PiPress article: Gophers won't allow Trevor Mbakwe to play despite trial delay

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PiPress Article: (Chief GH Editor Friend of Tubby decides thread titles)

Marcus Fuller just wrote this article in the Pioneer Press.

The Miami Dade DA office seems to be pretty confident in their case, as does the defense; it'll be interesting...
 

How can this possibly be true:

"Chavez also said the defense received more information about the case, including information about one of Mbakwe's alibi witnesses, former Miami Dade College coach Matt Dunn. The defense was unaware that Dunn is now a member of the University of Memphis basketball staff that is recruiting Mbakwe."

Dunn joined the staff last year and he is an apparent big witness for Trevor. So either Trevor's lawyer isn't keeping tabs on his key witnesses (that are supposedly tough to track down) or he isn't talking to his client.

It takes two seconds to google Dunn's name to find this bio:

http://www.gotigersgo.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/dunn_matt00.html

Is that normal for a defense attorney to not know that one of his key witnesses has moved from Miami to Memphis and is now recruiting his client??

Go Gophers!!
 

With this announcement from the U, me thinks it's going to get very ugly on this board in the next few days. Am going to do my best to avoid the nastiness that is sure to ensue.
 

Is the District Attorney a Wisonsin or Iowa grad? This is ridiculous!
 

ShowinGoldyLove said:
Marcus Fuller just wrote this article in the Pioneer Press.

The Miami Dade DA office seems to be pretty confident in their case, as does the defense; it'll be interesting...
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Okay, this is just plain stupid by Maturi at this point. So Maturi is saying if the trial gets strung out until fall he'll consider giving Mbakwe a break and let him play- but its not certain. Meanwhile, some other college such as Memphis can tell Mbakwe that they will stand by him. Since Mbakwe has to decide by August to transfer to have any shot of being eligible we are essentially FORCING him to go with the school that will promise him he can play if there is further delay. So we are sealing our fate unless I am missing something here.

I just don't get what we have to lose at this point be telling the kid he is reinstated unless found guilty. What would we have done wrong ethically?
 


Misleading Title Marcus

"If Trevor's case is continually delayed and it's by the prosecution and not by the defense, then I will truly be willing to look at the decision we've made," Maturi said. "I certainly don't want to have his collegiate career impacted. Last year, he was able to redshirt. We had hoped that it would have been resolved. It wasn't. Now any time that he misses would be a loss of his collegiate eligibility. We certainly don't want that. He has done the right things and done well in the classroom and socially.

"It's my understanding that as a defendant he has a right to a quick trial. I've shared that with Trevor. If it's now Aug. 23, then it could still be resolved before school starts. If not, then I'm certainly open to review why it is not and look at the decision that was made."
 


bga1 said:
Okay, this is just plain stupid by Maturi at this point. So Maturi is saying if the trial gets strung out until fall he'll consider giving Mbakwe a break and let him play- but its not certain. Meanwhile, some other college such as Memphis can tell Mbakwe that they will stand by him. Since Mbakwe has to decide by August to transfer to have any shot of being eligible we are essentially FORCING him to go with the school that will promise him he can play if there is further delay. So we are sealing our fate unless I am missing something here.

I just don't get what we have to lose at this point be telling the kid he is reinstated unless found guilty. What would we have done wrong ethically?
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I'm with you 100% bga1.

What I also don't understand is that if Maturi is willing to lift the suspension if the trial gets moved back again, then why not just lift the suspension now? That way Trevor knows he has a place to play if the trial gets pushed back. It would appear that the approach Maturi is taking (or whomever is making this decision if it's not Maturi's) is a very passive-aggressive approach, where he hopes he doesn't have to make a decision, and is actually hoping that the trial happens (like we all want, one way or another) or that Trevor bolts to Beale Street so Joel doesn't have to make a decision.

Very strange quotes and lack of decision.

Go Gophers!!
 

To sum up: Joel once again refuses to make a decision until he is absolutely forced to, even though nothing is going to change. Trevor's as good as gone and I no longer blame him. I'm sure Tubby is less then thrilled with his boss right now too. I guess we can do nothing but hope Tubby stays despite it and Joel's retirement comes sooner then later.
 



Title doesn't match the story - there is no change in what Maturi has said in the recent past is what I read.

Also, the article says:
"The Gopher coaches aren't allowed to watch their players at Pulley, but Pastner was able to because it's an NCAA certified league and it's during the recruiting period."... both assertions I'm not convinced are accurate.

NCAA certified league does not equal NCAA certified event.
 

Tubby has been a BIG advocate of Trevor so far. Tubby wasn't exactly thrilled, but willing to go along with Trevor's one season suspension. I don't think Tubby will like Maturi's 'passive-agressive' stand to this situation virtually forcing Trevor's hand to make the jump to Memphis.
 

