Non-conference game vs. San Francisco

[Spaulding!No!]

Some players were embarrassed at last years results and left.

 

[Gophers_4life]

I do respect the logic and conventional-ish wisdom in this post, and it very well may be reality. However, I think it's too convenient an excuse.

P6s like Temple or Georgia Tech (among others) are likely also in that Quad 2/3 limboland - they're not "quality" P6s, but they're at least recognizable as having successful pasts. Is Minnesota afraid to schedule teams like that because they're Quad 3 at Williams, or are they just scared of losing, period? My guess is the latter, but feel free to disagree.

I don't think American Athletic Conference (Temple), or the A10 for that matter, qualify as "P6".

That is the P5 from football plus the Big East.


Quads is some other thing, which I'm not sure how it is determined.

 

[formerlybis]

I don't think American Athletic Conference (Temple), or the A10 for that matter, qualify as "P6".

That is the P5 from football plus the Big East.


Quads is some other thing, which I'm not sure how it is determined.

You are correct about the AAC, though t-rank includes them in the "high major" category (the A10 is not included, fwiw). With Houston, Cincy, and UCF moving over to the B12 soon, the AAC may get dropped from that categorization.

For quads, and from memory:

quad 1:
home game against a top 30
neutral against a top 50
away against a top 75

quad 2:
home against top 75, not top 30
neutral against top 100, not top 50
away against top 135, not top 75

quad 3 and 4, not sure.

 

[tjgopher]

I do respect the logic and conventional-ish wisdom in this post, and it very well may be reality. However, I think it's too convenient an excuse.

P6s like Temple or Georgia Tech (among others) are likely also in that Quad 2/3 limboland - they're not "quality" P6s, but they're at least recognizable as having successful pasts. Is Minnesota afraid to schedule teams like that because they're Quad 3 at Williams, or are they just scared of losing, period? My guess is the latter, but feel free to disagree.

I guess we'll have to see how what quality P6 home opponents Georgia Tech is able to schedule. Temple is not a P6 team.

Usually, it works that inferior P6 opponents are able to schedule fellow inferior P6 opponents, including Minnesota over the years on occasion. Home-and-homes with USC, Utah, Mississippi State and even non P6 teams like Richmond and St. Joe's. But, it has been awhile since a top shelf P6 team has visited Williams Arena on its own (non Big Ten/ACC Challenge or Gavitt game). Maybe Arkansas, but even the Hogs were middling when that was scheduled.

 

[formerlybis]

I guess we'll have to see how what quality P6 home opponents Georgia Tech is able to schedule. Temple is not a P6 team.

You get the point, though. Sub Oregon State or Butler or BC if you will, There's enough of them out there.

 

[tjgopher]

You get the point, though. Sub Oregon State or Butler or BC if you will, There's enough of them out there.

Yes, as I said, they can definitely schedule middle to lower end P6 teams (and they have).

My point was "quality" P6 teams are almost certainly going to pass on scheduling a game at Williams Arena for 2023-24.

 

[Spaulding!No!]

How’d we get here?

 

[formerlybis]

Yes, as I said, they can definitely schedule middle to lower end P6 teams (and they have).

My point was "quality" P6 teams are almost certainly going to pass on scheduling a game at Williams Arena for 2023-24.

But they have not scheduled any P6s, home away, or neutral - at least not yet. No quad 1s. San Fran might - might - be quad 2. Look at the B1G schedule thread - there are 46 of these P6 games, at least, spread among the 13 other B1G schools, all of whom have at least one. It’s really shameful, IMO.

 

[Rockraven]

But they have not scheduled any P6s, home away, or neutral - at least not yet. No quad 1s. San Fran might - might - be quad 2. Look at the B1G schedule thread - there are 46 of these P6 games, at least, spread among the 13 other B1G schools, all of whom have at least one. It’s really shameful, IMO.

Wallowing in minutia. The B1G schedule is plenty this year. You think the Gophers get stomped by “quality” P6 so you can pound another nail in CBJ’s coaching coffin. Hate that diversity.

 

[howeda7]

But they have not scheduled any P6s, home away, or neutral - at least not yet.

I don't believe it has ever been done before. At least not in decades. It will be a new low if it comes to pass.

 

[tjgopher]

But they have not scheduled any P6s, home away, or neutral - at least not yet. No quad 1s. San Fran might - might - be quad 2. Look at the B1G schedule thread - there are 46 of these P6 games, at least, spread among the 13 other B1G schools, all of whom have at least one. It’s really shameful, IMO.

I'm not sure what that has to do with my ONLY point that there are not going to be any quality P6 teams visiting Williams Arena. That is all I ever said.

I agree, the Gophers should schedule some P6 games. It would be dumb if they don't. I'm not sure why you seem to think I'm arguing for no P6 games. I am not in favor of that in any way.

 

[Spaulding!No!]

Coyle blew it and is 100% in damage control.

 

[Rockraven]

Coyle blew it and is 100% in damage control.

Because he didn’t make you and Howdy happy?

 

[bleedsmaroonandgold]

Because he didn’t make you and Howdy happy?

I don't care about Spaulding or Howdy's happiness as much as I do about not having back-to-back last place finishes. That said, I think the two things are related.

 

[Rockraven]

I don't care about Spaulding or Howdy's happiness as much as I do about not having back-to-back last place finishes. That said, I think the two things are related.

I disagree.