Not good enough for NFL but good enough for one more pay day!

[MNSpaniel]

At first I couldn't figure out why a lot of these guys are entering the portal so late in their career. Some are doing it to better their NFL options. Some are top dogs where they are at. However, I think a lot of it is because they are a fringe players in the overall picture. Probably never going to get that NFL payday but good enough to get a portal payday ... a good start in the bank for whatever comes next.

 

[#2Gopher]

Compounds the whole problem.

At first I couldn't figure out why a lot of these guys are entering the portal so late in their career. Some are doing it to better their NFL options. Some are top dogs where they are at. However, I think a lot of it is because they are a fringe players in the overall picture. Probably never going to get that NFL payday but good enough to get a portal payday ... a good start in the bank for whatever comes next.

 

[fmlizard]

The first pick of the 4th round (regardless of position) gets a 4 year contract worth a little over $1M per year and about a $850K signing bonus.

From what we're hearing about college QB salaries, if you aren't a first rounder it pays better to stay in college. Certainly on an annual basis. Plus, the 4th round QB probably will ride the NFL bench in 2024.

The trend of college teams packed with super-seniors desperate to retain their eligibility and avoid the NFL is just beginning.

 

[50PoundHead]

The first pick of the 4th round (regardless of position) gets a 4 year contract worth a little over $1M per year and about a $850K signing bonus.

From what we're hearing about college QB salaries, if you aren't a first rounder it pays better to stay in college. Certainly on an annual basis. Plus, the 4th round QB probably will ride the NFL bench in 2024.

The trend of college teams packed with super-seniors desperate to retain their eligibility and avoid the NFL is just beginning.

2nd-string QB is the best job in the world. You rarely get hit and the fans all think you are better than the starter.

 

[Izthewiz]

The first pick of the 4th round (regardless of position) gets a 4 year contract worth a little over $1M per year and about a $850K signing bonus.

From what we're hearing about college QB salaries, if you aren't a first rounder it pays better to stay in college. Certainly on an annual basis. Plus, the 4th round QB probably will ride the NFL bench in 2024.

The trend of college teams packed with super-seniors desperate to retain their eligibility and avoid the NFL is just beginning.

And I assume we will eventually see fringe NFL players wanting to return to college and request additional eligibility. If Josh Dobbs (making league minimum $1.3M) wanted to return to college for additional classes…I assume a college would be willing to match and throw in free education. There is no real governing system in college football anymore.

 

[MplsGopher]

Practically .... if you're getting a decent payday I would think that means you have to be transferring to a pretty decent P5 program, as the likely starter.

And if you're good enough to do that, why wouldn't you be good enough for the NFL?


But I suppose you're correct overall.

If a school like Texas A&M is willing to throw $50k at you to stay for a 5th year, instead of give it a shot as an undrafted free agent .... no idea what you make for trying to do that and let's say not making the team or practice squad anywhere?

 

[fmlizard]

And I assume we will eventually see fringe NFL players wanting to return to college and request additional eligibility. If Josh Dobbs (making league minimum $1.3M) wanted to return to college for additional classes…I assume a college would be willing to match and throw in free education. There is no real governing system in college football anymore.

Interesting thought. Hadn’t considered this before but it’s certainly possible. Dobbs would instantly be the #1 portal QB and he could spend 4-6 years there in an intensive Aerospace Engineering doctoral program. Would at least double his salary and prepare for post-football life.

 

[MplsGopher]

And I assume we will eventually see fringe NFL players wanting to return to college and request additional eligibility. If Josh Dobbs (making league minimum $1.3M) wanted to return to college for additional classes…I assume a college would be willing to match and throw in free education. There is no real governing system in college football anymore.

There you go, great example.

Dobbs is brilliant and easily could pursue a PhD in Aerospace Engineering. (The U has one of the best programs, by the way .....)

 

[goldenboy]

There you go, great example.

Dobbs is brilliant and easily could pursue a PhD in Aerospace Engineering. (The U has one of the best programs, by the way .....)

