PP: Six bold predictions for the 2025-26 Timberwolves season (Minnesota wins 53 games, falls in Round 2 to Denver)

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Minnesota wins 53 games, falls in Round 2 to Denver​

Even in a talented West, the combination of Minnesota’s top-eight talent, Edwards and experience make the Wolves a clear-cut top four team in the conference. A strong start figures to pave a smooth path for the regular season.

But a significant jump is required for the Wolves to be true title contenders, something they were not a year ago. That will have to come in the form of improved team offense, more consistent defensive effort and individual development.

The guess here is they make strides in two of those three categories, but it’s not quite enough to keep pace with Oklahoma City and the Nuggets’ revamped roster.


Howl Wolves!!
 

For a team that has NBA Title aspirations, heading into the season with Conley, Dilly and Bones Hyland as our PGs doesn't exactly instill much confidence.

With many teams in the West like GS, HOU, LAC, DEN and DAL strengthening their rosters in the off-season, I fear a serious regression might be coming our way this year. Excited to see how TSJ and Beringer progress, though.
 

For a team that has NBA Title aspirations, heading into the season with Conley, Dilly and Bones Hyland as our PGs doesn't exactly instill much confidence.

With many teams in the West like GS, HOU, LAC, DEN and DAL strengthening their rosters in the off-season, I fear a serious regression might be coming our way this year. Excited to see how TSJ and Beringer progress, though.
they are going to start games again this year with can't score Rudy, can't score Conley, and occasionally score McDaniels.

Once again, sorry, Ant!
 

The Wolves are going to be just fine this year. Basketball, more than any other sport is about cohesion.

OKC added 1 solid player to their roster after getting bounced in the 2nd round a year ago. Then they dominated their way to a NBA championship. They just let their team grow up. The Wolves can do the same.
 

For a team that has NBA Title aspirations, heading into the season with Conley, Dilly and Bones Hyland as our PGs doesn't exactly instill much confidence.
The Athletic ranked starting players by position and the Wolves had all in the Top15, except Mikey who was 25; no other playoff team had a PG in the 20s. Ant was #1 SG IIRC.

What they’re accomplishing with him starting is semi-miraculous. He’d be the perfect backup PG, but unless Dilly surprises and takes a quantum leap forward - they’ll need to find a new one next year.

With many teams in the West like GS, HOU, LAC, DEN and DAL strengthening their rosters in the off-season, I fear a serious regression might be coming our way this year. Excited to see how TSJ and Beringer progress, though.
 


For a team that has NBA Title aspirations, heading into the season with Conley, Dilly and Bones Hyland as our PGs doesn't exactly instill much confidence.

With many teams in the West like GS, HOU, LAC, DEN and DAL strengthening their rosters in the off-season, I fear a serious regression might be coming our way this year. Excited to see how TSJ and Beringer progress, though.
I really have no idea how the season is going to play out. I like the continuity. I think Ant will continue to progress, as will McDaniels offensively. Agree about being excited about TSJ and Berenger. As much as I liked NAW, I don't think they will miss him that much. Rudy will drive me batshit crazy but I've come to accept that and appreciate the one or two things he does well. Finch remains the best coach the wolves have ever had by far, though I hope his rotation expands this year.

Three concerns (from watching an unhealthy amount of preseason ball):

1. Julius and Ant's continued ball dominance. This team just doesn't consistently move the ball the way the best teams do.
2. The PG situation (obvious). The only thing Conley can still do is hit a wide open three. Otherwise he hurts the team. Dilly clearly tries on defense but he gets cooked. Finch won't be able to play him against even an average size PG. Offensively, his quickness is fun but there's no consistency and it doesn't look like he has a plan. Ant and DDV aren't the answer. They are scorers and Ant doesn't really facilitate.
3. Nobody is really talking about injuries. Ant has played 78-80 games each of his first five years. Can we continue to count on that? What does the season look like if he plays 60-65 games?

I could see this team winning 55 games and finishing second in the west. I could also see them winning 43 games and scrambling to get in the play in. As I said, no idea.
 


The Athletic ranked starting players by position and the Wolves had all in the Top15, except Mikey who was 25; no other playoff team had a PG in the 20s. Ant was #1 SG IIRC.

What they’re accomplishing with him starting is semi-miraculous. He’d be the perfect backup PG, but unless Dilly surprises and takes a quantum leap forward - they’ll need to find a new one next year.
Even with SGA, OKC will never give up Cason Wallace, especially to a WC rival, but he's exactly who we need.

