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Cobra said:
For starters, becky's offense will not matchup against the Gopher offense...
Any other questions?

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Good catch! I did mean the UW offense is a nightmare for the Minnesota defense.

But since I said offense of both squads, how does the Minnesota offense match up with UWs? Can they score on UW ever single possession to keep pace?

Don't get me wrong.....I'm not saying that the UW will score every single possession. But the Minnesota offense has to go into this week expecting that. ZERO margin for error is a given for the Minnesota offense this week. They are going to have to keep up to have a chance. Let's just say, I like the UW's chances for a blowout.

Do me one favor though.....don't be a loser fanbase and brag about keeping it within two touchdowns should that happen. We've been there in this rivalry. All those single score losses by Minnesota for the past couple decades up in the Twin Cities is a picture we've seen over and over again. It gets old! Playing "close" with Wisconsin is for teams like the Dakota schools to be happy about. Not a fellow Big Ten team.
 

gopherbadgerman said:
Of course I am a Badger FB fan. And a Gopher BB fan.

But your repsonse - you really think the Gophs are going to win?
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You really think the only possibilities are a 28 point margin of victory for the Badgers and a Gophers victory?
 

Badger_inohiovalley said:
Good catch! I did mean the UW offense is a nightmare for the Minnesota defense.

But since I said offense of both squads, how does the Minnesota offense match up with UWs? Can they score on UW ever single possession to keep pace?

Don't get me wrong.....I'm not saying that the UW will score every single possession. But the Minnesota offense has to go into this week expecting that. ZERO margin for error is a given for the Minnesota offense this week. They are going to have to keep up to have a chance. Let's just say, I like the UW's chances for a blowout.

Do me one favor though.....don't be a loser fanbase and brag about keeping it within two touchdowns should that happen. We've been there in this rivalry. All those single score losses by Minnesota for the past couple decades up in the Twin Cities is a picture we've seen over and over again. It gets old! Playing "close" with Wisconsin is for teams like the Dakota schools to be happy about. Not a fellow Big Ten team.
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There is only ONE loser fan base in all of college football junior and it has nothing to do with wins and losses.
 

Badger_inohiovalley said:
Do me one favor though.....don't be a loser fanbase and brag about keeping it within two touchdowns should that happen. We've been there in this rivalry. All those single score losses by Minnesota for the past couple decades up in the Twin Cities is a picture we've seen over and over again. It gets old! Playing "close" with Wisconsin is for teams like the Dakota schools to be happy about. Not a fellow Big Ten team.
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Why would I ever do you a favor?
 



So you're not going to take me up on the bet? It's easy to boast and say that it's not even possible for the Gophers to win the game when you don't have the seeds to stand behind your idiotic statements. I'll even bump the odds down to 100-1, even though that's well within the realm of "possible".
 



MNBadgerGuy said:
I'm not going to lie, I don't appreciate the Badger fans that act as if there is zero chance Minnesota can win or keep this game competitive.

Wisconsin's defense is very much average. If Gray plays within his skill set like the last two games, Minnesota will move the ball on UW. Minnesota will need to move the ball on sustained drives, because I just don't see the UW offense scoring less than 35-40 points.

Also, even though Wisconsin's two previous B10 road games were at night, in extremely hostile environments against better opponents, UW is still playing on the road and hasn't proven this year that they can execute as well as expected.

Also, last three games in Minnesota: UW 31 UM 28; UW 41 UM 34; UW 38 UM 34
And those are games against some pretty bad Minnesota teams.

I still think UW wins pretty easily, but don't agree with the badger fans that think UW has no chance of losing this game. I see something like 42-24.
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Don't completely disagree with everything you wrote except the bolded part. 2005 wasn't a "bad" Gopher team. Other than the meltdown in the last 3 minutes vs. Wisconsin & the less than inspired effort vs. Virginia in the Music City Bowl, the Gophers beat who they were supposed to beat & lost to who they were supposed to lose. They were 4-4 in the Big Ten. No need to fire up a parade down University Ave. for a 20 year reunion, but I'd hardly call them bad.
 



ruppertflywheel said:
There is only ONE loser fan base in all of college football junior and it has nothing to do with wins and losses.
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I agree with you that the Gophers are the only loser fan base in all of college football. Absolutely.
 

Do we have to turn EVERY thread into a pissing match?
 





