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You beat me to it. I thought the ver y same thing.
Party crashers: Northern Illinois to Orange Bowl
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You beat me to it. I thought the ver y same thing.
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Which part of the post was inaccurate?
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There's no comparison between the 2006 Boise St. team and this NIU team leading up to the bowl game. Boise St. was undefeated for one, and they beat Oregon St. by 28. Oregon St. went 10-4 that year. Northern Illinois' best non-conference win was over Kansas by 7. Kansas won one game this year. They also beat Army by one. Army has two wins.
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Northern Illinois also lost to a 4-8 Iowa team.
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per SHAMA: Kill Built MAC Champs & Other Notes
Northern Illinois won the MAC football championship last Friday night with a roster of players Gophers coach Jerry Kill and his assistants recruited. The Huskies, with 18 of 22 starters recruited by Kill, won their second consecutive MAC title defeating Kent State 44-37 in double overtime.
Redshirt junior quarterback Jordan Lynch ran for 160 yards and passed for 212 in the win. Lynch was recruited by Kill in 2009 and at that time was rated a two-star player by Rivals.com. He was voted the MAC’s 2012 MVP and the school is promoting him as a Heisman Trophy candidate.
Junior tailback Akeem Daniels, 5-foot-7, ran for 128 yards in the win for the top 25 ranked Huskies. Daniels was part of Kill’s 2010 recruiting class and was also a Rivals two-star recruit.
Kill coached at Northern Illinois for three seasons, leading the Huskies to three bowl games with his best season in 2010, a 10-3 record. His successor, former Badgers assistant coach Dave Doeren, has coached the Huskies to records of 11-3 and 12-1. The Huskies will play in the 2013 Orange Bowl, the first MAC team to earn a BCS bowl game invite.
Northern Illinois won the MAC football championship last Friday night with a roster of players Gophers coach Jerry Kill and his assistants recruited. The Huskies, with 18 of 22 starters recruited by Kill, won their second consecutive MAC title defeating Kent State 44-37 in double overtime.
Redshirt junior quarterback Jordan Lynch ran for 160 yards and passed for 212 in the win. Lynch was recruited by Kill in 2009 and at that time was rated a two-star player by Rivals.com. He was voted the MAC’s 2012 MVP and the school is promoting him as a Heisman Trophy candidate.
Junior tailback Akeem Daniels, 5-foot-7, ran for 128 yards in the win for the top 25 ranked Huskies. Daniels was part of Kill’s 2010 recruiting class and was also a Rivals two-star recruit.
Kill coached at Northern Illinois for three seasons, leading the Huskies to three bowl games with his best season in 2010, a 10-3 record. His successor, former Badgers assistant coach Dave Doeren, has coached the Huskies to records of 11-3 and 12-1. The Huskies will play in the 2013 Orange Bowl, the first MAC team to earn a BCS bowl game invite.
This does reflect well on Kill and his staff to a point. N Illinois won the MAC. Nothing against that but they didn't have to play the type of schedule Kill's team does now in conference. If the type of recruits you have bolded are the norm Kill lands at Minnesota is that good enough to move up in the conference standings?
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In addition, 2 of the top 3 WRs are Kill recruits also. Martel Moore (71rec/1,054yds) and Perez Ashford (30/354) both 2-star guys in 2009.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2009/northernillinois-42
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They aren't, though.
(per Rivals)
2008 Northern Illinois overall team ranking - #119
2009 Northern Illinois overall team ranking - #91
2010 Northern Illinois overall team ranking - #83
2011 Minnesota overall team ranking - #52
2012 Minnesota overall team ranking - #72
2013 Minnesota overall team ranking - #71 (so far)
People want to pretend that he's recruiting at a MAC level, but Rivals would disagree pretty strongly. Any of his Minnesota classes would very easily rank #1 in the MAC for the corresponding year.
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Kirk Herbsteit made a dink of himself crying about NIU
Kirk H can suck it. Just as many fans are excited to see NIU play Florida State in the Orange bowl that would have been interested in seeing Oklahoma play Florida State. Kirk is just butt hurt that Ohio State cannot go to a bowl or the national title game because they cheated. It was about time Ohio State paid the price for there decades long cheating.
It the NIU versus Florida State match up adds intrigue and a David versus Goliath feel to the Orange bowl,
especially with how many Florida State fans will be at the game. They did NIU no favors sending them to Miami.
Good thing from the Mac or NIU perspective is the Huskes QB and wide receivers will be able to play with the FSU defense.
They do not have the depth but do have the speed and exceptional QB to compete. I think NIU can hang with FSU and will
play up to there level and even has a chance to knock them off. This Seminoles squad isn't the dominate team from the 1990's,
they have a good defense but a substandard offense.
Kirk H can suck it. Just as many fans are excited to see NIU play Florida State in the Orange bowl that would have been interested in seeing Oklahoma play Florida State. Kirk is just butt hurt that Ohio State cannot go to a bowl or the national title game because they cheated. It was about time Ohio State paid the price for there decades long cheating.
It the NIU versus Florida State match up adds intrigue and a David versus Goliath feel to the Orange bowl,
especially with how many Florida State fans will be at the game. They did NIU no favors sending them to Miami.
Good thing from the Mac or NIU perspective is the Huskes QB and wide receivers will be able to play with the FSU defense.
They do not have the depth but do have the speed and exceptional QB to compete. I think NIU can hang with FSU and will
play up to there level and even has a chance to knock them off. This Seminoles squad isn't the dominate team from the 1990's,
they have a good defense but a substandard offense.
If I'm understanding the new BCS setup for 2014 correctly, it may be a "ridiculous" rule you'll still have to live with. If the new rules were already in place, I believe NIU would have qualified for the BCS finishing as the highest ranked Group of 5 conference champions. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Good luck to Coach Kill and the Gophers in the Meinecke Car Care Bowl
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+1
This non AQ rule reminds of dividing HS sports into multiple classes so everyone can feel good. It is an exhibition. Oklahoma would have made it a much better game.
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As someone who wears maroon and gold glasses, I want to believe this reflects good on Coach Kill. But I also thought that Gonzaga's continued success ten years ago reflected well on Dan Monson at first.
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For all the times that the big school gets the benefit of the doubt over the Boise States of the world. It's about time the little guy gets a shot.
Everyone who has a problem with this. It's the way it goes. Don't watch the game. You won't be missed.
Congrats to NIU.
Oklahoma has two home losses. They don't deserve it either.
Everyone who has a problem with this. It's the way it goes. Don't watch the game. You won't be missed.
Congrats to NIU.
Oklahoma has two home losses. They don't deserve it either.
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Should we lament not hiring Doeren?
I get your point, and I'm certainly no Northern Illinois expert, but I would have to believe the Kill's impact on NIU this year is greater than Brewster's on MN.
I cant fathom than NIU's roster is in place where true Freshman are being played everywhere, and Doeren has burned near 30 red-shirts in two years.
Also, the many of the Brew recruits did next to nothing under the coaching of Brewster (Carter, Hageman, Wilhite, Barker)
Kill and his staff should be given credit for recruiting at a higher level from where they were at with NIU. The 2012 Minnesota class according to Rivals would rank easily as you point out #1 in the MAC. Which per Rivals compared to the teams in the conference Kill is recruiting against now the class ranked last.
Not saying Kill needs to finish in the top 5 of the conference in recruiting but whether this staff can recruit well enough for a jump in the conference standings is still a fair question.
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Yes, it absolutely is.