No. I said you won't be making many F4s without NBA talent. That's the truth. You had one "luck of the draw" type Final Four in 2000, and few NBA draft picks since - it comes as no surprise to me that you haven't been back to the F4. Until Bo starts getting NBA talent more often (maybe he's got a start with Dekker), the best you can hope for is a once-in-a-generation (for the program) luck of the draw Final Four like what George Mason and VCU had (and I put Butler's 2011 F4 in that category as well). As you know, sometimes you get unlucky by having a bad draw (having the future champs in your region would qualify for that), but Bo has been in the tournament every year and had a fairly high seed most seasons, and he still has never broken through. Now, I'm not saying the lack of NBA talent/luck of the draw F4 doesn't happen, as we've seen one in 2006 with George Mason and a couple in 2011 with Butler and VCU (I don't put Butler's 2010 run with lotto pick Gordon Hayward in the same fluke category). But for any particular program, they're once in a generation, that's why I am confident that Bo will not make more than 1 F4 without getting more NBA talent. And like it or not, F4 runs in the tournament are one of the most important barometers of a coach because it's the most important part of the season and you're comparing Bo to other coaches who have made it multiple times and won NCs, not other coaches who don't make the tournament or don't win conference titles. I think the better argument is whether Bo is overrated on the list considering Jim Calhoun is not on it - you can argue with all the negatives (missing the tourney with NBA talent, lots of transfers, underachievement with his most talented team in 2006, APR problems, etc.) but he has won 3 national titles, which is more than almost all the coaches on that list, and he's done it at a program that he had to build up himself rather than inheriting a job where the program is typically elite like UNC or Kansas.
When you make the tournament every year, and typically have a top-4 or 5 seed, your suggestion about a bad draw preventing Bo from making the F4 becomes ridiculous because you don't get a bad draw every year. 2011 is a perfect example, as UW had a great draw for a #4 seed - they had a #1 seed in Pitt that had no NBA talent (a rarity for #1 seeds), and a #2 seed in Florida that many experts felt was overseeded and had just been routed by #4 seed Kentucky in the SEC tourney. There were even some national pundits picking UW to the F4 after the brackets came out. You end up losing to a #8 seed Butler team with one second-round pick, which is the same as what Wisconsin had - if you believe the cliche about Bo that he does more with less than anyone else, any team that has similar talent should lose to him ... but it didn't happen there. I believe even with the most optimistic view that Butler was no more than the 5th or 6th-best team in that tournament. One latent benefit of having a high seed several times is you get more bites at the apple, so one bad draw won't prevent you from making a deep tourney run. Wisconsin even had a good draw this past season, with #1 seed Syracuse losing their big man Melo they were prime for being upset, and UW had beaten #2 seed OSU on the road less than a month before the tournament, but UW could not capitalize on another draw with good potential. I would say UW had a bad draw with one of Bo's best teams in 2008, with champion Kansas as their #1 seed and Davidson the opponent in the Sweet 16 (I think that Davidson team was probably the best true mid-major we've seen in the tournament in recent years, but they didn't make the F4 because they had to play one of the 2 best teams in the tournament to get there). But the bad draws and good ones even out when you make the tourney every year and have a high seed several times.
I never said anything about Bo's style of play, just that he doesn't get NBA talent for the most part - that doesn't have anything to do with pace/strengths/weaknesses/strategy, it's all about talent of the players. That's a fact, no mischaracterization. If he was getting NBA talent, he'd be pumping out a lot more NBA draft picks because Bo is a superior talent developer, right? You didn't do anything to disprove anything I said because all the teams with a single F4 run that had no NBA talent have not repeated it. Butler had a lottery pick in 2010 and another 2nd round draft pick on that 2010 team in 2011 - I think you've got to separate the 2010 and 2011 Butler teams and characterize them differently because their run in 2010 was legit but their 2011 run was more of the luck of the draw variety akin to VCU and George Mason. Maryland had future NBA players on their team - they didn't have McD's AAs, but a better judge of talent is which players are drafted by and/or make the NBA, and Maryland had at least two guys on that team who have had long NBA careers.