As it stands, I think finishing in the Top 6 might be a real struggle:

1. OKC added :
* Topic (2024 FRP) back from injury
* Everyone else returns

2. DEN added:
* Cam Johnson
* Jonas Valancuinas
* Tim Hardway Jr
* Bruce Bowen

3. LAC Added:
* Bradley Beal
* Brook Lopez
* John Collins
* Chris Paul

4. GSW added:
* Al Horford
* Gary Payton Jr
* Butler fully healthy

5. HOU added:
* Kevin Durant
* Clint Capela
* FVV season injury a huge loss

6. DAL added:
* Cooper Flagg
* Healthy Kyrie Irving
* Healthy Anthony Davis

7. MIN added
* 3rd string PG

8. LAL added:
* DeAndre Ayton
* Marcus Smart
* Full year with Doncic
 
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Even with SGA, OKC will never give up Cason Wallace, especially to a WC rival, but he's exactly who we need.

As it stands, I think finishing in the Top 6 might be a real struggle:

1. OKC added :
* Topic (2024 FRP) back from injury
* Everyone else returns

2. DEN added:
* Cam Johnson
* Jonas Valancuinas
* Tim Hardway Jr
* Bruce Bowen

3. LAC Added:
* Bradley Beal
* Brook Lopez
* John Collins
* Chris Paul

4. GSW added:
* Al Horford
* Gary Payton Jr
* Butler fully healthy

5. HOU added:
* Kevin Durant
* Clint Capela
* FVV season injury a huge loss

6. DAL added:
* Cooper Flagg
* Healthy Kyrie Irving
* Healthy Anthony Davis

7. MIN added
* 3rd string PG

8. LAL added:
* DeAndre Ayton
* Marcus Smart
* Full year with Doncic

You're banking on a lot of old and often injured guys to stay healthy and play well to have the Wolves in a play in game after back to back western conference finals trips.

I think the Wolves are easily a top 4 team in the West. Possibly top 2.
 



You're banking on a lot of old and often injured guys to stay healthy and play well to have the Wolves in a play in game after back to back western conference finals trips.
What I'm "banking" on is the fact that we have no starting caliber PG on the roster and other top contenders made serious upgrades to their teams.

Continuing to play Ant at PG hurts the team and makes him less efficient on both sides of the court. He is NOT a distributor nor does he run an offense. And he shouldn't...because he's a SG.

I think the Wolves are easily a top 4 team in the West. Possibly top 2.
Well what what do ya know...it's as if opinions can vary. Who knew?
 

What I'm "banking" on is the fact that we have no starting caliber PG on the roster and other top contenders made serious upgrades to their teams.

Continuing to play Ant at PG hurts the team and makes him less efficient on both sides of the court. He is NOT a distributor nor does he run an offense. And he shouldn't...because he's a SG.


Well what what do ya know...it's as if opinions can vary. Who knew?

I disagree that we have no starting caliber PG, we do, and that't didn't prevent us from making the WCF the last two seasons. Plus we have many options to play that role.

I completely disagree that other top contenders made serious upgrades. You're ignoring what they lost, and the age/injury issues with most of those players and teams you listed.

It took the Wolves awhile to gel, but once they started to mid season, they were one of the best teams in the league. They were 22-4 over the second half of the season with a healthy Randle, and 30-6 if you throw in the first two playoff series.

The Wolves return 7 of their top 8 scorers, and have several young, talented players ready to play more. It's not that different than how OKC entered the season last season.
 

What I'm "banking" on is the fact that we have no starting caliber PG on the roster
Agreed and the European Model does also.
and other top contenders made serious upgrades to their teams.
You’re doubting Bones’ upcoming contribution; he could be as an important and adept towel waiver as Joe Ingels.

Continuing to play Ant at PG hurts the team and makes him less efficient on both sides of the court. He is NOT a distributor nor does he run an offense. And he shouldn't...because he's a SG.


Well what what do ya know...it's as if opinions can vary. Who knew?
 

Even with SGA, OKC will never give up Cason Wallace, especially to a WC rival, but he's exactly who we need.

As it stands, I think finishing in the Top 6 might be a real struggle:

1. OKC added :
* Topic (2024 FRP) back from injury
* Everyone else returns

2. DEN added:
* Cam Johnson
* Jonas Valancuinas
* Tim Hardway Jr
* Bruce Bowen

3. LAC Added:
* Bradley Beal
* Brook Lopez
* John Collins
* Chris Paul

4. GSW added:
* Al Horford
* Gary Payton Jr
* Butler fully healthy

5. HOU added:
* Kevin Durant
* Clint Capela
* FVV season injury a huge loss

6. DAL added:
* Cooper Flagg
* Healthy Kyrie Irving
* Healthy Anthony Davis

7. MIN added
* 3rd string PG

8. LAL added:
* DeAndre Ayton
* Marcus Smart
* Full year with Doncic
just because you brought up additions and injuries
OKC is the undoubted favorite and I think personally this is why the Wolves didn't try sell big and would rather try see if they can add at the deadline if OKC looks vulnerable.

