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Outsider said:
I’ll trade Thompson for Evans, Wisky can have him. I’m not impressed with him. Too slow n defense and for a guy who’s a 7 footer he needs to block and alter way more shots then he does.
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Might evans struggle with stronger players?
 

Outsider said:
I’ll trade Thompson for Evans, Wisky can have him. I’m not impressed with him. Too slow n defense and for a guy who’s a 7 footer he needs to block and alter way more shots then he does.
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Do you think Gophers will ever get to the concept of team?
 

forever a gopher said:
Rather concerning that during the broadcast they said Ben wasn’t going to “do anything” about the FT shooting until the holidays. Excuse me??

It is one of the easiest things to do all by yourself, whenever you have time. There are zero excuses as to why players can’t be at least competent FT shooters at this level. I can give a pass to the freshman, but once on campus, they need to be shooting a crap ton on a daily basis.
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Do you think that they don’t practice free throws? Some of the greatest NBA players ever were/are awful free throw shooters. I think Giannis shoots 100/day and shoots 50%. Would 200/day help? 300? At some point he just is shitty at it.
 

Crappie said:
Might evans struggle with stronger players?
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He might, but when I see TT unable to block or alter a shot from guys he towers over I get disgusted. He is totally frustrating on the defensive end of the floor.
 

PhiloVance said:
Do you think Gophers will ever get to the concept of team?
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I subscribe to the theory that to play as a team you first have to play significant time together. We aren’t there yet, two guys just got on the floor after time missed, and I don’t think the best 5 in my mind have played very much time together yet.
 


Outsider said:
I subscribe to the theory that to play as a team you first have to play significant time together. We aren’t there yet, two guys just got on the floor after time missed, and I don’t think the best 5 in my mind have played very much time together yet.
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Hope your right haven't seen team concept yet under Johnsons coaching.
 


WriterGoph said:
Actually he said he is a born again Christian on that interview. I think he did plenty of damage before he found Jesus though.
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That may be, but it seems he got heavy into the communion wine before coming to the game then.
 

Jack jones said:
who are we going to beat in the B1G? Maybe Nebraska. Certainly no one else. When does Johnson’s set start to get hot?
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Next season, because the majority opinion is he needs a little more time. Once the Hindenburg crashes this season, attitudes will change. The spectres of Little Ricky and Tubby will rise up in peoples' memories and the torches and pitchforks will come out, again.
 



Jack jones said:
who are we going to beat in the B1G? Maybe Nebraska. Certainly no one else. When does Johnson’s set start to get hot?
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Seems you have no faith in your capacity to light a fire. 😏

We won't win many games this year. Will we be more competitive in February than we are in December? If we aren't, then we can start to be concerned.
 

UpAndUnder43 said:
Do you think that they don’t practice free throws? Some of the greatest NBA players ever were/are awful free throw shooters. I think Giannis shoots 100/day and shoots 50%. Would 200/day help? 300? At some point he just is shitty at it.
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Oh, they practice free throws? You think?

WTF are you talking about? Giannis is a 71% career FT shooter.

There is zero reason a guy who has been playing basketball for most of his life isn’t at least mildly competent at FT’s. It is the most reproducible, easily practiced things you can do in basketball.

If your claim is true, and all these guys are just somehow “inherently” bad FT shooters no matter how much they practice (which makes zero sense), then CBJ needs to recruit players that are better FT shooters from the outset. This will absolutely cost them multiple games this season.
 

forever a gopher said:
Oh, they practice free throws? You think?

WTF are you talking about? Giannis is a 71% career FT shooter.

There is zero reason a guy who has been playing basketball for most of his life isn’t at least mildly competent at FT’s. It is the most reproducible, easily practiced things you can do in basketball.

If your claim is true, and all these guys are just somehow “inherently” bad FT shooters no matter how much they practice (which makes zero sense), then CBJ needs to recruit players that are better FT shooters from the outset. This will absolutely cost them multiple games this season.
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How do you replicate a FT in a game in a practice setting? Of course giys shoot them on their own time. All players do, doesn’t always equate to a game free throw. There is more to it like elevated heart rate, fans yelling, plus just the mental aspect. These guys shoot all the time or you don’t make it at the college level
 




At this point they should start shooting FTs granny style….honestly if you can’t hit 65%, it should be a national requirement
 

Wet_Blanket_Guy said:
At this point they should start shooting FTs granny style….honestly if you can’t hit 65%, it should be a national requirement
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btw, Cooper hit 65% of his FT at Morehead las season, at 48% so far this season. On the plus side, he's shooting 60% on 3s
 



forever a gopher said:
Oh, they practice free throws? You think?

