NCAA Bracketology

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thatjanelpick said:
Honestly, they've done nothing to deserve to be in
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I know but it's annoying that they can't even take advantage of the weakest bubble ever and make the NCAA Tournament because (unless they win tomorrow or make a big run in the Big Ten Tournament) of their inability to compete against top teams in their confererence at the same level as 1-16 Penn State or 1-16 Houston in the Big 12 (in terms of those teams having more Quad 1 wins this year and more ranked wins than the Gophers have in 5+ years). But I should just accept that Minnesota will never be any good at basketball just like how the Vikings will probably never win a Super Bowl.
 

Star City said:
I know but it's annoying that they can't even take advantage of the weakest bubble ever and make the NCAA Tournament because (unless they win tomorrow or make a big run in the Big Ten Tournament) of their inability to compete against top teams in their confererence at the same level as 1-16 Penn State or 1-16 Houston in the Big 12 (in terms of those teams having more Quad 1 wins this year and more ranked wins than the Gophers have in 5+ years). But I should just accept that Minnesota will never be any good at basketball just like how the Vikings will probably never win a Super Bowl.
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You must be quite young to not remember the run Lindsey Whalen and crew had. We have been good at womens basketball.
 

Sunday March 2 WBB bracketology from herhoopstats has the Gophers in the Big Dance as an 11-seed playing a First-Four game against Iowa State. Perhaps a fitting matchup, because unless Iowa State beats Kansas State today (ISU has a good chance today), ISU and the Gophers will both end the regular season with 0 Quad 1 wins.
 


March 3 WBB bracketology by ESPN and herhoopstats. They agree on all 13 BIG teams, except Indiana.

USC 1
UCLA 1
OSU 5
MD 5
MSU 6
Iowa 6
Michigan 7
Illinois 8
Oregon 10
IU 10/8 (ESPN/hhs)
Nebraska 10
Minnesota 11 (last 4 in)
Washington 11(last 4 in)
 


BigTenGuy said:
March 3 WBB bracketology by ESPN and herhoopstats. They agree on all 13 BIG teams, except Indiana.

USC 1
UCLA 1
OSU 5
MD 5
MSU 6
Iowa 6
Michigan 7
Illinois 8
Oregon 10
IU 10/8 (ESPN/hhs)
Nebraska 10
Minnesota 11 (last 4 in)
Washington 11(last 4 in)
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As of this am, MN is the last team in. First 4 out included Arizona and Virginia Tech - both lost.
 









EaganGopher22 said:
Indiana won first game, if they continue, they will push MN out.
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I'm not sure I understand this thinking. Indiana is comfortably ahead of Minnesota in terms of getting in. The teams Minnesota needs to worry about are the teams that are currently behind them. Virginia Tech, Stanford and Arizona lost, which is good news for the Gophers. We'll see what happens with Marquette and St. Joseph's.
 



thatjanelpick said:
I'm not sure I understand this thinking. Indiana is comfortably ahead of Minnesota in terms of getting in. The teams Minnesota needs to worry about are the teams that are currently behind them. Virginia Tech, Stanford and Arizona lost, which is good news for the Gophers. We'll see what happens with Marquette and St. Joseph's.
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misunderstood the comment earlier about Indiana. Didn't realize IU was Indiana. So stand corrected.
 


Mark Schindler of The Athletic:

Speaking of the rest of the bubble, the last two days were unconvincing for any movement. Washington was the only team that could take the reins and climb with a win over Oregon and a close game against Michigan. However, that was more to ensure the Huskies getting a place in the First Four, in my view.

Based on the past few weeks of play, Washington seems to have a better case than Oregon, but the Ducks have a slightly better all-around resume with more impressive nonconference wins, notably against Baylor. If the selection committee leans heavily toward recency, I could see Tina Langley’s squad as a No. 10 seed, but I wouldn’t bank on it.

• As for the rest of the Big Ten, Minnesota seems to have officially fallen out after losing to Washington in the first round of the Big Ten tournament. Indiana was already fairly safe, and Nebraska beating Illinois was a huge boost as well. The next few days will be key for the Big Ten’s seeding, but I wouldn’t expect a team outside of Washington to make it out of the bubble or dip into it.
 

The Gophers didn’t look like or play like a NCAA tournament team the last month of the season which probably torpedoed their season. After the west coast trip they didn’t play or look very confidently. Would like to know the reasons for the collapse, probably just wore down. Still think this team had the talent to beat Michigan, Iowa, Oregon and Washington at home and went 0-4. But hey they are in line for top seed in the WBIT. Even considering the injuries to Braun and Woodson and getting to 20 wins, I still think this team underperformed.
 

Gopher68 said:
Minnesota replaced by Virginia Tech as last team in.
www.espn.com

Women's Bracketology: Why Virginia Tech must replace Minnesota as the last team in the field

Minnesota is no longer projected to receive an at-large bid. A better record against NCAA tournament teams gives Virginia Tech the edge.
www.espn.com
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Barring any bid-stealers, Big East upsets, etc. I wonder:
Do any of the Ivy League teams move down if they don't make the Ivy League Championship and if so how far? Outside of Harvard winning at Indiana the only claim to fame the Harvard/Princeton/Columbia trio seem to have to me is that they just beat up on each other.

