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WI will have played 4 (counting the Outback Bowl and B1G Championship)
 

All the more reason the Gophers need to take advantage & kick some tail in 2016 when the schedule considerably lightens!
 


I like playing tough teams, Wisconsin and Iowa's games are snooze fests, I just want this team to get to a point where they consistently compete in them.
 



To be fair. One of our top 25 games in that span will be Iowa. And none of their top 25 games will be Minnesota,
 

Some guy said:
To be fair. One of our top 25 games in that span will be Iowa. And none of their top 25 games will be Minnesota,
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So it still will be 10 Top 25 Teams for Minnesota and 3 for Iowa. To be fair that probably explains why Iowa is still a Top 25 team.

Good catch.
 

Iceland12 said:
So it still will be 10 Top 25 Teams for Minnesota and 3 for Iowa. To be fair that probably explains why Iowa is still a Top 25 team.

Good catch.
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So are you saying if we only played teams like Wisconsin and northwestern and Pitt we would be ranked?
 



Wow what a stat i new the gophers had tough schedule but that is crazy.
 

last 16 games

Minnesota record vs top 25. 1-6
Minnesota record vs not too 25. 7-2

Iowa record vs top 25. 2-1
Iowa record vs not top 25. 9-4
 

Originally Posted by Iceland12
So it still will be 10 Top 25 Teams for Minnesota and 3 for Iowa. To be fair that probably explains why Iowa is still a Top 25 team.

Good catch.

Some guy said:
So are you saying if we only played teams like Wisconsin and northwestern and Pitt we would be ranked?
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That's what you think? No, was saying that if Iowa played TCU, tOSU, MI plus WI and NW they wouldn't be in the Top 25.

You think they would be then. Good for you
 

Iceland12 said:
Originally Posted by Iceland12
So it still will be 10 Top 25 Teams for Minnesota and 3 for Iowa. To be fair that probably explains why Iowa is still a Top 25 team.

Good catch.





That's what you think? No, was saying that if Iowa played TCU, tOSU, MI plus WI and NW they wouldn't be in the Top 25.

You think they would be then. Good for you
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If the gophers won at Wisconsin and northwestern, they'd be in the top 25 too.
 



Some guy said:
If the gophers won at Wisconsin and northwestern, they'd be in the top 25 too.
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If the Gophers were now 5-3 with a victory against NW they would not be in the Top 25. If they ended-up 7-5 with victories against WI and NW that wouldn't get them into the Top 25.

You were just trying to be snarky and you got called on it. Now you are running hard away from the idea that Iowa's record, not getting TCU and getting Maryland and Indy rather than tOSU and MI, is heavily due to their schedule.

You can pretend that your just "stringing this along" or just stop now. You usually make a lot of sense. This doesn't.
 

Iowa 2-1 vs top 25 last 16 games
Minnesota 1-6



Tough to compare them. Iowa was pretty terrible last year, to the point that many thought Ferentz was on the hot seat entering the year. I personally thought Iowa would win the west this year going into the season and thought the gophers would probably be 7-5.
Looking like I'll be 50%.

We can whine about the schedule all we want, good teams win games. Bad teams don't.
 

Some guy said:
Iowa 2-1 vs top 25 last 16 games
Minnesota 1-6



Tough to compare them. Iowa was pretty terrible last year, to the point that many thought Ferentz was on the hot seat entering the year. I personally thought Iowa would win the west this year going into the season and thought the gophers would probably be 7-5.
Looking like I'll be 50%.

We can whine about the schedule all we want, good teams win games. Bad teams don't.
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To be clear, my intention was not to "whine about the schedule". It's fair to say Iowa has had a fairly easy schedule the year and last, that is all.
 

Some guy said:
Iowa 2-1 vs top 25 last 16 games
Minnesota 1-6



Tough to compare them. Iowa was pretty terrible last year, to the point that many thought Ferentz was on the hot seat entering the year. I personally thought Iowa would win the west this year going into the season and thought the gophers would probably be 7-5.
Looking like I'll be 50%.

We can whine about the schedule all we want, good teams win games. Bad teams don't.
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And you probably thought that after looking at the schedules! :rolleyes:

Forget the cliches and just recognize the fact that TCU, tOSU, MI much tougher than Pitt, MD, IN
 

Rather than comparing schedules let's just watch the game in two weeks.
 

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Iowa 2-1 vs top 25 last 16 games
Minnesota 1-6
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Wow, Iowa has a whopping 1 additional win vs top 25 compared to us. Such a huge difference.
 


Iceland12 said:
Closest you can come to admitting your wrong huh?
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Wrong about what? What is one wrong thing I have said in this entire thread.


Minnesota has played a tougher schedule. Never said they didn't.
Iowa is a better team this year.
Minnesota was a better team last year.

I don't think any of those three things are debatable at this point. And I don't know what I've said other than that. I do think Iowa would be top 25 this year with the gophers schedule. They'd probably be 6-2 or 7-1 (this point is debatable and not provable either way).
 


