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Exciting game last night. I was really encouraged. I thought we'd struggle against Wofford, but we looked good most of the game. Here are some thoughts about the individual players last night.

- Mbakwe was my player of the game. He was rebounding like a mad man, scoring inside, playing aggressive hard-nosed defense, even hit a jumper. Frankly, he looked better than I thought he would. I know we were playing a short team, but I really liked what I saw from him. I'm still concerned about his ability to finish in the lane against taller teams, but it was a great first game for him, especially in the limited minutes he got. I really wish he would have played more than Colt, who couldn't finish.

- Colt couldn't finish. He still rebounded pretty well, and shut down Dahlman when he was on him. I think Colton will be essential to our success this year. I liked the moves he was making and the shots he was taking, he just wasn't knocking them down. I do wish he'd have made more direct moves to the basket though. Leave the jump hooks to Sampson, by and large, Colt.

- Sampson was making a lot of shots. As other people have noted, he's much better in rhythm than when he has to think about shots. Actually, I liked what I saw of Sampson on D too. He was blocking shots and playing good D, although he got lost a couple of times, and let the Wofford PF get free for some layups. On the whole, though, he was great. Made his outside jumpers, made a few shots inside, had a nice cut for a dunk. I think some of his success was due to Nolen's new ability to feed the post.

- Al Nolen looked like what we need him to be with Devoe out. He looks like Al at the beginning of two years ago. He got to the rack, he was making good passes in the lane, he knocked down a shot or two, but didn't look for his shot too much, and was actually able to finish in the lane. In addition, he played his usual aggressive nasty D, and moved the ball around well, including getting the ball into the post fairly well (or better than he has at times in the past). Nolen will be essential, despite the reasonably strong performance from Maverick.

- I owe Maverick a bit of an apology. He looked a lot better than I thought he would. He was cool and collected (except for his one terrible turnover), he moved the ball, and his D was okay as well. I'm not that confident that he can do more than what he did, but on the plus side, we don't need him to do more than what he did, which is come in, distribute a bit, don't turn the ball over, and give Al a breather. I think the emergence of Chip will allow Maverick to play limited minutes as well.

-Chip was a revelation. I've liked what I've seen from him every time I saw him play, but he's surprised me last night. He was aggressive, but in control. He got in the lane and finished, and he hit an outside jumper. I don't think we can rely on him from the outside, but given the dearth of people on the team he can get by people into the lane and finish, Chip is very important. Plus, he played tough D. I really liked what I saw from Chip, and I think he and Hollins will trade off in contributions from the frosh.

-Hollins didn't do much, but he looked okay. He plays very good D. I could see him being a DJ type of player by the end of his career. Plus, he's got a nose for the basket, and I really hope he can develop into a mid-range jump shooter. We don't have many of those, and if he can dependably hit those type of shots, we'll be great. I'm hoping that Rodney's break-out will continue, so anything we get from Hollins will be gravy.

- Rodney would be my third star, were this to be hockey. He wasn't making his shots, but he was looking for them, and that's encouraging. He was getting in the lane, going to the basket, and elevating over smaller defenders. Plus his D on Rundles and others was impressive. If Rodney continues to look for his shot, he'll have a chance to become the player we all hope he can be, and draft websites have predicted he'll be. It was important that Rodney play that well, considering that Blake was being covered all night.

-Blake was covered all night last night, and it's clear by this point in his career that, although he can help you if he's covered, by moving the ball well, and making nice cuts, he's never going to be able to shake the D and create his own shot. Other people picked him up, though, he played good D, and as I said, he was still valuable in other ways. I wish he could have figured out a way in his career to create his own shot, but he hasn't really shown it. I guess I should just be happy with what he is, which is the best shooter in the Big Ten, and one of the smartest players in the nation. Plus, he didn't have to hit outside shots last night, because big Mo was taking them for him.

- Mo looked pretty much like I thought he would. He was huge, he rebounded a little bit, and he was able to get his shot, inside and out. Unfortunately, he missed them. That's okay, I think he'll be valuable for us at some time this year.


