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Not sure if he'll get drafted, but I'm hoping he will make a team -- Brady Weeks -- if any team is looking for a LS, he'll be on their short list. Number 1 rated snapper when he came out of high school, and so far he's nailed it.

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I think teams keep tabs on specialists and will snatch players as UDFA. He will be on someone's list. The only thing is LS in the Pros seem to move around. Former Vikings Long Snapper Mike Morris played for nine teams between 1983 to 1999. His longest stint was with the Vikings (1991-1999).
 


Pretty cool to see more gophers making it to the league, list below. I would think Schmitz and Mo should get drafted next year as well, any others that might have a shot?
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Will four Gophers get drafted this year? This is a stretch. Daniel Faalelle and Boye Mafe for sure. It will be sweet if they are both 1st Rounders. They will be one of the 259 players lucky enough to have their names called.

UDFA may be the hot ticket into the Pros for others.

We wish Baise Andries, Esezi Otomeweo, Ko Kieft, Jack Gibbons, Brady Weeks, Nyles Pinckney, Micah Dew-Treadway, and Coney Durr good luck!

Fewer than 2 % of college football players make it into the Pros. It will be quite an accomplishment for all the guys who make it.
 


Will four Gophers get drafted this year? This is a stretch. Daniel Faalelle and Boye Mafe for sure. It will be sweet if they are both 1st Rounders. They will be one of the 259 players lucky enough to have their names called.

UDFA may be the hot ticket into the Pros for others.

We wish Baise Andries, Esezi Otomeweo, Ko Kieft, Jack Gibbons, Brady Weeks, Nyles Pinckney, Micah Dew-Treadway, and Coney Durr good luck!

Fewer than 2 % of college football players make it into the Pros. It will be quite an accomplishment for all the guys who make it.
Should have clarified, I was meaning as of late, but would also counter and say that Otomewo will definitely get drafted. Blaise is probably next best odds but unless he impresses at his pro day I think he will probably be an UDFA. I would think Kieft has an outside shot as well, but have no clue how NFL teams value a guy who is basically going to strictly be a blocking TE.
 


Should have clarified, I was meaning as of late, but would also counter and say that Otomewo will definitely get drafted. Blaise is probably next best odds but unless he impresses at his pro day I think he will probably be an UDFA. I would think Kieft has an outside shot as well, but have no clue how NFL teams value a guy who is basically going to strictly be a blocking TE.
I'm basically in the same place. Maye and Faalele are locks and both will be off the board by the second day (maybe even first day). Otomewo's inability to show out at the combine probably set him back a bit, but you can't teach size and he certainly flashed potential at stretches in his college career.

Pro day will be huge for Andries, but he has the size and ran well at the combine. Add to that the fact that he has played across the line during his college career and that makes him an interesting prospect. Curious why he (and the other Gophers) didn't lift at the combine.

Kieft's blocking alone is going to draw attention. Pro football has all kinds of offensive sets and a number of teams value a tight end who is basically an undersized OT. If Kieft runs well at his pro day and shows a decent measure of agility and pass-catching ability, he's going to be in someone's camp. At the very least, he's going to be a highly-sought UDFA.
 


We have 4 locks to get drafted… Kieft, Gibbons, Pinckney, and Durr are borderline 6/7 or UDFA.
I think Kieft is a great player but unfortunatley he doesn't fit some of the modern NFL offenses
 




I think Kieft is a sleeper to get drafted in the late rounds, like 7th. He graded out so well at times this year.......
 


All he needs is to be a great fit with one team in order to get drafted.
I agree. As I referenced in my post above, pro teams have so many different offensive sets that require a lot of different skill sets. If Kieft grades out high enough physically and shows enough pass-catching ability, he's going to get a shot. I am curious to see how his pro day goes. He runs in the 4.8 range and he might sneak into the 7th round. The guy is a devastating blocker.
 

Pretty cool to see more gophers making it to the league, list below. I would think Schmitz and Mo should get drafted next year as well, any others that might have a shot?
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If Mafe and Faalele go in the first 2 rounds, we'll have seen as many Gophers go in the first 2 rounds in the past 3 drafts as there were in the previous 28 drafts.
 





I'll wager a beverage of choice against Kieft getting drafted.
 

I disagree. I think he's a perfect 3rd TE/H-Back type player.
I agree but some teams arent interested in carrying a tight end specifically for blocking. A lot of teams run mostly 11 personal with a vertical threat at TE like McVay
 

I agree but some teams arent interested in carrying a tight end specifically for blocking. A lot of teams run mostly 11 personal with a vertical threat at TE like McVay
But it only takes one team to value someone like Kieft. Kieft--at least right now--doesn't project as an every down player at the next level. That doesn't mean that there wouldn't a place for him in some teams' plans. It seems that every team in the league has a set of plays they run when "they are down a score and the wind is blowing East to West at more than 10 miles per hour and the sky is slightly overcast." Point is, teams have become so specialized in their usage of personnel that a guy--using the Liam Neeson parlance--with a certain set of skills can find a place on the field.