Indiana is D-Day.... Minnesota is V-Day...

Might be lucky to end up #25 at the end.
 

Minnesota did a good job of scheduling TCU.
The rest is just how the B1G schedule came out. You can only play the conference games on the schedule.
Iowa is 8-0 due in part to the lack of quality crossover games in conference and catching teams at the right time (Wisconsin without Clement, for example). Iowa could lose to Indiana Saturday or to the Gophers or both. That's what makes the games fun to watch.
 

StPaulHawkeye said:
Minnesota did a good job of scheduling TCU.
The rest is just how the B1G schedule came out. You can only play the conference games on the schedule.
Iowa is 8-0 due in part to the lack of quality crossover games in conference and catching teams at the right time (Wisconsin without Clement, for example). Iowa could lose to Indiana Saturday or to the Gophers or both. That's what makes the games fun to watch.
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A somewhat well reasoned take from a hawkeye....maybe we can all get along! [emoji6]

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StPaulHawkeye said:
Minnesota did a good job of scheduling TCU.
The rest is just how the B1G schedule came out. You can only play the conference games on the schedule.
Iowa is 8-0 due in part to the lack of quality crossover games in conference and catching teams at the right time (Wisconsin without Clement, for example). Iowa could lose to Indiana Saturday or to the Gophers or both. That's what makes the games fun to watch.
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That all maybe true and very reasonable. The real issue is that the B1G permitted this imbalance in the conference schedule to occur two years in a row when they knew that future schedule rotation would be starting from scratch when it goes to a 9 game conference schedule in 2016. Iowa and Wisconsin both benefited in 2014 and 15, the Gophers were disadvantaged. Furthermore, Iowa has avoided Ohio State more than any other B1G program, and giving them Ohio St in either 2014 or 2015, or 2016 for that matter, would've been appropriate. The B1G originally divided the conference Legend/Leaders based on historical success to balance the divisions, yet they couldn't devise a balanced schedule for the last two years of the 8 game schedule. Maybe I'm giving the B1G too much credit for having some intelligence.
 

Ha, thanks, Iceland. I don't get that very often.
If the Gophers were 8-0, no matter how they got there, Gopher fans would, and should, be dreaming about "what if?" That's why we follow our teams, right? Seasons like this don't happen very often for our teams - when they come along, if you don't imagine and dream a little, when will you?

And if the Gophers were 8-0, you can bet that I would be cheering for the Hawkeyes to ruin your perfect season.
:cool:
 

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KillerGopherFan said:
That all maybe true and very reasonable. The real issue is that the B1G permitted this imbalance in the conference schedule to occur two years in a row when they knew that future schedule rotation would be starting from scratch when it goes to a 9 game conference schedule in 2016. Iowa and Wisconsin both benefited in 2014 and 15, the Gophers were disadvantaged. Furthermore, Iowa has avoided Ohio State more than any other B1G program, and giving them Ohio St in either 2014 or 2015, or 2016 for that matter, would've been appropriate. The B1G originally divided the conference Legend/Leaders based on historical success to balance the divisions, yet they couldn't devise a balanced schedule for the last two years of the 8 game schedule. Maybe I'm giving the B1G too much credit for having some intelligence.
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Bingo. Barry was instrumental in this two year rotation, knowing full well that the whole thing would be blown up anyway (9 game schedule, expanding to 16, etc.). It was the equivalent of a money grab. They couldn't saddle everyone with tough crossovers and likely thought Iowa would be pretty bad. Notice Nebraska (who I'm sure they though would be pretty good got MSU). Gophers obviously offered little resistance and got rammed with Michigan and Ohio St. Barry and WI are quite detestable, but you can't argue against their on-field and AD office dominance. Give Iowa credit for winning the games on their schedule, but I could easily see Ohio St. beating them by 50 in the Big Ten Title game.
 

balds said:
Bingo. Barry was instrumental in this two year rotation, knowing full well that the whole thing would be blown up anyway (9 game schedule, expanding to 16, etc.). It was the equivalent of a money grab. They couldn't saddle everyone with tough crossovers and likely thought Iowa would be pretty bad. Notice Nebraska (who I'm sure they though would be pretty good got MSU). Gophers obviously offered little resistance and got rammed with Michigan and Ohio St. Barry and WI are quite detestable, but you can't argue against their on-field and AD office dominance. Give Iowa credit for winning the games on their schedule, but I could easily see Ohio St. beating them by 50 in the Big Ten Title game.
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Everything will even out, and the next two years it'll be Wisconsin fans making the exact same complaints as Minnesota fans, plus 50%. Instead of Rutgers and Maryland as the crossovers. Wisconsin will play Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State. in fact, the Big Ten schedule opens with those three games, two of which are on the road (and they play LSU, too). You can't do anything about your conference schedule, even Barry's influence only goes so far. It all evens out as it always has.
 

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