Roland Brooks
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Thank you!I have a different theory we were outplayed and out-coached
Thank you!I have a different theory we were outplayed and out-coached
The personal foul in the 4th quarter on the late hit out if bounds (in addition to being just a completely bone head play) left a very problematic vapor trail. That was a three and out for the defense with Purdue punting from deep in their own end. Game was still tied at that point and nothing positive happened after that boneheaded play.More likely scenario:
Offensive line and receivers read too many articles about Gophers being favorites to win the west. Then they couldn’t block as effectively or catch balls thrown into their bread basket. Dropped first down dropped touch down that became an interception! Unable to make holes in line because it was slightly harder.
Coaches get too cute and go for it with slow developing Qb run instead of hammering forward in a quick hitter on 4th and 1!
Get rid of those boneheaded moves and who knows what the score would have been. The first down drop ended a drive and let them score first. The dropped td would have seriously changed the game dynamics.
Can’t blame the defense even if they gave up the long run at the end.
Execution on offense failed to allowGophers to live up to their ranking.
They may have also employed the Princeton Offense, and that’s not Good.Purdue looked like it was playing the old 4-4-3 defense.
Great takeMore likely scenario:
Offensive line and receivers read too many articles about Gophers being favorites to win the west. Then they couldn’t block as effectively or catch balls thrown into their bread basket. Dropped first down dropped touch down that became an interception! Unable to make holes in line because it was slightly harder.
Coaches get too cute and go for it with slow developing Qb run instead of hammering forward in a quick hitter on 4th and 1!
Get rid of those boneheaded moves and who knows what the score would have been. The first down drop ended a drive and let them score first. The dropped td would have seriously changed the game dynamics.
Can’t blame the defense even if they gave up the long run at the end.
Execution on offense failed to allowGophers to live up to their ranking.
Bingo!I have a different theory we were outplayed and out-coached
You may be right, but I didn't see any backdoor cuts.They may have also employed the Princeton Offense, and that’s not Good.
What I think the team does friday night? I'm flattered you are so curious - it's great you have an inquisitive mind!Curious what you think the team does on Friday nights at the team hotel with meetings and a team meal. Think a bunch of dudes just got hammered in the hotel? They don’t just sit in the dorms or at their apartments/houses. This isn’t high school
This.The team stays at a hotel the night before home games to avoid this very scenario.
Go Gophers!!
I think your timing is off with that play. It happened right before half time and consequently it extended the Boilermakers possession and didn't allow us a chance to do anything once we got the ball back before the half.The personal foul in the 4th quarter on the late hit out if bounds (in addition to being just a completely bone head play) left a very problematic vapor trail. That was a three and out for the defense with Purdue punting from deep in their own end. Game was still tied at that point and nothing positive happened after that boneheaded play.
Lots of good comments in this thread, but this is the one that resonated with me the most. I'm guessing Minnesota finishes with a better record than PU, but the gap in talent isn't huge. Minnesota played poorly on O, caught a couple bad breaks, and probably regret a few coaching decisions both in terms of gameplan and calls on Saturday. Lots to learn, but this wasn't BG -- it was a close loss to a B1G team that's been right around MN in the standings the past few years. I'm as disappointed as anyone (and was super frustrated all weekend), but I'm still hopeful/confident this can be a special season.Every team has down games. Sometimes there's enough of a talent gap to overcome it, like Georgia almost losing to Mizzou, or Bama almost losing to a pedestrian Texas squad. It happened in 2019 when the Gophers could have lost to any of their non-P5 foes, but didn't because there was just enough of an edge.
Minnesota doesn't have enough of a gap over Purdue to:
a. be missing their RB1 and WR1
b. give away 10 easy points on a dropped TD and short FG
c. turn the ball over 3 times
d. have a call go against them that cost 4 more points
e. come out visibly flat
...and still win the game.
it was a close loss to a B1G team that's been right around MN in the standings the past few years.
Interesting you equate three opening plays where Purdue defense played better than our offense as being out coached.Outcoached from the start.
We got the ball first... Run for a loss, run for a small gain, 3rd down incomplete, punt. (Seriously, this is homecoming, and the game is really important because of the exposure we have been getting, but we come out passive)
First defensive series... They dink and dunk, we miss 5 or 6 tackles, it was obvious we didn't plan for what the scripted on the first series. They score. Then seems the whole team started getting deflated.