- I was really happy to see Devoe there. He hugged Tubby's wife, he had some words with Tubby, he participated in everything, he looked involved, he looked happy. I really hope he'll take his five games or whatever, and be back. We could really use him.

- All in all, I'm happy with how the first game went. A nice win over Sienna, and we should have some nice momentum into the most difficult stretch of the pre-season.
 

Very good summary. Tubby also didn't do the mass substituting last night. He played a lot of different combinations, but he sent guys in by twos a lot more than last year.

There also was no run fueled by their turnovers that I kept waiting for. Good, methodical win against a well-coached team.
 

I liked the fact that our half court offense was not predicated on one player dribbling for 30 seconds. Better ball movement.
 

Good job, jmag21. I didn't get to watch the game, and I appreciate the detailed report.
 

Interesting comment about Hollins. He "didn't do much". He is very smooth and everyone sees his potential but, he doesn't do much. Glad to hear Devoe is manning up to his situation. I can't wait for his return.
 


Colton didn't finish as you noted, but his court awareness and strength have come a long ways. The light turned on late last year and it looks like the game slowed down for him. He was a big presence last night in the paint.

I still think Hollins is the player of the frosh class. You can tell he gets it. He's long and appears to have great vision. I think he's going to surprise people with his passing ability and doing the little things. He needs to develop physically. He should shadow Rodney Williams, because whoever worked with training him deserves a raise.

Mo Walker needs to lose 40-60 more pounds. He's got a gut and is at least a step slow. It looks like he has softest hands of our post players. He could be a good player, but it might not be until late next year or his junior year. Don't know if he's physical like Colton and Trevor, or finesse like Sampson.

Devoe Joseph. Watched him closely last night. Lots of positive energy and interaction with his teammates. Saw Coach Smith shake his hand just before tip-off.
 

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Colton didn't finish as you noted, but his court awareness and strength have come a long ways. The light turned on late last year and it looks like the game slowed down for him. He was a big presence last night in the paint.

I still think Hollins is the player of the frosh class. You can tell he gets it. He's long and appears to have great vision. I think he's going to surprise people with his passing ability and doing the little things. He needs to develop physically. He should shadow Rodney Williams, because whoever worked with training him deserves a raise.

Mo Walker needs to lose 40-60 more pounds. He's got a gut and is at least a step slow. It looks like he has softest hands of our post players. He could be a good player, but it might not be until late next year or his junior year. Don't know if he's physical like Colton and Trevor, or finesse like Sampson.

Devoe Joseph. Watched him closely last night. Lots of positive energy and interaction with his teammates. Saw Coach Smith shake his hand just before tip-off.

Not saying they have same talents but very similar size and shape.

Nazr was fat as frosh and played JV mostly. He was part-time starter as soph (after losing weight) and then All-SEC 1st team as junior, becoming 1st round NBA draft pick.
 

Thanks for the run down, jmag

I think it is going to be a tough year for Blake to get his shot off in the half court offense. I think it will be key for the Gophers to run for Blake to get a lot of good looks.
 

I think it is going to be a tough year for Blake to get his shot off in the half court offense. I think it will be key for the Gophers to run for Blake to get a lot of good looks.

As the offense develops it'll be easier for Blake, and Devoe coming back will loosen things up. The player on him last night did a hell of a job though. You could tell his one order was, "Don't leave Hoffarber for a second."
 



Not saying they have same talents but very similar size and shape.

Nazr was fat as frosh and played JV mostly. He was part-time starter as soph (after losing weight) and then All-SEC 1st team as junior, becoming 1st round NBA draft pick.

Welcome home FOT. I didn't look at who authored the post but when I read your comments, I was sure that it must be you. You certainly can stretch ones trivia envelope. :rolleyes:
 

Welcome home FOT. I didn't look at who authored the post but when I read your comments, I was sure that it must be you. You certainly can stretch ones trivia envelope. :rolleyes:

Just saying that it takes a couple of years to go from fat to fit on the basketball court.
 


:) Don't get me wrong. I enjoy the trivia. Sometimes it changes my perspective.