Denver added a bunch of older role players. They also have no point guard and Jamal Murray hasn't played a full season for about 5 years. They're still in much the same spot as last year, though in theory should have better outside shooting. They certainly should be good provided that guy names Jokic is playing for them, but I don't know how much better the team outside of him is as the rotation tightens.

The Clippers added Beal (bordered on unplayable at times for the Suns as he's a terrible defender and hasn't played a full year in 5 years at least), 40yo Chris Paul, has Kawii who is never healthy, and still has James Harden who never plays defense. So an old team that's made of glass mixed with guys who don't play defense but man this team sounds super awesome on paper circa 2017.

GSW repeat above. Their entire year hinges on players who are 37, 36, and 35 and have all missed consistent games as well as significantly lost a step (looking at you Draymond, who Randle made look absolutely foolish for an entire series).

For Dallas, Kyrie isn't expected back until into 2026 at earliest. Flagg is a rookie. Anthony Davis is made of glass. They sound fun with some big stars, but the roster is filled with a bunch of iso players and who knows when Kyrie actually comes back.

Houston also doesn't have a PG with VanVleet tearing an ACL. They will play hard and scrap, but who are the scorers now and in the playoffs? KD is one of my favorite players, but they don't space the floor well now around him and are relying on him or Sengun to try create the offense. VanVleet healthy and it feels different. they don't really have a way to address that deficit.

The Lakers I'll be curious to see if Luka's changing his body helps him stay healthy and if Lebron can function the way that makes the Lakers elite or if he's out of gas like he was last year. He's 40 and father time is undefeated

The wolves are young and have guys who have been relatively healthy. I don't think they come close to touching OKC yet again, but to act like everyone else just added impeccably isn't true. Think the Wolves finish between 2nd-6th depending on if Ant takes the next step of keeping this team locked in or not (the wolves finished 3 games out of 2nd with losses to Utah, Washington, NO, Portland x2. I do think losing NAW is going to hurt us more than people are thinking as you're losing a very good defending hybrid guard/forward with a little bit of handle and replacing him with 2 guys who played minimal minutes and Juzang (who probably is a plus shooting wise at least). I just hope they decide they need to figure out what they have in Dilly and TJ early in the year because there's no reason Mike needs to be playing meaningful minutes early in the season (you already know what he offers) and you need to figure out if you want to buy at the deadline or try move some some guys (Donte for example) for draft capital for next year. This team is barely under the 2nd apron so there's not any help coming
 



I disagree that we have no starting caliber PG, we do, and that't didn't prevent us from making the WCF the last two seasons. Plus we have many options to play that role.

I completely disagree that other top contenders made serious upgrades. You're ignoring what they lost, and the age/injury issues with most of those players and teams you listed.

It took the Wolves awhile to gel, but once they started to mid season, they were one of the best teams in the league. They were 22-4 over the second half of the season with a healthy Randle, and 30-6 if you throw in the first two playoff series.

The Wolves return 7 of their top 8 scorers, and have several young, talented players ready to play more. It's not that different than how OKC entered the season last season.
Willard,

Weathermen are never wrong, right????????
 

just because you brought up additions and injuries
OKC is the undoubted favorite and I think personally this is why the Wolves didn't try sell big and would rather try see if they can add at the deadline if OKC looks vulnerable.

Denver added a bunch of older role players. They also have no point guard and Jamal Murray hasn't played a full season for about 5 years. They're still in much the same spot as last year, though in theory should have better outside shooting. They certainly should be good provided that guy names Jokic is playing for them, but I don't know how much better the team outside of him is as the rotation tightens.

The Clippers added Beal (bordered on unplayable at times for the Suns as he's a terrible defender and hasn't played a full year in 5 years at least), 40yo Chris Paul, has Kawii who is never healthy, and still has James Harden who never plays defense. So an old team that's made of glass mixed with guys who don't play defense but man this team sounds super awesome on paper circa 2017.

GSW repeat above. Their entire year hinges on players who are 37, 36, and 35 and have all missed consistent games as well as significantly lost a step (looking at you Draymond, who Randle made look absolutely foolish for an entire series).

For Dallas, Kyrie isn't expected back until into 2026 at earliest. Flagg is a rookie. Anthony Davis is made of glass. They sound fun with some big stars, but the roster is filled with a bunch of iso players and who knows when Kyrie actually comes back.

Houston also doesn't have a PG with VanVleet tearing an ACL. They will play hard and scrap, but who are the scorers now and in the playoffs? KD is one of my favorite players, but they don't space the floor well now around him and are relying on him or Sengun to try create the offense. VanVleet healthy and it feels different. they don't really have a way to address that deficit.