I was actually hoping for some football talk, but that's tough when some trolling starts.

I'm trying to think of the best plan for the gophs to beat UW.

Wisconsin's defense is incredibly average. The defensive metrics for B10 games only: 7th in Scoring Defense (22.2), 7th in Rushing Defense (175.8), 2nd in Passing Defense (156.6), and 5th in Total Defense (332.4).

I really think UW's offense comes close to scoring at will against the gophs, so Gray and the offense need to hold on to the ball with sustained drives.

Minnesota's offense in B10 games has been pretty awful. They have turned a corner the last two games, but here are the stats for conference games only: 12th in Scoring Offense (15.4), 11th in Rushing Offense (120.6), 11th in Passing Offense (165.4), 12th in Total Offense (315.8)

Not good, but the last two weeks looked a lot better. I think the gophs need to get Gray in position where he has the choice of making a high percentage pass or taking off and running. Try to pound the ball repeatedly and take a few shots deep on play action.

The gophs have a chance at an upset, weirder things have happened, but I think UW's offense is just too good for Minnesota to stick around. But weird things happen in this series, I absolutely wouldn't put money on UW at -27.5 or whatever the line is.
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
The gophs have a chance at an upset, weirder things have happened, but I think UW's offense is just too good for Minnesota to stick around. But weird things happen in this series, I absolutely wouldn't put money on UW at -27.5 or whatever the line is.
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I tend to think the same. Even given the fact that Minnesota's offense has show signs of life and that the Badger defense is vulnerable, I think its just too poor of a matchup for the Gopher defense. The combination of a physical running game with a talented, mobile quarterback is scary. For the Gophers to have a chance they are going to need a couple of flukey type plays go their way.
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
I was actually hoping for some football talk, but that's tough when some trolling starts.

I'm trying to think of the best plan for the gophs to beat UW.

Wisconsin's defense is incredibly average. The defensive metrics for B10 games only: 7th in Scoring Defense (22.2), 7th in Rushing Defense (175.8), 2nd in Passing Defense (156.6), and 5th in Total Defense (332.4).

I really think UW's offense comes close to scoring at will against the gophs, so Gray and the offense need to hold on to the ball with sustained drives.

Minnesota's offense in B10 games has been pretty awful. They have turned a corner the last two games, but here are the stats for conference games only: 12th in Scoring Offense (15.4), 11th in Rushing Offense (120.6), 11th in Passing Offense (165.4), 12th in Total Offense (315.8)

Not good, but the last two weeks looked a lot better. I think the gophs need to get Gray in position where he has the choice of making a high percentage pass or taking off and running. Try to pound the ball repeatedly and take a few shots deep on play action.

The gophs have a chance at an upset, weirder things have happened, but I think UW's offense is just too good for Minnesota to stick around. But weird things happen in this series, I absolutely wouldn't put money on UW at -27.5 or whatever the line is.
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Thank you for this post. An inteligent analysis of the upcoming football game.
 

I agree with MNbadgerguy. The reason we got pounded at Michigan and ????? early and often and not at MSU came right from the first quarter. The gophers started the Michigan and ????? games turning the ball over on their side of the field, getting penalties that set up 3rd and longs that are rarely converted. When your play script (first 10-20 plays) is used for 4-5 drives instead of for the first few, it's not looking like a good day.

My Keys:
1)HOLD ONTO THE DAMN BALL: Becky's offense isn't very mistake prone so every turnover is magnified, and Chryst does what your supposed to do after turnovers, and go for the juggular.

2)The Safety play: I wouldn't be surprised if our safeties play 20 yards back. Seriously. We would rather get killed by Monte Ball and the run game grinding all game, killing clock, than a bomb down the field to CarToon or Abbrederis and letting the rout begin. I'm ok on Royston, but Lewis HAS to be better than that garbage he's shown. They have to be able to get over and rotate to where they're supposed to be. Keep them to underneath routes.

3)Gang tackling: No one player is going to bring Ballsack or White down with arm tackles (see Coker, Marcus). We need 11 men swarming to the ball, a la, the Chicago Bears.

4)Offense needs to capitalize: We need points on the board, but more importantly we DON'T need 3 and outs. We can make a game of this if we make it a T.O.P. and Field Position game.

