Myron continues to spread his joy about Minnesota basketball

[Gopherguy0723]

Where did he originally say they played? That's pretty embarassing all things considered.

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U.S. Cellular Arena.

 

[Gopherguy0723]

Where did he originally say they played? That's pretty embarassing all things considered.

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He also said UW consistently beats Becky for in-state and Chicago guys. D-Wade was from Chicago if I recall. Moreover, Vander Blue, Wes Matthews and others are from Wisconsin. Matthews was from Madison. All anyone has to do is look at their rosters and compare. This reporter is out of control with how bad he is.

 

[Winnipegopher]

Minnesota is a sleeping giant. Big city, major media,great conference, good (lately) local talent.

I would think Marquette is a top 25 position.

Myron is pandering to the two fan bases who read him. Simple as that.

 

[Bad Gopher]

I think we can all now safely disregard anything you have to say going forward. Thanks for the clarification.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: With Gopher fans like this, who needs enemies?

 

[die hard gopher]

He also said UW consistently beats Becky for in-state and Chicago guys. D-Wade was from Chicago if I recall. Moreover, Vander Blue, Wes Matthews and others are from Wisconsin. Matthews was from Madison. All anyone has to do is look at their rosters and compare. This reporter is out of control with how bad he is.

yes but did Wisconsin want them as well? (I don't actually know, just asking)

 

[bemidjigopher]

This is Myron's best work. What he has said about Minnesota and TT is right on. You keep saying that Richard didn't have time last year so he didn't bring anybody. This year, you say the same thing. For 2015, what will you say? Minnesota kids don't dream of playing here. Howmany kids from the state are on the roster?

I don't like Myron's writting style but this was a good work.

Myron is that you?

 

[Dr.Don]

Myron is at best a 2% caliber journalist... 2% fact that is, 98% b.s.

 

[Minnesconsin fan]

yes but did Wisconsin want them as well? (I don't actually know, just asking)

I don't know that Wisconsin wanted D-Wade out of high school, but I don't think many people did. He took a red-shirt year as freshman.
Wes Matthews they wanted.
Vander Blue committed to the Badgers early but then re-opened his recruitment before signing day. Rumor has it that Bo Ryan told him no more tattoos and that he would have to go to class and do his own work. He chose Marquette instead.
Luke Fischer might have been top 100, he chose Indiana, but has now transferred to Marquette.

 

[EG#9]

I wouldn't have as much of an issue with this piece as a I do it it was "jobs that are not as good as you think", but when Myron calls all of these jobs "bad" and gives "honorable mentions" to much worse jobs like Oregon State, DePaul, Texas Tech, and Mississippi Valley State...the implication is these are the worst jobs in the country. Myron is also extremely inconsistent in what makes for a "bad" job, which basically means he picked a few schools that he has a built in bias against for whatever reason and made them fit his shifting criteria.

UNLV: UNLV is the premier job in the Mountain West Conference. What other school in that conference has a national brand? San Diego State has had a lot of success under Steve Fisher, but that's been the exception to the rule. Myron suggests that the coach has to worry about his mostly underage players gambling in the casinos? Good luck with that, Gopher players would have an easier time playing cards at Mystic Lake (which wouldn't be easy either). What does Dave Rice's salary have to do with quality of the job? Does the fact that he just recently turned down much more money from South Florida make the article? Wouldn't Rice turning down South Florida (and more money), put USF on this list and not UNLV?

Marquette: I believe this school just made the tourney eight years in a row before missing it this year. They spend a ton of money on basketball and , without a football team, it is the only game in town. The idea that kids in the Milwaukee area would rather go to UW than Marquette seems unfounded as well with Duane Wilson and Deonte Burton choosing Marquette in 2013. I went back as far as 2008 and couldn't find a single Milwaukee kid that committed to the Badgers. Competition for Chicago area recruits? Join the club. Most schools recruit Chicago hard and, in the modern era, there is big competition for kids from anywhere...very few secrets and kids are more and more willing to leave their home area.

