to receive endless praise. People will go out of their way to criticize though. Almost 13-years at multiple places has made me realize that. The only thing that bothers me is when a lack of examples is presented, or the shots get very, very personal.
 


No need to bash Doogie folks. He's not the Gopher beat writer nor does he cover the U full time -- he's got a lot of over sports topics to cover and he's free to talk about the U in his own style. I do what I do on FBT because I'm obsessed with Gopher sports, especially football, and try to give the same hyper-intensive focus/energy about Gopher football that a lot of other college programs receive. I probably wouldn't even have a blog right now if we were better than a "fringe bowl team" because everyone and their brother would be covering the Gophers.

I appreciate the kind words everyone has given FBT in this thread, I really do. I'll keep doing what I do as long as there are readers out there just as obsessed with Gopher football.

Doogie, send me a PM.
 

Section2 said:
GL, it seems you are really going out of your way to defend Doogie. Fair enough. Doogie writes the way he does because of journalistic integrity, not because he is modeling the gopher hating TC media.
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Doogie should be a model. Look at that mug ;):
 

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BigGopherFan said:
Doogie should be a model. Look at that mug ;):
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Oh BGF! What a slam! I can't wait for you to start your comedy blog. Pure genius. I can see why this was posted around 1:30 a.m. You must have been up for hours planning this surgical strike! Why go to funnyordie.com when I can read your insightful and HI-Larious posts.

You made my day!
 



Unregistered User said:
Oh BGF! What a slam! I can't wait for you to start your comedy blog. Pure genius. I can see why this was posted around 1:30 a.m. You must have been up for hours planning this surgical strike! Why go to funnyordie.com when I can read your insightful and HI-Larious posts.

You made my day!
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Its called good-natured ribbing. Relax.
Now that I found out who he is, I've realized I have been reading Doogie online for a long time now and I enjoy his insights (most of the time). Very talented too.
 


GopherLady said:
That's like comparing apples to oranges. MV does a great job doing the FBT blog, and he does it as a fan - and that's why so many of us love it. Doogie is a journalist, and has to look at both sides of the story (which I'm sure is tough for him at times, because I can vouch, he is a huge Gopher fan). It's kind of like when I do an interview with a kid I really like - I am able to personalize it a little, which is something I could never do if I worked for one of the papers or TV stations (unless I was a columnist, that is).

Keep in mind too - it's not like Doogie's job is to write his blog, that' what he squeezes in during his little free time. He is employed full-time at KSTP, and has a VERY busy schedule covering a number of things.
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GL--I just lost a little respect for you with that comment. MV is a realist and he is more than willing to make negative comments about the Gophers football program when appropriate (remember the name of his blog). However, when MV does so it is with a point and it is well supported by logic and knowledge.

I can't say the same thing for Doogie. Doogie is negative with little journalistic integrity (he actually called a student athlete a mental midget) and he is loose with his "facts" (I've corrected Doogie numerous times w/ the two most recent being (1) number of bowl teams defeated (2) ranking of penalties of Big Ten teams). Doogie is either lazy or has an axe to grind (or both) and to any fan that pays attention it is pretty obvious.

I've spent a lot less time on GH since he came over here because of him.
 

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