These are real basic things that win you or lose you football games, but also are the basic things this team has lacked. They are huge in all games, but moreso when you play against superior competition, which these F***s are. Gophers cover.
 

Bump.

Thought from anyone else? Let's get back to our opponent, shall we?
 

CrocShots said:
I agree with MNbadgerguy. The reason we got pounded at Michigan and ????? early and often and not at MSU came right from the first quarter. The gophers started the Michigan and ????? games turning the ball over on their side of the field, getting penalties that set up 3rd and longs that are rarely converted. When your play script (first 10-20 plays) is used for 4-5 drives instead of for the first few, it's not looking like a good day.

My Keys:
1)HOLD ONTO THE DAMN BALL: Becky's offense isn't very mistake prone so every turnover is magnified, and Chryst does what your supposed to do after turnovers, and go for the juggular.

2)The Safety play: I wouldn't be surprised if our safeties play 20 yards back. Seriously. We would rather get killed by Monte Ball and the run game grinding all game, killing clock, than a bomb down the field to CarToon or Abbrederis and letting the rout begin. I'm ok on Royston, but Lewis HAS to be better than that garbage he's shown. They have to be able to get over and rotate to where they're supposed to be. Keep them to underneath routes.

3)Gang tackling: No one player is going to bring Ballsack or White down with arm tackles (see Coker, Marcus). We need 11 men swarming to the ball, a la, the Chicago Bears.

4)Offense needs to capitalize: We need points on the board, but more importantly we DON'T need 3 and outs. We can make a game of this if we make it a T.O.P. and Field Position game.

These are real basic things that win you or lose you football games, but also are the basic things this team has lacked. They are huge in all games, but moreso when you play against superior competition, which these F***s are. Gophers cover.
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Nice analysis.

Ballsack is on a completely different level than Coker and if you saw what the line did to Purdue last week, it could get very ugly on Saturday for the Gophers run defense. CarToon is the model of inconsistency. He tends to disappear for drives at a time and than comes back with a big play. I would not keep the safeties twenty yards off the ball, Ballsack will torture the defense all day if they do that. He is a phenomenal back and the numbers speak for themselves.

The biggest difference between this offense and last years is the ability to score quickly. Last year's team scored a ton of points, it was just done in a different manner. I don't see how the Gophers can stop them, but I didn't think the Badgers would lose in '93 either.

Gray running the ball is the Gophers best hope on offense. The other key is if the new and improved throwing Gray shows up or the early season throwing Gray shows up. The Badgers defense does pretty well straight up against the run, but the OSU QB abused them on the ground and I would expect Gray to get his yards. The hard thing about playing the Badgers is the opposing offense is under constant pressure to score every possession because the Badgers score so many points. The Badgers defense is much maligned but it does have a lot of talent and they have plenty of guys that can make plays. The Achilles heal has been giving up the big play. It will be interesting to see if the Gophers can get some.

Should be a fun day. I always love seeing the sheer hatred and anger that the Badgers bring out in Gophers fans.
 

Badger_inohiovalley said:
How? I'm curious. What have you seen this season to make you think that this is even possible? Football is a game of matchups. Wisconsin's offense is a nightmare for the Minnesota offense.
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Why do you assume that this matchup is so lopsided? If I remember right, Coker ran for 252 and two scores against the Gophers and they still won. Just because the Badgers have a power running game doesn't mean that the matchup is lopsided. Not to mention the fact that Michigan State had the #1 Pass Defense in the land yet MarQueis and Da'Jon put up some serious numbers.
 

Gophers played bend but don't break defense against Iowa. The Badgers will move the ball and score. That is a given. The Gophers need to limit them by forcing field goal attempts instead of TDs.
 

Turnovers & a big Special Teams play....these will NEED to happen if the Gophers are to win.

Also, a little something-something up the sleeves of Kill & Limegrover.

The Gophers can't beat them straight up at this juncture....but little things can potentially swing it.

Become a better team & program each & every week.....
 

I really wish Brendan Beal could play in this game. He could be the run stuffing LB the Gophers need in a game against a power running team. I also won't be surprised to see James Manuel get more minutes in this game as he's a physical presence at Safety.

Bottom line, Gray needs to play like he did last week w/o the 2 Interceptions. If the Gophers can sustain some long drives, gang tackle all day, and get a few breaks, it could be interesting.
 

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