Defense ends up playing great for most of the rest of the game, we claw our way back and tie it.
Then Fleck starts milking the clock... like we were in the lead. One series I remember specifically, we got a nice 15 yard completion and then the next two plays were run, run, then incomplete on 3rd and long and punt. It's like the coaches had no sense of urgency at all. Almost a cocky vibe like... "They can't stop us!" even though we couldn't run the ball for shit.
Then finally our defense breaks... Then the sense of urgency finally pop into Fleck's head... but now Purdue is ready for the passes. Mistakes ensue. Game Over.
Defense kept us in the game.Outcoached from the start.
We got the ball first... Run for a loss, run for a small gain, 3rd down incomplete, punt. (Seriously, this is homecoming, and the game is really important because of the exposure we have been getting, but we come out passive)
First defensive series... They dink and dunk, we miss 5 or 6 tackles, it was obvious we didn't plan for what the scripted on the first series. They score. Then seems the whole team started getting deflated.
Defense ends up playing great for most of the rest of the game, we claw our way back and tie it.
Then Fleck starts milking the clock... like we were in the lead. One series I remember specifically, we got a nice 15 yard completion and then the next two plays were run, run, then incomplete on 3rd and long and punt. It's like the coaches had no sense of urgency at all. Almost a cocky vibe like... "They can't stop us!" even though we couldn't run the ball for shit.
Then finally our defense breaks... Then the sense of urgency finally pop into Fleck's head... but now Purdue is ready for the passes. Mistakes ensue. Game Over.
Correct.Hmmm... both had 4th down and 1 attempts from our own 29 that failed (I think both in the 1st quarter...)
In the Ohio St game though they were down 10-0. Totally understood that one. Down 3 scores would have been lights out vs the Buckeyes.Correct.
And we had a 4th and 1 attempt vs tOSU from our 39 in game 1 last year as well. Mo ripped it for 56 yds.
Incorrect.Correct.
And we had a 4th and 1 attempt vs tOSU from our 39 in game 1 last year as well. Mo ripped it for 56 yds.
It's funny how you think I equate being outcoached as each play working or not working.Interesting you equate three opening plays where Purdue defense played better than our offense as being out coached.
Or when we missed a lot of tackles on their opening drive you think we were also out coached because the plays were scripted and our coaches didn't have the script? Wonder how we had anyone close enough to miss a tackle when we were fooled so badly on where plays were going.
Outplayed does not automatically translate to out coached.
Compare this opening offensive series to the one against Sparty.Outcoached from the start.
We got the ball first... Run for a loss, run for a small gain, 3rd down incomplete, punt. (Seriously, this is homecoming, and the game is really important because of the exposure we have been getting, but we come out passive)
First defensive series... They dink and dunk, we miss 5 or 6 tackles, it was obvious we didn't plan for what the scripted on the first series. They score. Then seems the whole team started getting deflated.
Defense ends up playing great for most of the rest of the game, we claw our way back and tie it.
Then Fleck starts milking the clock... like we were in the lead. One series I remember specifically, we got a nice 15 yard completion and then the next two plays were run, run, then incomplete on 3rd and long and punt. It's like the coaches had no sense of urgency at all. Almost a cocky vibe like... "They can't stop us!" even though we couldn't run the ball for shit.
Then finally our defense breaks... Then the sense of urgency finally pop into Fleck's head... but now Purdue is ready for the passes. Mistakes ensue. Game Over.
Hmmm... both had 4th down and 1 attempts from our own 29 that failed (I think both
I agree that boneheaded plays often leave a vapor trail (nice image!) that has a deleterious effect on successive plays and on player morale. I believe that costly, boneheaded coaching decisions, such as going for it on 4th down on your own 29 yard line, can have the a similar deleterious effect. Costly misplays and bad decisions like this aren't just shucked off as if they didn't happen; their miasma lingers and can affect the team for several plays to come. Self-inflicted wounds are a great way to cement a loss. Purdue beat us on the scoreboard, but much of the beating we suffered was self-inflicted.The personal foul in the 4th quarter on the late hit out if bounds (in addition to being just a completely bone head play) left a very problematic vapor trail. That was a three and out for the defense with Purdue punting from deep in their own end. Game was still tied at that point and nothing positive happened after that boneheaded play.