WTF are you talking about? Giannis is a 71% career FT shooter.

There is zero reason a guy who has been playing basketball for most of his life isn’t at least mildly competent at FT’s. It is the most reproducible, easily practiced things you can do in basketball.

If your claim is true, and all these guys are just somehow “inherently” bad FT shooters no matter how much they practice (which makes zero sense), then CBJ needs to recruit players that are better FT shooters from the outset. This will absolutely cost them multiple games this season.
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I watched a guy last season who was an 85% free throw shooter for his entire high school and college career, shot at around 60-65% his final college season. He spent the entire year looking at film and shooting extra before and after practice (during which he generally made most of his shots) and it just never got better. Believe me, he worked hard. Tried everything from extra shots to taking a few days off to try and reset. He would have a couple of games where he was 5-6, followed by 2-3 others where he would barely hit 50%. His shooting from the floor didn't seem affected, pretty consistent percentage as compared to his entire career.

I am currently watching a female player who's been an 80+% shooter, struggling along at about 60% right now. Granted. she's just 5 games into the year. For her, I'm thinking that she's new to the team and school and maybe she's still adjusting to everything. I know that she's also aware of the problem and working on it.

Please, if anybody has a free throw routine that has a 100% success rate that works for everybody, be sure to contact your favorite team and coach. Maybe they've never heard of it. Maybe the idea of just practicing more free throws has never, ever been suggested to them and they don't know! For the love of God, please make contact and help these poor players and coaches out!
 

Jack jones said:
who are we going to beat in the B1G? Maybe Nebraska. Certainly no one else. When does Johnson’s set start to get hot?
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Thank you Nostradamus Hack for your usual blabbering.

You don’t have to watch or post about the team, if it offends your very delicate sensibilities.
 

Chico Gopher said:
I watched a guy last season who was an 85% free throw shooter for his entire high school and college career, shot at around 60-65% his final college season. He spent the entire year looking at film and shooting extra before and after practice (during which he generally made most of his shots) and it just never got better. Believe me, he worked hard. Tried everything from extra shots to taking a few days off to try and reset. He would have a couple of games where he was 5-6, followed by 2-3 others where he would barely hit 50%. His shooting from the floor didn't seem affected, pretty consistent percentage as compared to his entire career.

I am currently watching a female player who's been an 80+% shooter, struggling along at about 60% right now. Granted. she's just 5 games into the year. For her, I'm thinking that she's new to the team and school and maybe she's still adjusting to everything. I know that she's also aware of the problem and working on it.

Please, if anybody has a free throw routine that has a 100% success rate that works for everybody, be sure to contact your favorite team and coach. Maybe they've never heard of it. Maybe the idea of just practicing more free throws has never, ever been suggested to them and they don't know! For the love of God, please make contact and help these poor players and coaches out!
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You’ll make a lot of money as a trainer too if you got the fool proof method.
 

Wet_Blanket_Guy said:
It’s crazy he can hit 60% on treys yet struggle so much on free throws…it’s got to be 100% mental issues
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It's almost always mental. When you shoot from the field, it's in the rhythm of the game. A free throw isn't'. It's easy to think too much about it when shooting a free throw. It's a different process.

Remember Pooh Richardson? He had a good mid-range jumper but barely shot over 60% FT for the Wolves.
 

GophersInIowa said:
It's almost always mental. When you shoot from the field, it's in the rhythm of the game. A free throw isn't'. It's easy to think too much about it when shooting a free throw. It's a different process.

Remember Pooh Richardson? He had a good mid-range jumper but barely shot over 60% FT for the Wolves.
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Wonder if he teaches free throw shooting at College of the Desert.
 

Chico Gopher said:
I watched a guy last season who was an 85% free throw shooter for his entire high school and college career, shot at around 60-65% his final college season. He spent the entire year looking at film and shooting extra before and after practice (during which he generally made most of his shots) and it just never got better. Believe me, he worked hard. Tried everything from extra shots to taking a few days off to try and reset. He would have a couple of games where he was 5-6, followed by 2-3 others where he would barely hit 50%. His shooting from the floor didn't seem affected, pretty consistent percentage as compared to his entire career.