Pro day will be huge for Kieft. He shows he can run well and that would find a place for him on special teams at the very least at the next level. It's obvious he is not afraid of contact.
 
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But it only takes one team to value someone like Kieft. Kieft--at least right now--doesn't project as an every down player at the next level. That doesn't mean that there wouldn't a place for him in some teams' plans. It seems that every team in the league has a set of plays they rub when "they are down a score and the wind is blowing East to West at more than 10 miles per hour and the sky is slightly overcast." Point is, teams have become so specialized in their usage of personnel that a guy--using the Liam Neeson parlance--with a certain set of skills can find a place on the field.

Pro day will be huge for Kieft. He shows he can run well and that would find a place for him on special teams at the very least at the next level. It's obvious he is not afraid of contact.

Even though he doesn't have flashy numbers, I think he's shown solid hands. He's made some difficult catches. I remember a couple nice sideline catches. Not saying he's going to be a pass catching TE but I think he will be a solid all-around TE.
 

Marcedes lewis career stats at UCLA, 126 receptions 1500 yards 21 TDS
Ko Kieft, 12 receptions 166 rec yards 2 TDS

Not really a comparison
We're not comparing college stats, though. You said you don't see Kieft fitting into an NFL modern offense. Marcedes Lewis has turned into a primarily blocking Tight End, showing that there is still very much a need for a good blocking tight end on the roster.
 


Even though he doesn't have flashy numbers, I think he's shown solid hands. He's made some difficult catches. I remember a couple nice sideline catches. Not saying he's going to be a pass catching TE but I think he will be a solid all-around TE.
Agree. I think Kieft has shown that he can catch the ball. It's not what he's known for, but his role in the Gopher offense was all about blocking and he did it extremely well. Pro scouts are really good at discerning what a guy can and can't do presently and whether they have the ability to grow in areas where they haven't been called upon to contribute. I'm not saying Kieft will be drafted, but his blocking is a calling card that will pique the interest of more than one pro team. That should at least get him in a camp where he can show that he's not a one-note guy.
 



No takers?
The odds are firmly against him getting drafted (maybe 10%?), so it's a bad bet. But I definitely think he'll sign as an UDFA. Chances of making a practice squad I'd put maybe at like 25 - 35%. Dude was not just OK at the things he did...he was absolutely elite (I know, I know). There are plenty of TEs in the NFL who primarily block. Nick Boyle is probably the best known, but most teams have a guy like that. People just don't know who they are because they rarely catch a pass. In addition to being dominant run blockers in short yardage and goal line situations, they're very useful on ST's like punt, KO return, and FG. Kieft could definitely become a guy like that. He was probably the best run blocking TE in the country the past two years. That's a marketable skill.
 

I mean, I get it from the standpoint of playing the percentages but it does get pretty ridiculous at times.

I always come back to the MBIII/Maroney example. Both were very good college backs but of the two Barber was the better all around RB. Maroney had breakaway speed, so Maroney goes in the first round and Barber goes in the 4th.

I was not surprised at all that Barber had the much better pro career.
The 40 is a stupid drill because the difference between a 4.3 and a 4.5 is 2-3 steps over 40 yards straight line.

so that 2-3 steps comes into play on maybe a dozen plays over the course of a season. Whereas change of direction comes into play on literally every play. Stuff like that. I don’t get the 40 obsession. I think it’s because fast is cool. And because it’s a really easy metric for people to think about.
 

The 40 is a stupid drill because the difference between a 4.3 and a 4.5 is 2-3 steps over 40 yards straight line.

so that 2-3 steps comes into play on maybe a dozen plays over the course of a season. Whereas change of direction comes into play on literally every play. Stuff like that. I don’t get the 40 obsession. I think it’s because fast is cool. And because it’s a really easy metric for people to think about.
Game speed is different than straight 40 speed. Other metrics do come into play in how players may be rated. The whole body of work in college is going to be dissected and analyzed.

Forty times does get the attention of scouts. That may be the differentiator in a deep draft that elevates a prospect's draft status as in the case of Boye Mafe. His combined efforts in the Senior Bowl and the NFL Combine do matter. Running a 4.53/40 is the cherry topping.
 

Even though he doesn't have flashy numbers, I think he's shown solid hands. He's made some difficult catches. I remember a couple nice sideline catches. Not saying he's going to be a pass catching TE but I think he will be a solid all-around TE.
I absolutely agree. His hands are underrated, and he made multiple difficult catches over the last few years. I think whatever NFL team signs him will have more of an all around TE than they expected.
 

The 40 is a stupid drill because the difference between a 4.3 and a 4.5 is 2-3 steps over 40 yards straight line.

so that 2-3 steps comes into play on maybe a dozen plays over the course of a season. Whereas change of direction comes into play on literally every play. Stuff like that. I don’t get the 40 obsession. I think it’s because fast is cool. And because it’s a really easy metric for people to think about.
Shuttle is underrated.
 

I absolutely agree. His hands are underrated, and he made multiple difficult catches over the last few years. I think whatever NFL team signs him will have more of an all around TE than they expected.
Really? Multiple difficult catches?
He had 12 receptions TOTAL over his Gopher career.
 




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