There was another guy in early 1980's. Kevin Duckworth from south Chicago suburbs. 7-ft and 350 pounds. He lost weight at Eastern IL Univ and became NBA player. Sadly he died in 2008. I think the weight returned after his 10+ year NBA career.
 



Big Mo looked liek just that. Big, not much else at all. he seemed lost or confused.
 

It was nice to see Rodney get aggressive on some drives. I thought he had a few tough calls last night.

Hollins didn't have his best game but the play where he stole the ball, led the past break, and dished for a dunk was encouraging. His horrendous 3 and form was slightly alarming. I don't remember his form looking quite that bad. That's just from recalling my reaction but maybe it wasn't THAT bad.
 

Chip looked good for a Freshman and Maverick played well within his means which was good to see. I was worried with what everyone was saying but I was pleasantly surprised. I don't think he sees that much time at all in the Big Ten.

Hollins was fine but they didn't give him any open looks. I don't think he resembles DJ that much. I think he is more of a lanky Rip Hamilton type who will hit a lot of mid range jumpers in his day.

Sampson is gaining confidence which has been his main problem. He can shoot it and should continue whenever he has the chance.

Hoffarber is lost without Devoe to open something up. His one asset is shooting and he is rareley freed up. He looks horrible when he puts the ball on the floor.

Trevor needs to play more. He is a beast. Clearly the difference between last season's team. Great Rebounder.

Al is the same as always. Nothing really different. Great D, some nice passes, but he missed RW on several alley-oops.

RW also needs a little more confidence. I liked him when he would go to the basket. He passed up several opportunities to do this. They should post him up more, and run some clearouts for him. He looks good around the basket.

Big Mo is a great project. He needs to get conditioned and stay off the DQ.

Overall I liked what I saw. For those fellow Gopher football fans out there it was a great alternative to see a good team. Very refreshing.
 

I don't know if you can conclude that Hoffarber was lost because Devoe wasn't out there. There are plenty of games where we just don't find open looks for him regardless of whether it's Devoe or Al out there. I actually think Nolen does a better job of finding him.
 

Blake was covered all night last night, and it's clear by this point in his career that, although he can help you if he's covered, by moving the ball well, and making nice cuts, he's never going to be able to shake the D and create his own shot. Other people picked him up, though, he played good D, and as I said, he was still valuable in other ways. I wish he could have figured out a way in his career to create his own shot, but he hasn't really shown it. I guess I should just be happy with what he is, which is the best shooter in the Big Ten, and one of the smartest players in the nation. Plus, he didn't have to hit outside shots last night, because big Mo was taking them for him.


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why do we keep saying this? because he's in Carlson? how does that translate??

in the 2nd 1/2, he tried to drive on back-to-back trips and BOTH times he turned it over... smart?
 

Blake was covered all night last night, and it's clear by this point in his career that, although he can help you if he's covered, by moving the ball well, and making nice cuts, he's never going to be able to shake the D and create his own shot. Other people picked him up, though, he played good D, and as I said, he was still valuable in other ways. I wish he could have figured out a way in his career to create his own shot, but he hasn't really shown it. I guess I should just be happy with what he is, which is the best shooter in the Big Ten, and one of the smartest players in the nation. Plus, he didn't have to hit outside shots last night, because big Mo was taking them for him.


'smart'
why do we keep saying this? because he's in Carlson? how does that translate??

in the 2nd 1/2, he tried to drive on back-to-back trips and BOTH times he turned it over... smart?


Lets see if we have this straight Carlson school of business does not = "smart"
2 turnovers in 28 minutes = not smart

that seems completely reasonable to me
 

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Lets see if we have this straight Carlson school of business does not = "smart"
2 turnovers in 28 minutes = not smart

that seems completely reasonable to me


No....I think the main reason people say that is because he knows exactly where to be on both offense and defense, almost always plays within his role, knows to box out and where to go to grab rebounds, understands how to effectively feed the post, has the best grasp on the team of how the offense should be run, stays extremely calm in high pressure situations, and can run the offense/handle the point in a pinch despite below average ballhandling skills (for a pg).

This all IN ADDITION to the fact that he is in Carlson, very good GPA, always stays away from any trouble, etc.
 