Minnesota: Gophers weren't serious players for ANY of the Big 3. This is just factually incorrect as many people thought Reid Travis was announcing for Minnesota. Myron either knew this and deliberately mislead his audience at ESPN.com or puts next to no effort in to doing his job. We miss out on kids according to Myron because of a "legacy littered by scandals" despite the fact that nobody outside of Gopher fans even remembers something that was news in 1999. UConn just had a tourney ban, Indiana had a more recent "scandal" than Minnesota and UNC's term papers are also more recent news. When the casual fan thinks "scandal ridden" programs they point to Kentucky, UNLV, and Michigan as the issues at those schools were much more relevant nationally. Myron also states that kids don't grow up wanting to be Gophers like Michigan kids want to play for Michigan/MSU or North Carolina kids want to play for Duke/UNC....that's certainly true, but 3 out of 4 of those programs have been national title contenders for decades and the fourth (Michigan) has just got back on the national scene in a big way. Minnesota, with the notable exception of the Big 3, has historically done a very solid job of keeping the top kids home. Even if it were true that Minnesota loses more kids than other state schools (it's not), why are the schools whose states don't even produce talent on this list? Clearly Nebraska and Iowa are worse jobs than Minnesota as they are secondary sports at each school and neither state produces even 1/2 the talent Minnesota does. It may not always have been pretty (Humphries, Rickert), but the end result has been big time national recruits playing for the Gophers at a respectable rate. The lack of a practice facility is a real issue, and the Gophers deserve bad press for it, but this isn't a "worst facilities" list.

Getting VERY tired of the usual suspects showing up to post whenever something comes up that serves to portray Tubby Smith as something of a martyr. I wonder if these same posters still visit Kentucky's message boards?

 

[Cayman]

yes but did Wisconsin want them as well? (I don't actually know, just asking)

Vander Blue was a 5 star and was actually committed to Wisconsin at one point, but I heard somewhere that he decommitted at least partially because Wisconsin fans were talking crap about him on message boards, which seems odd both in that a teams fans would bad mouth a top flight in state recruit that committed to their team, and that it would cause a kid to change his college decision.

 

[BarnBoy]

Minnesota is a sleeping giant. Big city, major media,great conference, good (lately) local talent.

I would think Marquette is a top 25 position.

Myron is pandering to the two fan bases who read him. Simple as that.

If you're talking about pandering to the "we'll never be any good, Minnesota-nice masochists", then yes. He's certainly not "gratifying or indulging" any hard-core fans.

 

[GophersOnTheRise]

Vander Blue was a 5 star and was actually committed to Wisconsin at one point, but I heard somewhere that he decommitted at least partially because Wisconsin fans were talking crap about him on message boards, which seems odd both in that a teams fans would bad mouth a top flight in state recruit that committed to their team, and that it would cause a kid to change his college decision.

There were very strong rumors that he would decommit from Wisconsin long before the message board thing happened. Pretty sure he just used that as an excuse to leave without being blamed.

 

[OSUfan]

I agree with the idea that putting UNLV on the list is a bad look as well. According to one list I just looked up, they are in the top-5 in all-time win percentage in NCAA Division 1 basketball. They still draw in top recruits under Rice, are most always a respectable club, one of the best programs in their league, and make the tourney fairly often. I don't agree with putting UNLV on the list. Marquette is another that doesn't make a lot of sense, just seems like Myron is going back to the well of what he knows and running with it.

 

[Dr.Don]

I agree with the idea that putting UNLV on the list is a bad look as well. According to one list I just looked up, they are in the top-5 in all-time win percentage in NCAA Division 1 basketball. They still draw in top recruits under Rice, are most always a respectable club, one of the best programs in their league, and make the tourney fairly often. I don't agree with putting UNLV on the list. Marquette is another that doesn't make a lot of sense, just seems like Myron is going back to the well of what he knows and running with it.

And it's not a very deep well.

 

[leftyslefty]

Not to plug other sites.....but the Daily Gopher did a good job of burying Myron and his latest haphazardly put together piece.

 

[tikited]

I think we can all now safely disregard anything you have to say going forward. Thanks for the clarification.

Did you really ever take anything he wrote seriously before?

