Poll voting: Time to Man-Up on why you think Brewster will be back next year

[Rescooter]

In the Timeline for Brewster being fired, 16 of you clowns answered: "Fired? He's coming back next season!"

Perhaps we have a bunch of Wisconsin and Iowa fans hoping he'll be back next year who voted, but I think we have some Gopher Fans as well. Time to Man-Up - why do you think he'll be back next year?

 

[thestl]

The first federal prison exclusively for women in the United States was opened in 1926 in West Virginia.

 

[Rescooter]

The first federal prison exclusively for women in the United States was opened in 1926 in West Virginia.

The randomness of your post exceeds my imagination. You have set a new standard!

 

[station19]

The first federal prison exclusively for women in the United States was opened in 1926 in West Virginia.

Please tell me you are a penal institution hisorian, otherwise I have to wonder.

 

[dpodoll68]

It's important to note the distinction made in the poll. The question was, "When will Brewster be fired?", not "When should Brewster be fired?" I personally would answer those two questions very differently, and I don't think that makes me a "clown". If asked the latter, I would say immediately after the Iowa game, right in the locker room. If asked the former, I would not be shocked if Brewster were still here next year, especially given the state of the University's relationship with its own football team, as well as the lame duck status of the AD and president. Disappointed? Yes, but certainly not surprised.

 

[MBAGuy]

Hey, Fartbreath,

I think there's a good chance he'll be back next year for the reasons dpodoll provided, which is why I voted that way. It has nothing to do with what I think ought to happen.

Sweet callout thread, though.

Regards,

Clown

 

[jovs]

Reasons For Retaining Brewster another year

1) Give him four full recruiting classes.
2) Timing, allow the next administration to prioritise football and select the next coach.

Main reason that it may not happen and he will be fired this year

1) Loss of fan support

 

[RodentRampage]

I don't hate Brewster, but I think he should be fired, and I think he will be fired. But I can imagine why he might not be fired, because the President and AD are lame ducks. If you don't want Maturi to pick the next AD, that means Brewster being back for one more year. But I think that would lead to an entire lame duck season in 2011. A mediocre 2011 would not restore faith in the team, it would have to be a really good year, and I don't see that happening.

 

[Gold Vision]

It's important to note the distinction made in the poll. The question was, "When will Brewster be fired?", not "When should Brewster be fired?" I personally would answer those two questions very differently, and I don't think that makes me a "clown". If asked the latter, I would say immediately after the Iowa game, right in the locker room. If asked the former, I would not be shocked if Brewster were still here next year, especially given the state of the University's relationship with its own football team, as well as the lame duck status of the AD and president. Disappointed? Yes, but certainly not surprised.

This is why I said he'll be back in the poll. He doesn't deserve another year, but the administration is in complete flux right now above Brewster. New President, possibly new AD, then Head Coach. All three of those things aren't happening before next year. The entire program is a lame duck.

 

[Rescooter]

Hey, Fartbreath,

I think there's a good chance he'll be back next year for the reasons dpodoll provided, which is why I voted that way. It has nothing to do with what I think ought to happen.

Sweet callout thread, though.

Regards,

Clown

That was funny! I've never been called Fartbreath before. The experience was good.

Personally, I voted for 2-days after the Iowa game. I think (just by some subtle things I've seen) that the process is in motion. re. recruiting offers & visits

It's just a hunch, but this clown says the position will be vacant less than 2-weeks.

 

[RodentRampage]

Even lame ducks have to make decisions. This may be a lame duck administration, but that doesn't mean things can be put off for a year. This could EASILY drag into 2012. We won't have a new President until this summer. Then that President is going to have to pick a new AD, and who knows how long that will take? That would easily go well into the football season, and we could have the new AD taking over and barely be settled before a decision had to be made. I don't want an AD to have to make a decision on the next coach when his boxes aren't even unpacked yet. That could push the decision until AFTER the 2011 season, meaning that Brewster could be here through 2012.

 

[Wheaton]

This is why I said he'll be back in the poll. He doesn't deserve another year, but the administration is in complete flux right now above Brewster. New President, possibly new AD, then Head Coach. All three of those things aren't happening before next year. The entire program is a lame duck.

But at the same time I don't think that will be a good enough excuse to keep Brew on for another year. The guy has failed to do his job, when that happens in the professional world most people lose their jobs, even in times of transition.

While I was at NDSU and President Chapman resigned, there were dozens of people who were let go because of different scandals. Basically, the State Board of Higher Education stepped in started making decisions, at least in the early going.

Besides fans, it does not appear that anyone is pissed at Maturi, which leads me to believe he will still be around next year and he will be given the reigns to name the next head coach once again. Hopefully he can learn from this mistake.

 

[wait!what?]

The pouting at Madison might be the end.
take yer beating.
My dad was a mean SOB and this was Lesson 2.
Lesson 1 was never take a swing at dad. Oldest brother did it and dad flattened him into the fridge.

 

[MBAGuy]

That could push the decision until AFTER the 2011 season, meaning that Brewster could be here through 2012.

Looks like I picked the wrong year to stop sniffing glue.

 

[mnsports1]

has anyone ever really seen a lame duck?

 

[dpodoll68]

has anyone ever really seen a lame duck?

No, but I have read about a one-legged goose.

 

[RodentRampage]

Looks like I picked the wrong year to stop sniffing glue.

I assume you had a point somewhere. I take it you disagreed with my post, and I'm curious just what it was that you disagreed with. If someone doesn't want Maturi to hire the next coach, that means that the next AD will hire the next coach. Do you disagree with that? And it might take a while for the next AD to be in place. Do you disagree with that?

