Multiple media outlets list Mark Coyle as a candidate to replace Mitch Barnhart who is retiring as Kentucky AD

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mngg11 said:
Comparing a small non-profit to an institutional athletics department which possesses what is essentially a minor league pro football team is like comparing apples to oranges. One prints money (both internally and through external revenue sharing sources), the other's survival is completely dependent on establishing and maintaining relationships. One provides a service (assumedly), the other is entertainment. They're in entirely different environs. Their needs and expectations are totally different. It's also probably why people aren't rushing to donate money.

The reality is, whether Coyle actually sucks or he's successfully achieving the goals the U regency set for him (not one of us know a thing and this entire thread is chock full of speculation), he's listed as a candidate at a big time school with a big time hoops program. Unless that's just bait thrown out by his agent to generate an extension, because everything is a conspiracy theory nowadays🤷

I don't have a problem with Coyle. I also hate the presumption that some rich guy needs his balls tickled to donate money to the football program and people are upset that our ball tickler isn't proficient enough at ball tickling.
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Fundraising is significantly more nuanced that stroking an ego. You have plenty of people with an ego, but sharing options for making significant gifts includes more than writing a check. For example, do you have appreciated stock or might you make a gift through your estate? Minnesota, like every college or university, employs individuals seeking support.
 

caliGopher said:
Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda.........This is the result of ineffectual leadership in the Athletic Department, the University Administration, the Regents, and the State Legislature over decades.

Look at the last three ADs....

Maturi, who seemed committed to promoting the women's rowing team while withholding resources needed to compete in the programs that pay for all the other programs (Men's and Women's). No one has ever convinced me he wasn't a plant to keep Wisconsin ahead of the Gophers in sports (Tim Brewster, anyone?). Ineffectual in just about every way you can be, EXCEPT his communication with fans was stellar (even if it was at the expense of doing his job).

So we kinda got serious about trying to change the funding situation and went after a guy known for being a fundraiser and promoter of programs. In that pursuit, we ended up getting that, as well as accomplished Sexual Harasser, and evidence that the Admin didn't even do the minimum level of background checks. Thanks, MegaTongue.

Now we have an incompetent twit who doesn't connect with donors, didn't have the balls to make difficult decisions, poured gasoline on internal fires because of his lack of balls, and is so ineffectual in his communication PJ is in the same position Kill was, having to cover for the AD's glaring shortcomings (Coyle is by no means an outlier in incompentence as an AD at Minnesota), although PJ is better at it than Kill was.

The only hesitation in wanting him gone is that the Admin is consistently bad at hiring ADs. Tom Moe was the best hire since Paul Giel, but he was a short-term fix hired to do a job, which he did extremely well. There are a few people out there with ties to the U who would be good hires for the job here, but most know the Admin too well to seriously consider it, I fear.
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This is ....retarded
 

mngg11 said:
Comparing a small non-profit to an institutional athletics department which possesses what is essentially a minor league pro football team is like comparing apples to oranges. One prints money (both internally and through external revenue sharing sources), the other's survival is completely dependent on establishing and maintaining relationships. One provides a service (assumedly), the other is entertainment. They're in entirely different environs. Their needs and expectations are totally different. It's also probably why people aren't rushing to donate money.

The reality is, whether Coyle actually sucks or he's successfully achieving the goals the U regency set for him (not one of us know a thing and this entire thread is chock full of speculation), he's listed as a candidate at a big time school with a big time hoops program. Unless that's just bait thrown out by his agent to generate an extension, because everything is a conspiracy theory nowadays🤷

I don't have a problem with Coyle. I also hate the presumption that some rich guy needs his balls tickled to donate money to the football program and people are upset that our ball tickler isn't proficient enough at ball tickling.
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How dare you imply I'm not a ball tickler!

More seriously, average donor value is the primary challenge for any athletic department. There are many people who are passionate about Gopher athletics; there are markedly fewer people who also have the capacity to make a 7+ figure gift on an annual basis. Those that can make a gift of that size likely have other passions they support whether that's the arts, the environment, education, etc. Those individuals also have impressive networks and serve on the boards of non-profits, meaning they get invited to every event in town and may have their own fundraising goal for another non-profit. They are the type of people accustomed to every room they enter revolving around them.

The reality is that stewarding major gifts takes a lot of time, is filled with competition, and frequently requires stroking the ego of the donor. You can lament that fact, but it doesn't make it any less true.
 

mngg11 said:
As has been commented on here already, we've had supposedly good or great fundraisers who have come here and haven't gotten anything done. I think the problem isn't the people being hired, it's either the university leadership or we don't have any big time donors who love the football program.

If I had a shit ton of money I wouldn't care who ran the AD, I love Gopher football so much I'd dump a few million directly into the program with specific instructions on how the money could be used. I can't be the only person who feels that way, so where are these people with actual money? Coyle or Teague or Maturi or Nanne should mean nothing to them. Maybe they don't exist?

If we're trying to get money from people who are so tight that you need a person whose primary skill is social manipulation to draw a penny from them, we have much bigger issues than who runs the AD.
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Another well below average take.
 




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