The Lakers I'll be curious to see if Luka's changing his body helps him stay healthy and if Lebron can function the way that makes the Lakers elite or if he's out of gas like he was last year. He's 40 and father time is undefeated

The wolves are young and have guys who have been relatively healthy. I don't think they come close to touching OKC yet again, but to act like everyone else just added impeccably isn't true. Think the Wolves finish between 2nd-6th depending on if Ant takes the next step of keeping this team locked in or not (the wolves finished 3 games out of 2nd with losses to Utah, Washington, NO, Portland x2. I do think losing NAW is going to hurt us more than people are thinking as you're losing a very good defending hybrid guard/forward with a little bit of handle and replacing him with 2 guys who played minimal minutes and Juzang (who probably is a plus shooting wise at least). I just hope they decide they need to figure out what they have in Dilly and TJ early in the year because there's no reason Mike needs to be playing meaningful minutes early in the season (you already know what he offers) and you need to figure out if you want to buy at the deadline or try move some some guys (Donte for example) for draft capital for next year. This team is barely under the 2nd apron so there's not any help coming

Good team analysis and why I think the Wolves should be a top 2-3 team in the west. OKC could also have injury issues with Jalen Williams starting the season injured and Chet has been injury prone. I don't think they are a lock to repeat or even finish 1 in the west.

I'm not very concerned about replacing NAW with TSJ/Clark. I will be surprised if Juzang plays at all. Conley will still play. It should be between Clark/Dillingham/Beringer to be the 9th-10th player depending on the matchup.
 

Good team analysis and why I think the Wolves should be a top 2-3 team in the west. OKC could also have injury issues with Jalen Williams starting the season injured and Chet has been injury prone. I don't think they are a lock to repeat or even finish 1 in the west.

I'm not very concerned about replacing NAW with TSJ/Clark. I will be surprised if Juzang plays at all. Conley will still play. It should be between Clark/Dillingham/Beringer to be the 9th-10th player depending on the matchup.
I’m just not confident in those guards shooting and adding secondary scoring. Juzang is younger than TJ and was lost on a shit Utah team. I’m optimistic about his ability to contribute spot shooting/scoring. Not a big role, but you need depth shooters in spades if you can get it
 

I’m just not confident in those guards shooting and adding secondary scoring. Juzang is younger than TJ and was lost on a shit Utah team. I’m optimistic about his ability to contribute spot shooting/scoring. Not a big role, but you need depth shooters in spades if you can get it

TSJ has always been a scorer. He's good on D too. In limited action, TSJ shot 36% from 3 last season. Clark 43%.

If Juzang couldn't make it for 3 years on one of the worst teams in the NBA, he's not going to be counted on for depth on one of the deepest teams in the NBA. He has a 2-way contract for a reason.
 

TSJ has always been a scorer. He's good on D too. In limited action, TSJ shot 36% from 3 last season. Clark 43%.

If Juzang couldn't make it for 3 years on one of the worst teams in the NBA, he's not going to be counted on for depth on one of the deepest teams in the NBA. He has a 2-way contract for a reason.
To be super clear, more meant the cumulative group of guards. I’m most optimistic with TJ and have been waiting for him to get his chance. Maybe he just fills the bulk himself. Hopefully Dilly and Clark can contribute as well. They need floor spacing and D. Maybe I’m too optimistic about Juzang but liked him out of college and hard to blame many guys for dying in the abyss that is Utah and hard to stay up when you’re losing that much and playing for no purpose
 

I watched a lot of the Houston/OKC game last night. If the refs are going to let OKC play grabby defense and let SGA push off with impunity, the Thunder might win 70 games this year. It's more wrestling than hoops. Houston looks lost without a pg. No ball movement at all. There's a definite opening for the second spot in the west.
 

I watched a lot of the Houston/OKC game last night. If the refs are going to let OKC play grabby defense and let SGA push off with impunity, the Thunder might win 70 games this year. It's more wrestling than hoops. Houston looks lost without a pg. No ball movement at all. There's a definite opening for the second spot in the west.
The refs did try to help Houston out by looking the other way as Durant pulled a Chris Weber at the end. NBA refs are the worst by a mile.
 

The refs did try to help Houston out by looking the other way as Durant pulled a Chris Weber at the end. NBA refs are the worst by a mile.
Every fan in the arena could see him make the TO signal. There were only three (3) people in the building that didn't.

It's really hard to explain what's happening with NBA officiating. The inability (or unwillingness) of the Referees to call the game the same for every player on the court regardless of their league status decreases my interest in the game.

Say what you will about the delays involving reviews but the NFL has really improved the quality of their sport, especially with the new "immediate" review system.
 




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