 

[MadtownGopher]

He also said UW consistently beats Becky for in-state and Chicago guys. D-Wade was from Chicago if I recall. Moreover, Vander Blue, Wes Matthews and others are from Wisconsin. Matthews was from Madison. All anyone has to do is look at their rosters and compare. This reporter is out of control with how bad he is.

Wes Matthews and Vander Blue both went to Madison Memorial. Same with Jeronne Maymon who went to Marquette for a year before transferring to Tennessee. Pretty much all of the top black kids in the state go to Marquette and all of the top white kids go to UW. If Myron really wanted to write an interesting and thought provoking piece, he could examine that situation.

 

[SelectionSunday]

Not to plug other sites.....but the Daily Gopher did a good job of burying Myron and his latest haphazardly put together piece.

Thanks Left. Excellent piece by TDG.

 

[MRJ]

My biggest surprise is that anybody takes what Myron writes seriously. His abysmal track record when it comes to predictions speaks for itself doesn't it? He's no more of an "expert" than the average rube walking down the street. Taking that into account, I can't get too worked up about what he writes about Minnesota or any other program.

Are there issues with the program? Of course, which is the same for every program in the country. In other words, he needed to fill a quota and this was the easiest and least painful way to do it. Nothing here is really worth the time of day.

 

[bleedsmaroonandgold]

Anyone can frame things in a way to make them sound bad. Myron can say that our stubborn fans won't let us get rid of our old arena. I can say that our loyal fans are endeared to our historic arena.

 

[short ornery norwegian]

In today's media, negativity sells. Negativity generates hits and clicks on the website. Myron is the virtual embodiment of today's media.

 

[920/414 Gopher]

Wes Matthews and Vander Blue both went to Madison Memorial. Same with Jeronne Maymon who went to Marquette for a year before transferring to Tennessee. Pretty much all of the top black kids in the state go to Marquette and all of the top white kids go to UW. If Myron really wanted to write an interesting and thought provoking piece, he could examine that situation.

Please don't give him any ideas! An article like that might require fact-based arguments.

 

[SelectionSunday]

BTN's Tom Dienhart weighs in

http://btn.com/2014/05/28/scroll-through-wednesdays-10-big-ten-headlines/?cmp=user+shared+twitter

 

[WanderingGopher]

Not to plug other sites.....but the Daily Gopher did a good job of burying Myron and his latest haphazardly put together piece.

I agree. Instead of linking to Myron's sh*tty article or Amelia's tepid response, Dienhart and others should be linking to TDG article or this thread.

 

[SelectionSunday]

Power 6 programs: what makes a bad job?

The simplest way to define what a "bad job" is is by looking at recent NCAA Tournament appearances (read: what they get done on the court). I'll define recent as since 2000, which covers the last 15 college basketball seasons. The following Power 6 programs have appeared in the same number (4) or have less NCAA appearances than Minnesota over those 15 seasons.

1. Baylor (4) – 08, 10, 12, 14
2. Clemson (4) – 08, 09, 10, 11 (on Myron's list)
3. Colorado (4) – 03, 12, 13, 14
4. Florida State (4) – 09, 10, 11, 12 (on Myron's list)
5. Georgia (4) – 01, 02, 08, 11
6. Iowa (4) – 01, 05, 06, 14
7. Miami-Florida (4) – 00, 02, 08, 13
8. Texas Tech (4) – 02, 04, 05, 07 (on Myron's list)
9. Virginia (4) – 01, 07, 12, 14
10. Arizona State (3) – 03, 09, 14
11. Ole Miss (3) – 01, 02, 13
12. Providence (3) – 01, 04, 14
13. Saint John’s (3) – 00, 02, 11
14. Seton Hall (3) – 00, 04, 06
15. Auburn (2) – 00, 03
16. DePaul (2) – 00, 04 (on Myron's list)
17. Penn State (2) – 01, 11
18. Washington State (2) – 07, 08
19. Nebraska (1) -- 14
20. South Carolina (1) – 04
21. Virginia Tech (1) -- 07
22. Northwestern (0) (on Myron's list)
23. Oregon State (0) (on Myron's list)
24. Rutgers (0) (on Myron's list)

Marquette and Boston College, both on Myron's list, have appeared in 10 and 7 NCAA tournaments, respectively. I'll give Myron credit for one thing. It appears he at least took the time to see which Power 6 programs haven't done anything in forever (or seemingly forever).