So five years to play four (or 6 or 7 years to play 5, or whatever cluster the pandemic caused) is no longer a thing?

 

[MplsGopher]

So five years to play four (or 6 or 7 years to play 5, or whatever cluster the pandemic caused) is no longer a thing?

It's five calendar years to play four seasons. That is still the rule.

But waivers can be granted by the "Committee for Player Reinstatement" (or something like that) for basically any reason they choose.


In this case .... actually, he does have a valid case. I do admit that.

If he had been a redshirt in 2019, he could still play in 2024.

He was one game over in 2019, and you can say that the one game was Alabama putting him out there for two snaps to end the game in which his brother went down. That's basically what he's saying to the NCAA.

I'm actually OK with it, in that case.

 

[MplsGopher]

What doesn't square with this, however, is ......

why did he opt-out of Maryland's bowl game, then???


I know guys opt out for NFL. I know guys opt out because they're leaving the program. I know guys opt out because they're hurt or not very healthy.


Have never heard of a guy who is planning to come back, not go to the NFL, and is healthy ..... who opted out???

 

[denguegopher]

2nd-string QB is the best job in the world. You rarely get hit and the fans all think you are better than the starter.

Only in the pros, where they get paid and maybe in college if your education is paid for. In high school it SUCKS!

 

[short ornery norwegian]

free enterprise at work.

we are, for the most part, a capitalistic society. D1 college athletes generate millions of dollars in revenue for their schools through ticket sales, merchandise and TV deals. until recently, they were not allowed to share in that revenue - at least not legally. now, athletes are able to market their skills and be compensated.

if coaches can sign multi-year, multi-million dollar deals, then the athletes who make it all possible should be able to share in the proceeds.

and the NCAA could have prevented all of this by allowing athletes to receive direct compensation - but they refused, opening the door for NIL and the current state of affairs.

 

[WAGopher]

free enterprise at work.

we are, for the most part, a capitalistic society. D1 college athletes generate millions of dollars in revenue for their schools through ticket sales, merchandise and TV deals. until recently, they were not allowed to share in that revenue - at least not legally. now, athletes are able to market their skills and be compensated.

if coaches can sign multi-year, multi-million dollar deals, then the athletes who make it all possible should be able to share in the proceeds.

and the NCAA could have prevented all of this by allowing athletes to receive direct compensation - but they refused, opening the door for NIL and the current state of affairs.

That sounds more socialism than capitalism. Why would a good capitalist want to pay for the free labor they have now? Unions, profit sharing, and wage fairness are all socialist ideals.

 

[50PoundHead]

Only in the pros, where they get paid and maybe in college if your education is paid for. In high school it SUCKS!

That's why I ran cross-country.

 

[50PoundHead]

That sounds more socialism than capitalism. Why would a good capitalist want to pay for the free labor they have now? Unions, profit sharing, and wage fairness are all socialist ideals.

If that were the case, you wouldn't see coaches getting the salaries they are getting. Saban makes over $10 MM per year. Divide that by 85 scholarships and you come out with just over $117,000 per player. I think Saban is a great coach and contributes a great share to the on-field product, but who is getting hit?

I think the thing with NIL and the portal is that we are now just a baby step away from top-tier college football becoming semi-professional and when that happens, the value of the television contracts will likely go through the roof. As a result, there will likely be contract stipulations between players, coaches, colleges, and maybe even the NFL governing the operation.

For the record, I'm pretty much against all of it.

 

[btowngopher]

And I assume we will eventually see fringe NFL players wanting to return to college and request additional eligibility. If Josh Dobbs (making league minimum $1.3M) wanted to return to college for additional classes…I assume a college would be willing to match and throw in free education. There is no real governing system in college football anymore.

Don’t you lose your eligibility once you declare for the draft?

 

[PMWinSTP]

Only in the pros, where they get paid and maybe in college if your education is paid for. In high school it SUCKS!

You still get to say you played QB in high school many ears later...