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[short ornery norwegian]

on the "athletes as employees" front - (warning - includes politics) - the NLRB lawyer who supported the athletes as employees idea has been fired by the new President. draw your own conclusions about what this means.

from Sportico:

Jennifer Abruzzo, the general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board, was dismissed Tuesday by President Donald Trump as part of an anticipated shake-up of the federal agency responsible for overseeing the rights of private-sector employees.

Abruzzo’s tenure as the NLRB’s top in-house lawyer began in July 2021, just weeks after the NCAA adopted its interim NIL policy, and was defined by her influential role in shaping the national conversation on college athlete rights.

Two months after taking office, Abruzzo issued a landmark memorandum, asserting that college athletes should be recognized as employees under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA). While the NLRB’s jurisdiction is limited to the private sector, Abruzzo’s memo highlighted the concept of a “joint employer” theory of liability, which could potentially hold the NCAA and athletic conferences accountable for unfair labor practices by schools.

 

[GopherGrit]

Tell it to the judge (ok, jury).

Once the amateurism argument died as imperative to the economic model the antitrust onslaught was only matter of time. I think you’re being a little purposefully obtuse or maybe optimistic, but I also once held out hope they could hold it together. Maybe friendly judges or congress can help out the NCAA, schools. We’ll see. It’s going to be an interesting year or two.

Congress should pass a new law, agreed.

 

[GopherGrit]

I maybe overstated it but the media + ncaa distributions + conference bowl payout + conference gate sharing + bulk of tix + game day services + licensing or donations directly linked to the revenue sports has to be a pretty high percentage. Coyle IIRC said football alone drove about 80% of revenue but I might be out of my gourd. My memory ain’t what it used to be.

Bold: I'm not aware of the Big Ten, or any college conference for that matter, collecting a percentage of gate revenues from all member schools to then divide out evenly amongst all members.

 

[GopherGrit]

on the "athletes as employees" front - (warning - includes politics) - the NLRB lawyer who supported the athletes as employees idea has been fired by the new President. draw your own conclusions about what this means.

from Sportico:

Jennifer Abruzzo, the general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board, was dismissed Tuesday by President Donald Trump as part of an anticipated shake-up of the federal agency responsible for overseeing the rights of private-sector employees.

Abruzzo’s tenure as the NLRB’s top in-house lawyer began in July 2021, just weeks after the NCAA adopted its interim NIL policy, and was defined by her influential role in shaping the national conversation on college athlete rights.

Two months after taking office, Abruzzo issued a landmark memorandum, asserting that college athletes should be recognized as employees under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA). While the NLRB’s jurisdiction is limited to the private sector, Abruzzo’s memo highlighted the concept of a “joint employer” theory of liability, which could potentially hold the NCAA and athletic conferences accountable for unfair labor practices by schools.

Isn't this the person who caused the NLRB to recognize the Dartmouth basketball team petition to be employees of the school?

 

[Pompous Elitist]

Bold: I'm not aware of the Big Ten, or any college conference for that matter, collecting a percentage of gate revenues from all member schools to then divide out evenly amongst all members.

How the Big Ten's Unique Football Gate Revenue Sharing Works

When it comes to football gate revenues, the Big Ten Conference takes from the rich to give to the poor.

www.athleticbusiness.com

 

[GopherGrit]

How the Big Ten's Unique Football Gate Revenue Sharing Works

When it comes to football gate revenues, the Big Ten Conference takes from the rich to give to the poor.

www.athleticbusiness.com

This is from 2013. My wild guess is that this is no longer done with the new TV deals.

 

[Pompous Elitist]

This is from 2013. My wild guess is that this is no longer done with the new TV deals.

I don’t see why it would be any different now but nobody has asked. TV money, bowl revenues also subject to socialistic redistribution which is a good thing for MN.

Maybe Coyle knows.

 

[Wally]

Maybe friendly judges or congress can help out the NCAA, schools.

Maybe an agreement comes out where everyone wins, schools and students.

I prefer the players be employees as there is no logical way around it anymore and it's bad for the players to not be employees.

 

[GopherGrit]

I don’t see why it would be any different now but nobody has asked. TV money, bowl revenues also subject to socialistic redistribution which is a good thing for MN.

Maybe Coyle knows.

My thinking is that there would be no point now, with how much TV revenue dominates everything and every conference member (except for Oregon and Washington, for a little while) gets an even split of that.

 

[GopherGrit]

Maybe an agreement comes out where everyone wins, schools and students.

I prefer the players be employees as there is no logical way around it anymore and it's bad for the players to not be employees.

It's not bad for student-athletes to not be employees of the school any more than it's bad that club participants aren't employees of the school.

 

[Pompous Elitist]

My thinking is that there would be no point now, with how much TV revenue dominates everything and every conference member (except for Oregon and Washington, for a little while) gets an even split of that.

There will never be enough. Witness Petitti engaging private capital for god knows what. Some people will never, ever be satisfied. It’s a game, the thrill of the chase.

 

[GopherGrit]

There will never be enough. Witness Petitti engaging private capital for god knows what. Some people will never, ever be satisfied. It’s a game, the thrill of the chase.

Agree. I just don't think Mich, Ohio State, and Penn State are kicking in a bit extra to share their gate with Minnesota, NW, Indiana, anymore.

Very minor detail

 

[Pompous Elitist]

Agree. I just don't think Mich, Ohio State, and Penn State are kicking in a bit extra to share their gate with Minnesota, NW, Indiana, anymore.

Very minor detail

That’s been the concern, they will buy their way out of the Big Ten and form a super league. Financially it probably makes sense. For any number of other reasons it doesn’t. Head versus heart.