Does Colorado have any shot at the NCAA Tournament since they have 2 Quad 1 wins and most of their bad losses were with a key player injured? I figured they'd give a teams from other conferences benefit of the doubt over a 13th Big Ten team that did nothing to distinguish themselves like Virginia Tech but not sure if another Big 12 team gets that too.
 

Does it help if Indiana wins some more games? Our resume really is brutal at this point but we're part of the power conferences.

We had 3 wins over the B1G tournament field and 1 made the Quarterfinals.
We lost 10 of last 14 and 8 of 10.

Hope they sneak in and get to experience it.
 

The NCAA might have better optics for a program from a distance. Maybe for recruiting.
But would the WBIT be better for the team's future? Maybe play 4 WBIT games rather than a one-and-done blowout in the NCAA. Maybe allows for Klick, Johnson and Holloway to get more minutes in a competitive environment?
 

Aesop70 said:
The NCAA might have better optics for a program from a distance. Maybe for recruiting.
But would the WBIT be better for the team's future? Maybe play 4 WBIT games rather than a one-and-done blowout in the NCAA. Maybe allows for Klick, Johnson and Holloway to get more minutes in a competitive environment?
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You play 30+ games, you want the NCAA tournament or bust.

No matter what tournament you're in you play to win, so I wouldn't expect much change in philosophy.
 

Richmond just lost at the buzzer to Saint Joseph's in the A-10 Semifinals and since Richmond is a lock to make the NCAA Tournament as an at-large team ahead of the Gophers there is now zero chance the Gophers will back there way into Last Team In of the NCAA Tournament based on whatever happens with the Ivy League teams. So hopefully they can do something in the WBIT and not flop like every time they've made the pre-WBIT WNIT since history shows that many teams have used their WNIT runs to springboard themselves to future success.
 

Star City said:
Richmond just lost at the buzzer to Saint Joseph's in the A-10 Semifinals and since Richmond is a lock to make the NCAA Tournament as an at-large team ahead of the Gophers there is now zero chance the Gophers will back there way into Last Team In of the NCAA Tournament based on whatever happens with the Ivy League teams. So hopefully they can do something in the WBIT and not flop like every time they've made the pre-WBIT WNIT since history shows that many teams have used their WNIT runs to springboard themselves to future success.
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Yes, just watched that. Gophers didn’t need any upsets in the mid-major ranks, especially the A-10. Really poor defense by Richmond for the last three seconds.
 

The Athletic latest rankings for B1G teams:

1. UCLA 2. USC 18. tOSU 24. Michigan
Dropped out: Maryland (15) MIchigan State (23)

Only 4 B1G teams left in their top 25.
 

It looks like when everything is said and done, Oregon State, who the Gophers beat 73-38 in Arizona (with Mara), will make the tournament. They beat Gonzaga in the WCC Tournament semifinal yesterday and just need to win the championship game today to get an automatic bid.

Also, as of last night, ESPN's Bracketology has the Gophers the last of the first four out. Hopefully they can stick around in the first four out in the committee's eyes. If they do, we will automatically host all WBIT games they qualify for until the semifinals and finals.
 

MaroonMagic said:
It looks like when everything is said and done, Oregon State, who the Gophers beat 73-38 in Arizona (with Mara), will make the tournament. . . .
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Do you have some inside betting knowledge re the WCC final? Should I put my money on OSU? OSU’s opponent today is 29-3, has won 13 in a row, including a 25-point victory at Oregon State. ESPN gives Portland a 64.4% chance to win. Portland is the 2 seed and OSU is the 4 seed.
 

BigTenGuy said:
Do you have some inside betting knowledge re the WCC final? Should I put my money on OSU? OSU’s opponent today is 29-3, has won 13 in a row, including a 25-point victory at Oregon State. ESPN gives Portland a 64.4% chance to win. Portland is the 2 seed and OSU is the 4 seed.
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Not particularly lol. I just knew they already beat the 1 seed yesterday. Maybe I spoke with too much certainty, but it will definitely be interesting if they pull out the win!
 

MaroonMagic said:
It looks like when everything is said and done, Oregon State, who the Gophers beat 73-38 in Arizona (with Mara), will make the tournament. They beat Gonzaga in the WCC Tournament semifinal yesterday and just need to win the championship game today to get an automatic bid.

Also, as of last night, ESPN's Bracketology has the Gophers the last of the first four out. Hopefully they can stick around in the first four out in the committee's eyes. If they do, we will automatically host all WBIT games they qualify for until the semifinals and finals.
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I have heard they had to bid to host these games.
 

blkroll said:
I have heard they had to bid to host these games.
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They need to make all the tournaments similar(yes likely different days) but similar formats so teams don't have to fly and travel all over the place. 64 to 16 one 3 day stretch then can even go 16 to 4 in another then final four another 3 day stretch. There are thousands of venues big enough to hold regionals, etc.
 


. Higher-seeded teams will have the first option to host games as they advance, unless extenuating logistical circumstances (i.e., travel, lodging, facility availability and/or WBIT championship guidelines) preclude such an opportunity.
If two unseeded teams were to advance in the bracket, the highest seed from the seed list will have the first option to host. .
Once the top 16 teams have been placed in the bracket, the remaining 16 teams will be placed in the bracket as close to their areas of natural interest as possible.
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