Exactly. Blake is the only one who doesn't make me nervous when he feeds the post, both from a turnover standpoint and just knowing when to do it. And he does play his role - against Wofford he was blanketed and I only saw him try one 3...he understood that the game was in the hands of the bigs and was happy to occupy defenders.

His positioning for rebounds is great, there's no other way for a slow guard with less hops than Big Mo to get that number of boards. Gotta be smart.

He will definitely be missed next year.
 

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Lets see if we have this straight Carlson school of business does not = "smart"
2 turnovers in 28 minutes = not smart

that seems completely reasonable to me



2 points from shooting guard in 28 minutes: not smart
slow footed shooting guard trying to drive down the middle: not smart
28 minutes for this guard: not smart.

blake is a relic of a former time in gopher history. so is devoe.
 

Exactly. Blake is the only one who doesn't make me nervous when he feeds the post, both from a turnover standpoint and just knowing when to do it. And he does play his role - against Wofford he was blanketed and I only saw him try one 3...he understood that the game was in the hands of the bigs and was happy to occupy defenders.

His positioning for rebounds is great, there's no other way for a slow guard with less hops than Big Mo to get that number of boards. Gotta be smart.

He will definitely be missed next year.


[I]His positioning for rebounds is great,[/I] <<< he sneaks in from the weak side for a few bunnies... or he runs down missed FT's in the corner... none of these rebounds are in traffic. he had 1 rebound on Friday in 28 minutes. STOP.

happy to occupy defenders <<<< what a great offense, just 'occupy defenders'... now we need all 5 starters to do the same! NOT.
 

The fact is Blake fills a necessary role in the offense. Who's the shooter right now when he's off the court? The game plan Friday did not call for him to be a scorer, but it will in other games.

We were 9-1 in games last year when he scored 14 points or more, including OSU/MSU/WI/NU/Iowa. No way we win all those games without him.

Bottom line is the guy hits 50% from the arc. Not bad...
 

The amount of points he scores in one game is "not smart"? That makes a ton of sense. What exactly is your point with all of your posts bashing Blake? Should we bench him so that we can literally have zero outside shooters out on the court? That way teams don't have to worry about one of the most efficient scorers in the country. They also won't have to worry about our best post-feeder getting it inside and they can just play zone and force us to shoot outside.

2 points from shooting guard in 28 minutes: not smart
slow footed shooting guard trying to drive down the middle: not smart
28 minutes for this guard: not smart.

blake is a relic of a former time in gopher history. so is devoe.
 



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The amount of points he scores in one game is "not smart"? That makes a ton of sense. What exactly is your point with all of your posts bashing Blake? Should we bench him so that we can literally have zero outside shooters out on the court? That way teams don't have to worry about one of the most efficient scorers in the country. They also won't have to worry about our best post-feeder getting it inside and they can just play zone and force us to shoot outside.


some of you have crushes on hoff.

(here i go again):

hoff is like thome this year in baseball... best if you never need him... but he's there if you do.... to bring you back into a game or to blow out a game.

you DONT give this type of talent 28 minutes in a basketball game... and have him score 2 pts... he should be at least a point-a-minute guy... if not, sit him.

some of you would start Thome at SS. your logic: give him more reps to hit more HRs. wink at the errors, missed DPs, strikeouts, LOBs, etc..

with Hoff on the floor, only God knows of the missed opportunity on both offense and defense (fastbreaks, steals, blocks, assists, mid-range jumpers) guys like chip or hollins won't miss these opportunities.

hoff is a relic from a time when we needed his offense and were willing to wink at his liabilites... if Tubby and his staff do their jobs, the team has matured beyond this.
 

some of you have crushes on hoff...
Your utter lack of any semblance of basketball knowledge is truly astounding.

You'd think that by even clicking onto Gopherhole, through some sort of electronic osmosis, that you'd gleam some tidbit of information/knowledge regarding the sport of basketball.

I can't understand why Tubby Smith plays Hoff 30 min a game and doesn't consult you for your expertise; if he listened to your advice regarding our team and playing time...we'd be 30-0 every year?!
 




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