 

[Ogee Ogilthorpe]

Hey, Fartbreath,

I think there's a good chance he'll be back next year for the reasons dpodoll provided, which is why I voted that way. It has nothing to do with what I think ought to happen.

Sweet callout thread, though.

Regards,

Clown

I believe this post sufficiently sums up my sentiments. Nicely done!

I suspect that a huge number of the people calling for the firing have never actually dealt with firing somebody in the real world. There are a TON of things that go into it. Granted, it sounds like it's easier to fire a head coach than it is employees in most professions but there is still more to it than I'm sure most of us think.

Simply put; If I could fire some of my employees simply for incompetence or poor performance, I would have fired probably 6-8 times as many people by now as I actually have.

 

[Gold Vision]

I assume you had a point somewhere. I take it you disagreed with my post, and I'm curious just what it was that you disagreed with. If someone doesn't want Maturi to hire the next coach, that means that the next AD will hire the next coach. Do you disagree with that? And it might take a while for the next AD to be in place. Do you disagree with that?

I'm guessing you haven't seen Airplane.

 

[MBAGuy]

I assume you had a point somewhere. I take it you disagreed with my post, and I'm curious just what it was that you disagreed with. If someone doesn't want Maturi to hire the next coach, that means that the next AD will hire the next coach. Do you disagree with that? And it might take a while for the next AD to be in place. Do you disagree with that?

No, man, I was agreeing with you. My shtick here is to talk about all the toxins I'm addicted to that help me cope with my Gopher fandom (bourbon, Xanax, etc.). The prospect of Bree here for another two years make me wish I was still huffing glue.

 

[Great Plains Gopher]

He'll know ahead of time - go public after the Iowa game, probably that Monday. It won't happen if Bruininks doesn't want it on his watch or if Maturi can't find anyone, which is more or less what happened last time.

 

[RodentRampage]

No, man, I was agreeing with you. My shtick here is to talk about all the toxins I'm addicted to that help me cope with my Gopher fandom (bourbon, Xanax, etc.). The prospect of Bree here for another two years make me wish I was still huffing glue.

I misinterpreted your post, and thought you were essentially saying "dude, what are you smoking?" We might not even have a new AD this time next year.

 

[RodentRampage]

He'll know ahead of time - go public after the Iowa game, probably that Monday. It won't happen if Bruininks doesn't want it on his watch or if Maturi can't find anyone, which is more or less what happened last time.

I agree, he'll know ahead of time. He won't be fired in the locker room, but the formal announcement could be made that night or the next day. I would guess his office would be getting pretty empty that last week.

 

[zman]

MBAGuy, is this you?

 

[Bayfieldgopher]

Why will Brewster be back next year? That's easy.

Because he has a contract.

 

[MBAGuy]

MBAGuy, is this you?

Yeah, I'd been on a weeklong Robotussin bender when I decided to break into Micahel's crafts and pull a Tony Montana with all of their gold glitter.

Haven't touched the 'Tuss since.

 

[Gold Vision]

MBAGuy, is this you?

 

[denguegopher]

Why will Brewster be back next year? That's easy.

Because he has a contract.

In so many words, this is what I was thinking, combined with Ogee's about how it can be difficult & expensive to fire people (I know Brewster's buyout is relatively small).

 

[Rescooter]

In so many words, this is what I was thinking, combined with Ogee's about how it can be difficult & expensive to fire people (I know Brewster's buyout is relatively small).

Sometimes it costs more to keep someone around. I don't know what the buyout is ($400,000?), but that is about 1500 season tickets at TCF. On top of that, no bowl appearance, lost sales of Gopher garb, and fewer booster donations and the cost to hold on to Mr. Brewster is quite high.

I have hired and fired many employees. The one thing with firing someone is I was always able to get someone better and it always increase morale. Sure it's expensive to hire, but it's more expensive to keep an underperformer on the dole.

 

[Silvio]

I voted for Brewster to be back next season and I'll tell you why.

1. I believe that he has done some things the proper way off the field and in terms of program building. I think the talent that is currently redshirt sophomores and below will be very good players.

2. I believe player development has been good under his tenure. I believe that many players who were marginal recruits improved enough to get realistic looks during NFL camps, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Eric Decker was a Mason recruit we all know, but would he have been the same player under Mason? Who knows, but a more pass orientated offense helped him become a high NHL draft pick. There were certainly higher regarded recruits at WR that didn't pan out for both Mase and Brew.

3. I do not not enough about football to have a strong grasp of coaching X's and O's, but knew from the start that TB would be a work in progress in this area. So far he has been more than a work in progress and completely unacceptable. This is the major reason for firing TB, everyone can agree.

4. STABILITY! While TB has had very little with coordinators, the rest of his staff has remained fairly intact. After a dip in the his first year, Brew was able to get us back to what I consider same level as Mason had the program. Mase, in my opinion had the Gophers as the 6-8 best program in the big ten. He would swing up to a tie for 4 when the schedule was favorable then drop to 9-10 when the schedule was tough. I would prefer the new President and AD make the hire of the next football coach. I believe that would ensure the next hire gets 4-5 years from his first full recruiting cycle to show what he can do, I don't believe that would be the case if Maturi would make a hire. The new AD would most likely be quick to bail on the new coach in favor of getting his guy in as coach. I also feel it would force the new coach to think in a very short term rather than the best interest of the program(i.e. heavy JUCO and not properly red shirting). We are seeing the problem with Brew being heavy on the JUCO in defensive spots his first couple of years this year.

5. I consider this to be Brew's 3rd year as it is the 3rd season after his first recruiting class.

That said I understand if he is fired after this year. I believe it is in the best interest of the program to wait for the new President and AD to make the hire.

My apologies for the length.