No. 1 recruit AJ Dybantsa is expected to land an NIL package north of $3M and could get as high as $4M. BYU prepared to pay “4 to $4.5M"

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Is he a Mormon or would he be required to convert to collect the NIL dough?
 

worth mentioning - assuming the House settlement is approved, then starting next year, schools will be directly paying revenue sharing to athletes. that will change the equation.

under the proposed agreement, a school like MN will be able to pay out something like $22-million in revenue sharing.

yet to be determined is whether Title IX requires it to be shared evenly between men and women. if it is based on revenue generated, then the bulk of the money will to go football and men's basketball, with women's basketball getting some and at schools like MN, some going to men's and women's hockey.

But, my point (and yes, it takes me a while to get there) is that for a school like MN that is not rolling in NIL, this will mean more direct money for athletes. If Men's hoops winds up getting $3, $4 or $5-million in revenue sharing, that is a lot more than MN is currently paying in NIL.
 

Chico Gopher said:
Good honest answer! I personally would have a tough time getting invested or interested in a team with mercenaries, who don't care at all about the state, the fans, educational opportunities, or a little pride in being a Gopher; just so I get paid.

Of course, it's a little different if you transfer in mainly because you want to be in Minnesota, regardless of $$. It would be nice to have a winning team, but tough to have a connection with a constant flow of highly paid mercenaries. Feels like buying a trophy.

I will admit that with the other Minn. sports teams, I tend to root and connect with the players that have come up through the system or been traded for much more than the free agents that might come through.

Thanks for the reply!
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People don't like to hear this, but even in the pre-NIL era a significant proportion of college athletes didn't care at all about the state, the fans, and all that other school pride. For most guys it is either a way to keep playing a sport you love competitively, a way to pay for school, or a means to get to the professional level.
 

WoodburyTim said:
You are using business calculations. This isn’t a business like a traditional business. In a traditional business, every school would simply slash off the vast majority of their Athletic Departments that lose large amounts of money. If that is what you are proposing then that is different discussion. The numbers are widely available, most athletic departments don’t make money including ours from year to year.

But again if what you are saying is that the revenue sports guys shouldn’t have to share with everyone else, than that is legitimate argument to make.
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Here's a simpler argument. The new BIG TV agreement increased revenues substantially for each school. This is new money. Would you agree that the new money is adequate to fund player compensation?

If most schools were breaking even -- or close -- before, let's assign the new money properly before it disappears for new bureacratic expenses.
 
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Gophers1992 said:
People don't like to hear this, but even in the pre-NIL era a significant proportion of college athletes didn't care at all about the state, the fans, and all that other school pride. For most guys it is either a way to keep playing a sport you love competitively, a way to pay for school, or a means to get to the professional level.
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Not going to say there are not cases where what you say is true. But college sports is really unique. When a guy arrives on campus and starts to work with his teammates there is an inevitable bonding into something much bigger than the individual for the vast majority of players.
 


Dakota2 said:
Here's a simpler argument. The new BIG TV agreement increased revenues substantially for each school. This is new money. Would you agree that the new money is adequate to fund player compensation?

If most schools were breaking even -- or close -- before, let's assign the new money properly before it disappears for new bureacratic expenses.
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I don’t pretend to know all the ins and outs of the finances of each school. I only know what I read. But what I have seen doesn’t seem to all of a sudden make each school 22 million more in profit(not revenue).

Even some of the SEC schools are wondering how they can pay athletes the 22 mill that the proposed settlement is saying. Again if it means eliminating the non-revenue sports(and not asking tax payers to fund paying players or through student fees) then that is argument to be made.
 

WoodburyTim said:
I don’t pretend to know all the ins and outs of the finances of each school. I only know what I read. But what I have seen doesn’t seem to all of a sudden make each school 22 million more in profit(not revenue).

Even some of the SEC schools are wondering how they can pay athletes the 22 mill that the proposed settlement is saying. Again if it means eliminating the non-revenue sports(and not asking tax payers to fund paying players or through student fees) then that is argument to be
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I used to be a CPA and got a chance to see the College Football industry numbers a few years back. I think it was 2018, anyhow it was right on the heels of NIL.

The industry lost over a billion dollars that year.

What’s more, a significant portion of the Revenue were from “Donor fees,” which sounds like donations. However, the definition was fees charged to students for sports.

So not only was FBS losing a substantial amount, they were also increasing the cost of College.

Memory is fading a bit, but between 25-28 schools in FBS made money. The Gophers were at the bottom of that pool. I know in 2010 it was as low as 12 schools of the 120 (and recall that includes fees charged to students).

At the time, The NCAA men’s tournament was the only profitable tournament.

There is certainly money being made, but the Universities were not making it.
 

atsgopher said:
I used to be a CPA and got a chance to see the College Football industry numbers a few years back. I think it was 2018, anyhow it was right on the heels of NIL.

The industry lost over a billion dollars that year.

What’s more, a significant portion of the Revenue were from “Donor fees,” which sounds like donations. However, the definition was fees charged to students for sports.

So not only was FBS losing a substantial amount, they were also increasing the cost of College.

Memory is fading a bit, but between 25-28 schools in FBS made money. The Gophers were at the bottom of that pool. I know in 2010 it was as low as 12 schools of the 120 (and recall that includes fees charged to students).

At the time, The NCAA men’s tournament was the only profitable tournament.

There is certainly money being made, but the Universities were not making it.
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You are an absolutely right but Stewart Mandell and Dennis Dodd made a crusade of making people think, without any financial backup, that there was a bonanza of money being kept from players. And sadly it has become truth(perception of truth). It will eventually lead to the destruction of non-revenue sports at the power 5 level. Sad too because a lot of kids got to get an education that normally wouldn’t have.
 




This thread makes me ill.
 



I'm not sure there's enough money out there to get me to attend BYU.
 





WoodburyTim said:
You are an absolutely right but Stewart Mandell and Dennis Dodd made a crusade of making people think, without any financial backup, that there was a bonanza of money being kept from players. And sadly it has become truth(perception of truth). It will eventually lead to the destruction of non-revenue sports at the power 5 level. Sad too because a lot of kids got to get an education that normally wouldn’t have.
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There is of course a lot of money being kept from the players because of priorities. The players had no standing in priorities while increased revenues are sunk into expanding bureacracies.
 

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