Look, I'm not saying Gopher fans should be pleased with 4 NCAA tourney appearances in the last 15 seasons, but any "bad jobs" list that excludes the likes of Ole Miss, Seton Hall, Penn State, Washington State, South Carolina, and Virginia Tech (just to name a few) loses all credibility.

 

[cncmin]

My biggest surprise is that anybody takes what Myron writes seriously. His abysmal track record when it comes to predictions speaks for itself doesn't it? He's no more of an "expert" than the average rube walking down the street. Taking that into account, I can't get too worked up about what he writes about Minnesota or any other program.

Are there issues with the program? Of course, which is the same for every program in the country. In other words, he needed to fill a quota and this was the easiest and least painful way to do it. Nothing here is really worth the time of day.

Myron was total garbage back when he was in town, and he hasn't improved one bit since he left. That he got employed in either position makes little sense; he's a talentless rube good at only one thing - stirring up trouble for little or no reason.

And we wonder why it seems the country is going in the wrong direction...here is a great example. A talentless fool not only gets a prestigious columnist job in one of the nation's biggest markets; after he does a terrible job at it, instead of getting fired, he actually gets hired into a better position, one at the largest sports media source in the nation (world?). That alone deserves a capital WTF. That he continues to intentionally provoke the fanbase of his former employer seemingly unchecked by his new employer is actually pretty childish and disgusting. But that's what we've come to - media gets paid to make up stories and create stories (even if full of error), not to report them.

 

[MinneStoa]

Myron was total garbage back when he was in town, and he hasn't improved one bit since he left. That he got employed in either position makes little sense; he's a talentless rube good at only one thing - stirring up trouble for little or no reason.

And we wonder why it seems the country is going in the wrong direction...here is a great example. A talentless fool not only gets a prestigious columnist job in one of the nation's biggest markets; after he does a terrible job at it, instead of getting fired, he actually gets hired into a better position, one at the largest sports media source in the nation (world?). That alone deserves a capital WTF. That he continues to intentionally provoke the fanbase of his former employer seemingly unchecked by his new employer is actually pretty childish and disgusting. But that's what we've come to - media gets paid to make up stories and create stories (even if full of error), not to report them.

We do?

 

[Maximus]

I can say that our loyal fans are endeared to our historic arena.

I wish recruits were.

The Star Tribune unveiled its All-Metro First Team today and in it it has a Q&A where they asked each of the five guys the same questions. One of them simply asked "Target Center or Williams Arena?"

Tyus Jones: "Target Center. It's always nice to play where the big-timers play."

Isaiah Zierden: "Target Center, because I don't like the raised floor at Williams Arena."

Sanjay Lumpkin: "Target Center because I'm comfortable playing there and have really grown up there."

Siyani Chambers: "Target Center because I think it is the best atmosphere to play in."

Joey King: "Target Center. It's a big and bright court."

 

[HOOP DREAMS]

I wish recruits were.

The Star Tribune unveiled its All-Metro First Team today and in it it has a Q&A where they asked each of the five guys the same questions. One of them simply asked "Target Center or Williams Arena?"

Tyus Jones: "Target Center. It's always nice to play where the big-timers play."

Isaiah Zierden: "Target Center, because I don't like the raised floor at Williams Arena."

Sanjay Lumpkin: "Target Center because I'm comfortable playing there and have really grown up there."

Siyani Chambers: "Target Center because I think it is the best atmosphere to play in."

Joey King: "Target Center. It's a big and bright court."

Considering the champioinship games are there it makes a difference.

Funny you have a quote from a current gopher, three that didn't have offers and some PG that is going to play in a small 'classic' gym.

 

[The-Real-Truth]

We do?

Maybe he/she means people of certain background in key positions???????