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Great! Let’s beat someone and be relevant outside the 5 state area…
Fleck has said he wanted to do what guys like Alvarez/Fry/Ferentz have done at their schools. Cynical fans just dismissed it and assumed he would be out the door at the first chance he got.Is Fleck Nick Saban? No. But it's the best stretch of Gopher football since the 60's. He's our guy and he seems to love it here. We're very competitive, have quality kids, not a lot of turnover, and have, what i think, is a growing perception of a "life" program. I honestly don't think we can hire better unless PJ brings us to the next level and then leaves.
I'm starting to think he's our Alvarez or Ferentz. Just need to get 1 or 2 more wins a year. I think we're trending up with some of the recruits we're getting.
Fleck has said he wanted to do what guys like Alvarez/Fry/Ferentz have done at their schools. Cynical fans just dismissed it and assumed he would be out the door at the first chance he got.
How about we increase his assistant pool... I'm sick of loosing asst/coordinators every year
Nick saban finished top 4 of the big ten once and never won it while coaching a program that has had much more success than the gophersIs Fleck Nick Saban? No. But it's the best stretch of Gopher football since the 60's. He's our guy and he seems to love it here. We're very competitive, have quality kids, not a lot of turnover, and have, what i think, is a growing perception of a "life" program. I honestly don't think we can hire better unless PJ brings us to the next level and then leaves.
I'm starting to think he's our Alvarez or Ferentz. Just need to get 1 or 2 more wins a year. I think we're trending up with some of the recruits we're getting.
Let us know when you find out.So.... How close is he to his peers wage wise? How big is the salary difference between him and the #8 or #9 guy?
What's not true about the headline?He’s still underpaid but step in the right direction.
Strib doing their normal rage bait BS:
P.J. Fleck gets contract extension while Gophers athletic department anticipates budget deficit
They should really be honest and just rebrand themselves as a tabloid.
This headline is also true:What's not true about the headline?
Thank you. Excellent post.This headline is also true:
Men's Football team brings in $40 million of profits to University but only gives Fleck a meager raise.
or
MN Football coaches still only paid about 15% of revenue that Football makes for the university despite raise.
In the end the Star Tribune picked the headline that would be the most disparaging toward the University and against the football program in general. It actually hinders revenue growth for the University by getting people upset at football spending because to many people think if we spend money there we are taking money from academics - vs realizing that we get way more back from the dollars we spend there vs. what we put into it.
Fleck is helping the U of M out a ton and the academics of the U are better with him being on campus.
For those who want to dig in: https://gophersports.com/documents/2025/1/14/Minnesota_FY24_NCAA_Online_Report_-_FINAL_01.14.25.pdf
Fleck is also helping keep the non-revenue sports afloat.This headline is also true:
Men's Football team brings in $40 million of profits to University but only gives Fleck a meager raise.
or
MN Football coaches still only paid about 15% of revenue that Football makes for the university despite raise.
In the end the Star Tribune picked the headline that would be the most disparaging toward the University and against the football program in general. It actually hinders revenue growth for the University by getting people upset at football spending because to many people think if we spend money there we are taking money from academics - vs realizing that we get way more back from the dollars we spend there vs. what we put into it.
Fleck is helping the U of M out a ton and the academics of the U are better with him being on campus.
For those who want to dig in: https://gophersports.com/documents/2025/1/14/Minnesota_FY24_NCAA_Online_Report_-_FINAL_01.14.25.pdf
Himself, of course! Everyone on GopherHole knows more than the coaching staff.If you were making the decision, which coach (of the available ones) would you hire as coach at the U?
Like most newspapers, they are trying to be relevant. The fastest way is to be negative and use half-truths. It’s about trying to win a prize and the adoration of your peers. The reader is irrelevant.This headline is also true:
Men's Football team brings in $40 million of profits to University but only gives Fleck a meager raise.
or
MN Football coaches still only paid about 15% of revenue that Football makes for the university despite raise.
In the end the Star Tribune picked the headline that would be the most disparaging toward the University and against the football program in general. It actually hinders revenue growth for the University by getting people upset at football spending because to many people think if we spend money there we are taking money from academics - vs realizing that we get way more back from the dollars we spend there vs. what we put into it.
Fleck is helping the U of M out a ton and the academics of the U are better with him being on campus.
For those who want to dig in: https://gophersports.com/documents/2025/1/14/Minnesota_FY24_NCAA_Online_Report_-_FINAL_01.14.25.pdf
Nothing new in this statement. However, it is the non-revenue sports (swimming, wrestling, track, etc.) that supply our Olympic teams. Without this feed from the collegiate sports, many Olympic sports would falter.Fleck is also helping keep the non-revenue sports afloat.
Where's the half-truth?Like most newspapers, they are trying to be relevant. The fastest way is to be negative and use half-truths. It’s about trying to win a prize and the adoration of your peers. The reader is irrelevant.
For sure. I'm no fan of the changes happening in college sports.Nothing new in this statement. However, it is the non-revenue sports (swimming, wrestling, track, etc.) that supply our Olympic teams. Without this feed from the collegiate sports, many Olympic sports would falter.
Jed fing fisch is higher paid than PJ Fleck. That is a crime.Well, here were the numbers as of February and I don't know if there were any significant changes other than Bielema, who jumped to $7.7M, which tied him at 6th with Jedd Fisch. There isn't a massive disparity between 5th and 11th at this kind of money and if you want to talk getting to the 4th spot with Dan Lanning then win the Big1G. SI article from February:
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Highest-Paid Big Ten Coaches After Ohio State's Ryan Day Massive Contract Extension
Fresh off winning the 2024-25 College Football Playoff National Championship, Ohio State Buckeyes coach Ryan Day was rewarded with a three-year contract extensiwww.si.com
Cignetti also got a new contract last year at $8 million per year.Well, here were the numbers as of February, and there must have been multiple coaching contract updates to move PJ's rank to 11th based on where things stood in February. Back in Feb, there wasn't a massive disparity between 5th and 11th at this kind of money and if you want to talk getting to the 4th spot with Dan Lanning, then win the Big1G. PJ's base salary is $6M and with the retention bonus, he's sitting at $7M if he's still here on Dec. 31st. So, he's not exactly getting screwed.
As mentioned, this SI article is from February this year and I wish they did a complete follow-up as there must have been quite a few contract updates since then to place PJ at 11th:
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Highest-Paid Big Ten Coaches After Ohio State's Ryan Day Massive Contract Extension
Fresh off winning the 2024-25 College Football Playoff National Championship, Ohio State Buckeyes coach Ryan Day was rewarded with a three-year contract extensiwww.si.com
Those three won conference championships. Maybe Fleck gets there with the playing field now slightly leveled. But Fleck did have interest at UCLA but UCLA's poverty dimmed his interest. I do think the longer he's here the less likely he leaves absent a few sub .500 seasons.Fleck has said he wanted to do what guys like Alvarez/Fry/Ferentz have done at their schools. Cynical fans just dismissed it and assumed he would be out the door at the first chance he got.