I am currently watching a female player who's been an 80+% shooter, struggling along at about 60% right now. Granted. she's just 5 games into the year. For her, I'm thinking that she's new to the team and school and maybe she's still adjusting to everything. I know that she's also aware of the problem and working on it.

Please, if anybody has a free throw routine that has a 100% success rate that works for everybody, be sure to contact your favorite team and coach. Maybe they've never heard of it. Maybe the idea of just practicing more free throws has never, ever been suggested to them and they don't know! For the love of God, please make contact and help these poor players and coaches out!
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I have no doubt there are examples like this. Wisky fans swore up and down that Ethan Happ was actually a pretty good FT shooter in practice, but just couldn’t hit them in games. But generally speaking, those are the exception and not the rule. Cooper is currently shooting 48% FT, but is a career 65% shooter. I’m guessing he will turn it around at some point. But this team is shooting 55% as a team. Either every player on this team is having some freak streak of luck, or they just need to focus on it more. The likelihood of 10 guys practicing FT shooting in excess AND being terrible is extremely low. A couple of guys, fine. But the whole freaking team?? The statistical odds of that are extremely minute.

If y’all want to ignore it and think it’ll magically turn itself around, I have some ocean front property in Kansas I’d like to sell you.
 


forever a gopher said:
I have no doubt there are examples like this. Wisky fans swore up and down that Ethan Happ was actually a pretty good FT shooter in practice, but just couldn’t hit them in games. But generally speaking, those are the exception and not the rule. Cooper is currently shooting 48% FT, but is a career 65% shooter. I’m guessing he will turn it around at some point. But this team is shooting 55% as a team. Either every player on this team is having some freak streak of luck, or they just need to focus on it more. The likelihood of 10 guys practicing FT shooting in excess AND being terrible is extremely low. A couple of guys, fine. But the whole freaking team?? The statistical odds of that are extremely minute.

If y’all want to ignore it and think it’ll magically turn itself around, I have some ocean front property in Kansas I’d like to sell you.
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If you think we are a poor FT shooting team because our guys practice shooting them less than other P5 D1 teams then you’ll sell the Ocean Front in Kansas and trade it for the Ocean Front in Oklahoma.
 


Gopherfan84 said:
If you think we are a poor FT shooting team because our guys practice shooting them less than other P5 D1 teams then you’ll sell the Ocean Front in Kansas and trade it for the Ocean Front in Oklahoma.
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Don’t worry. Cbj said by Christmas he will get to ft shooting.
 

Gopherfan84 said:
If you think we are a poor FT shooting team because our guys practice shooting them less than other P5 D1 teams then you’ll sell the Ocean Front in Kansas and trade it for the Ocean Front in Oklahoma.
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Before the UNLV game, they were 5th worst in FT shooting in the entire country. Those other teams you’re comparing them to are hitting them at (often) a much better clip. We need more practice than them.

If you think being 348 out of 352 teams in any statistical category is something that you don’t need to practice more, I don’t know what to tell you.

Whether it’s a practice thing, a mechanics thing, or a psychological thing, waiting until the holidays (as stated during the game) seems like an odd take. Rebounding has gotten better the last few games, so it seems he’s been focusing on that. Things can get better if you focus on them, but hey, just keep ignoring it and wait until it legitimately costs you games.
 

Spottedmuskie said:

Something to consider Ben
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Up close and personal you can see the Gophers are not just missing them. Their form and technique are just miserable. Many shoot them off balance, leaning back, and not bending the knees. This isn’t just a matter of being “off.” There is a lot of work to be done in the basics. Bad free throw shooting is a disaster for low end talent teams. They will probably get a little better in the season but not measurably. Too many bad habits to correct.
 

Crappie said:
Don’t worry. Cbj said by Christmas he will get to ft shooting.
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Lol where is this quote? Did he say he’d wait until Christmas before he panics and takes judgement on players FT shooting? That’s pretty sound logic because he’s letting averages work out. The initial data point on FTs is so up and down because one miss can drop it so much. It still doesn’t mean that these guys don’t shoot them in their shooting program.
 

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