I agree with Clem and GW... Fuller's title is bunk.

Maturi was fairly positive, he's banking on Trevor's trail taking place in August, that way he doesn't have to put his neck on the line. The only way I see Trevor remaining a Gopher, is if the NCAA rejects his waiver.
 

BleedGopher said:
It would appear that the approach Maturi is taking (or whomever is making this decision if it's not Maturi's) is a very passive-aggressive approach, where he hopes he doesn't have to make a decision, and is actually hoping that the trial happens (like we all want, one way or another) or that Trevor bolts to Beale Street so Joel doesn't have to make a decision.

Go Gophers!!
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Sadly, that's his approach to most things. Only two things are likely to happen between now and September: 1. The trial occurs, in which case Joel's lifting his suspension now will be rendered moot one way or the other. 2. A further delay, but probably not for any reason that would alter his thought process. Bottom line is that there's basically no difference between deciding this now and 6 weeks from now, excpet that Trevor will have had it and bolted out the door in the interim.
 





The title changed.

But I still think it's because he's black!
 



I hate joel maturi. The guy is a complete a$$ hole for saying if the trial was delayed he would consider letting him play, and then when the time comes, consider turns into "you will never play here" muhahahaha
 


98VQueens said:
I agree with Clem and GW... Fuller's title is bunk.

Maturi was fairly positive, he's banking on Trevor's trail taking place in August, that way he doesn't have to put his neck on the line. The only way I see Trevor remaining a Gopher, is if the NCAA rejects his waiver.
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Agreed. I think it is a high risk move by Trevor to transfer without a waiver since he has no redshirt. I also think the NCAA will not grant a waiver because the U is waiting on the legal system to play itself out. Like it or not, it is reasonable behavior. It also seems unlikely to me that Memphis can "sponsor" his waiver request when he is not a student there. That circumstance just stinks to me.

In the end, it just seems highly unlikely to me that Trevor has any chance at all of playing anywhere other than the U of M this year. If he transfers, he sits no matter what, and without redshirt he loses a year of eligibility. While very unhappy with the labyrinth of his situation, it just does not appear he has real choices if he really wants to play this year.

From the analysis above, Trevor should be as ticked at his lawyer as he is at the U.
 

ShowinGoldyLove said:
Marcus Fuller just wrote this article in the Pioneer Press.

The Miami Dade DA office seems to be pretty confident in their case, as does the defense; it'll be interesting...
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Not the same as what you wrote above:

Gophers might consider allowing Trevor Mbakwe to play despite trial delay
By Marcus R. Fuller
[email protected]
Updated: 07/14/2010 01:46:21 PM CDT

After another delay in Trevor Mbakwe's assault trial, Gophers athletics director Joel Maturi said he would consider reviewing Mbakwe's situation if the trial isn't concluded before the start of the fall semester.
 

Surely this conference has been scheduled for some time, at least months. Why was the case rescheduled for a time when the judge would not be available? Now Trevor has to wait until August, unless there is another continuance. Perhaps another conference will come out of nowhere.

IMHO, this case has been mishandled by the attorneys, the judge and the clerk of court. If this is typical of the way the wheels of justice turn in Dade County, it seems rather amazing that anything gets done. Trevor is stuck in this mess and can do nothing about it. He must be allowed to play.
 

Question ... has anyone from Memphis, basketball staff or University staff or the AD, publicly stated that if he gets a waiver Trevor can play immediatley for Memphis? Maybe someone can correct me, but I have not seen that comment.
 

Friend Of Tubby said:
Not the same as what you wrote above:

Gophers might consider allowing Trevor Mbakwe to play despite trial delay
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In case you missed what others have posted, my thread title WAS the original title of the article.

Fuller changed it after about 45 minutes.
 


scher215 said:
Question ... has anyone from Memphis, basketball staff or University staff or the AD, publicly stated that if he gets a waiver Trevor can play immediatley for Memphis? Maybe someone can correct me, but I have not seen that comment.
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While Memphis may have messed up when the head coach attended the HP game, they probably know better than to publicly talk about about the playing time they would offer to a student who is enrolled at another university.
 

ShowinGoldyLove said:
In case you missed what others have posted, my thread title WAS the original title of the article.

Fuller changed it after about 45 minutes.
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I think you can edit the thread title by choosing Edit and then Go Advanced.
 


Friend Of Tubby said:
Then change yours. It's NOT what the article says.
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Should I wait for him to change the title... then quickly change my post that said that the title doesn't match up with the story?

Things change... much of life is history - to document history, even though situations and circumstances change is normal. You sound like a proponent of revisionist history. Maybe you should consider a change of your own, if that's what you demand others do, MCWT.
 

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